Platform 11's Mid-West Meeting - Irish Railway Users Lobby, Next Saturday in Limerick

sligoliner

Platform 11’s Mid-West Meeting – Irish Railway Users Lobby, Next Saturday in Limerick

Tired of late, cancelled or non-existent trains?

Ever wanted to take a train from Sligo to Galway to Limerick to Cork without having to go all the way back to Dublin or some other far-flung station hours and many miles away in just to change trains? It is possible, but CIE/IE don’t want you to find out…


Sick of 19th century rail services/timetables in the 21st century? It’s never going to change as CIE/IE much advertised new Inter-City carriages were ordered just to replace the ‘clapped-out’ bunch they currently have with no scope/plans for creating extra or late night services. New trains, same worthless timetable.

Did you know that every year Irish Rail run hundreds of passenger trains empty across Ireland just to get them back to their starting points - wasting thousands of gallons of diesel fuel while ignoring thousands of potential customers who might want to use these late trains?

Did you know that CIE chairman John Lynch did not apply for EU rail freight grants nor tax breaks and then complained that moving goods by train in Ireland was losing money!!! Ireland has the highest percentage of heavy lorries on our roads of any nation in the EU and what’s Irish Rail’s answer to this? - they buy more lorries to market and increase their 1,000,000 tons of road freight. And they do all this while promoting the social, economic and environmental benefits of transporting goods by rail on their own website. Incredible, bizarre, surreal - but 100% true.

Did you know that Dublin already has the basis of a Metro and an airport rail service that can be up and running within 18-26 months and won’t cost billions to the taxpayer? Again, CIE/IE don’t want you to find out…

Fed up with CIE/IE spin, excuses and wasteful PR and pointless/insulting TV adverts?

Want to reclaim the railway network that you own through your taxes?

find out more at:

Platform 11’s Mid-West Meeting
Glentworth Hotel
Glentworth St.
Limerick

Saturday, March 8th 2pm-6pm

presentations • speakers • facts, not PR spin
EVERYBODY WELCOME - www.platform11.org

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Victor

Aren't you being a bit locosexual here?

Originally posted by sligoliner
Ever wanted to take a train from Sligo to Galway to Limerick to Cork without having to go all the way back to Dublin or some other far-flung station hours and many miles away in just to change trains? It is possible, but CIE/IE don’t want you to find out…

(a) there is inadequate demand for this route.(b) get a bus.

Originally posted by sligoliner
Did you know that Dublin already has the basis of a Metro and an airport rail service that can be up and running within 18-26 months and won’t cost billions to the taxpayer? Again, CIE/IE don’t want you to find out…

Yes, it's Called DART, Arrow and Luas. The Arrow routes need substantial work to upgrade them and it would take more than "18-26 months".

Originally posted by sligoliner
Did you know that every year Irish Rail run hundreds of passenger trains empty across Ireland just to get them back to their starting points - wasting thousands of gallons of diesel fuel while ignoring thousands of potential customers who might want to use these late trains?

Which routes? (other than suburban).

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Transporting this over to our brand new shiny toaster

jd

Originally posted by Victor
Yes, it's Called DART, Arrow and Luas. The Arrow routes need substantial work to upgrade them and it would take more than "18-26 months".

Did you check the website..
http://www.platform11.org/airrail.html

http://www.platform11.org/dconnector.html


http://groups.msn.com/IrishRailwayNews/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=4911&LastModified=4675413307131396816

jd

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Victor

Originally posted by jd
Did you check the website..
http://www.platform11.org/airrail.html

Hang on they are advocating 24km of new railway over a 40km route to serve a (as the crow flies) 12km journey? Does anyone see any sense in this? The only people it really serves are those in Dunboyne, Dunshaughlin and Ashbourne, everyone else's journey would be longer.

jd

Originally posted by Victor
Hang on they are advocating 24km of new railway over a 40km route to serve a (as the crow flies) 12km journey? Does anyone see any sense in this? The only people it really serves are those in Dunboyne, Dunshaughlin and Ashbourne, everyone else's journey would be longer.

It's just one suggestion, I think.
I think the point is that it facilitates through running of trains from most parts of Ireland to Dublin Airport.

dmeehan

Originally posted by jd
It's just one suggestion, I think.
I think the point is that it facilitates through running of trains from most parts of Ireland to Dublin Airport.

if this is the case then they are going to need a big station at the airport

there will obviously have to be a high frequency service to the city center and if there is going to be intercity services from the airport they will need more than 2 or 3 platforms

Victor

Originally posted by dmeehan
there will obviously have to be a high frequency service to the city center and if there is going to be intercity services from the airport they will need more than 2 or 3 platforms

Dusseldorf Airport, probably about the same throughput as Dublin gets away with only one platform, but then it only operates as a semi-express (very few stops from the Hauptbahnhof). Three platforms / tracks allow quite high levels of service (centre one used for semi-express trains), but if a connection was made to the Belfast line north of Swords, 4 platforms / tracks would be preferable.

dmeehan

is dusseldorf airport only an S-Bahn connection (equiv. of DART)?

dmeehan

just checked on www.bahn.de it has ICE etc, the lot

Victor

Originally posted by dmeehan
is dusseldorf airport only an S-Bahn connection (equiv. of DART)?

Thats all I saw (only used it twice), could it be that ICE trains connect to the Hauptbanhhof and you then have to take a connecting train?