The big war protest on Saturday

the happy hobo

Anyone going to the big war protest thing on saturday.

Go on! It'll be fun and a chance to show your opposition to war and injustice and the trade barrier and exploitation of 3rd world people and nu-Imperialism and globalisation.

TeenStar

I'll probably go and show my support

eddiesheridan

where is it?

metalish

yeah what time etc.....

Tyrrial

when someone posts the times and stuff i'll be there!


DAMN THE MAN*!!!!!!



*(if the man also happens to be bush.. first damn him, then feed him to something like a snake)

Shorty

National Demonstration
FEB 15th INTERNATIONAL DAY OF ACTION AGAINST WAR ON IRAQ.

http://irishantiwar.org

On February 15th the largest ever mobilisation against war will take place with simultaneous mass demonstrations in capital cities across the globe to protest against US plans to attack Iraq. The protests are aimed at stopping the current US war drive on Iraq. A war on Iraq will certainly lead to thousands of civilian deaths and cause chaos across the Middle East.

The call for the day of action comes from the European Social Forum held in Florence last November where 60,000 delegates from Europe and across the world met to discuss global injustice and the war and one million people took part in a protest against war on Iraq.

The International Day of Action has now been taken up by anti war activists and organisations across the globe. Mass protests have been organised in every major European capital and a number of US and Canadian cities.

The call has now also been endorsed by a conference of anti war activists that took place in Cairo in December. This important gathering brought together delegates from across the Middle East, with representatives from the leading anti war organisations in Europe. The conference included Egyptian parliamentary representatives, prominent individuals such as Dennis Halliday and Hans Von Sponeck, both former UN officials in Iraq, and former Algerian President Ahmed Ben Bella who was elected President of a new International Coalition Against US Aggression on Iraq.

Finally, the call for Feb 15th is almost certain to be endorsed by the World Social Forum meeting in Porto Allegre next month, which will add the involvement of many Latin American countries to the day of action.

Coalitions of all anti war groups and organisations are now being formed in countries across the globe to ensure an enormous mobilisation on Feb 15th. Ten million are expected to march in Europe alone on that date

Here in Ireland, the Irish Anti War Movement and the Peace and Neutrality Alliance have joined forces to organise solidarity with the International Day of Action. This will take the form of a national demonstration in the capital at 2pm on Sat Feb 15th from Parnell Square finishing with a city centre rally and followed by a free concert.

We call on all those opposed to the US war drive on Iraq to make their vioce heard and join the protest on Feb 15th in Dublin.

We are seeking people and groups who will agree to sponsor the National Demonstration against war on Iraq on Saturday 15th of February 2003 on the following basis;
1.That we oppose the military assault on Iraq by the USA and it's allies.
2. That we oppose the anti-Islamic racism arising out of the current war drive.
3. We also call for a halt on attacks on civil liberties and the right to protest under the guise of the "war on terrorism".
4. We seek justice for the Palestinian people.
5. We seek to develop peaceful alternatives to war to address the reasons for injustice and conflict in the world.
6. We seek an end to the use of Irish airports and airspace by the US military and oppose any Irish involvement in a war on Iraq.

To add your name/organisation to the list of sponsors Tel:087-6329511 or e-mail info@irishantiwar.org

Sponsors for Feb 15th International Day of Action in Ireland include:

Individuals:
Des Geraghty(General President, SIPTU), Pat Rabitte TD (Leader of Labour Party), Liz Mc Manus TD, Prionsias De Rossa MEP, Michael D Higgins TD, Mike Allen, (General Secretary, Labour Party), Eamonn Ryan TD, Ciaran Cuffe TD, Trevor Sargent TD (Leader of Green Party), John Gormley TD, Paul Gogarty TD, Joe Higgins TD, Eamonn Mc Cann, (Journalist) Denis Keane (President CPSU) Hazel O’ Conor (Singer), Marnie Holborrow (President SIPTU Education branch), Roger Cole (Chair, Peace and Neutrality Alliance) Mary Van Lieshout (US Citizens in Ireland for Alternatives to War), Colin Coulter (Lecturer), Richard Boyd Barrett, Irish Anti War Movement, Conor Kostick, (Chairperson, Irish Writers Union), Gavin Kostick (Playwright), Nora Geraghty (Globalise Resistance), Gerry Adams MP, Martin McGuinness MP, Michelle Gildernew MP, Pat Doherty MP, Caoimhin O'Caolain TD, Aengus O'Snodaigh TD, Arthur Morgan TD, Martin Ferris TD & Sean Crowe TD.

Organisations:
The Labour Party, The Green Party, The Socialist Party, The Socialist Workers Party, Irish Socialist Network, US Citizens in Ireland for Alternatives to War, NGO Peace Alliance, Globalise Resistance, Sinn Fein.


For general information about the Irish Anti-War Movement contact one of the following:

info@irishantiwar.org
Aoife Ní Fhearghail 087 7955013
Richard Boyd Barrett 087 6329511
Colin Coulter 01 8746012
Sandeep Vaidya 087 2225742



Obviously I'm going, I'll be the guy with purple hair involved with Food Not Bombs.

www.foodnotbombs.org

soma

An amazing 306 cities aorund the world have marches on the 15th.

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=725

If you're a borderline case about going.. please go. It's not just "socialists and treehuggers" :-) It's honest people from all walks of life who see this "war" for what it truly is.

johnnynoleg

don't bother going - full of leftie pinkos, saddam needs to be stopped, europe is only concerned with endless moral debate - give it a rest and stop being hypocrites.

the happy hobo

This is about more than a war (which is unjustified, will lead to deaths of thousands if not millions of Iraquis and U.S. soldiers, destruction of priceless sites of historical importance etc., etc.) Do you think if Bush attacks Iraq, succeeds, and no one stands up to him after he has practically colonised it, that he will think twice before launching another such war in the future? Bush compares Sadamm to Hitler but Bush is far more like Hitler - he's invading another country out of paranoia, for natural resources and a hatred of 'people who aren't our kind of people'. At the very least he could respect the nearest thing this world has to a government and get a second resolution passed in the U.N. If Bush invades Iraq it will drive more Muslims into terrorist groups like Al-Quaeida and some country that actually has a nuclear weapons program (like N. Korea) will gladly sell thm arms.

So There

metalish

Yeah i'll be there to show my support . i'm goin to be wearin a Rage against The machine hoody don't know why i put that in there but we are raging against war.

sanvean

happy hobo: would you support war against iraq if it's authorised by the UN?

the happy hobo

I suppose it came out like that didn't it.

I don't support this war no matter what any government/president/dictator says but if Bush goes off with his little lapdog Tony Blair in tow to wage war on Iraq without the backing of the U.N. then the whole world goes to hell. If the Bush feels he doesn't have any need for any other authority (except his version of God, who doesn't resemble in any way the loving, forgiving Christ preached about) then where will he stop and what can we do to stop him?

o sleep

personally, i don't think the UN mandate really matters, as the US will probably, in some way or another bully the UN into accepting their course of action. I do find it odd, however (and this applies to me as much as anyone else here) that nobody was protesting (as far as i know, anyway) over the continual bombing of Iraq for the past 12 years.

Tyrrial

i'm going to be keeping my head down but i'm sure as hell going, all i know is that i'd rather see sadam come out of this then bush....

bush is far weirder.

the66electric

I'm there.

**** Dubya and his militant, xenophobic, greedy, myopic destructive influence on global politics.

**** him.

Wook

Originally posted by johnnynoleg
don't bother going - full of leftie pinkos, saddam needs to be stopped, europe is only concerned with endless moral debate - give it a rest and stop being hypocrites.

First this post is not about your view on the war, but an information post. To write your views go to the many other topics about Iraq. Second, R you one of those people that always asks 'why does this happen to me' ? Look at the big oncoming truck and shrug it off , thinking somebody else will stop him ?
Not everybody against this war is a 'lefty' believe me , I am not.

dubh

I feel like the luckiest american in the world, I'm here in Ireland and not in the stifiling atmosphere of the states, though I live in seattle when I'm there which is a VERY progressive and anti-bush town, but the rest of washington state is quite conservative and historically has supported every military action that the us have been involved in . But now there are elderly grannies and retired military people galore involved in protesting us military adventurism against Iraq... it probably comes as no suprise that the 'mainstream' media didn't/doesn't talk about the thousands of anti-war protesters on the streets of seattle and many many other us cities every day for the last couple months. Because of the huge military presence and integration into the economy of washington state (Boeing's military divisions, the nuclear sub bases at bangor and bremerton, the navy shipyards in tacoma, the ft. lewis army base close to olympia etc), it somehow makes the protests of SO MANY 'regular' people(ie, not tattooed pierced freaks like me) seem more hopeful. I'd venture that many more americans than ever see the threat of war against Iraq as what it really is--an absurd attempt by a kleptocratic ruling class to boost their wealth and power over the world's resources. It bears remembering that gw bush signed execution death warrants for well over 100 people during his tenure as govenor of texas, and yet couldn't be bothered/felt no moral obligation to witness a single execution. I'd argue that it should be the law of the land that if a govenor has the moral certainty that a given person should die for their crime, then the person signing that death warrant should be the one to flip the switch/start the flow of chemicals. I know this is meant to be an informational thread and not a discussion of views, but I couldn't help it....

Miss-Misery

Just a thought: does anyone else find the sinn fein involvement in the anti-war march a little ironic?

PiE

Originally posted by Tyrrial
*(if the man also happens to be bush.. first damn him, then feed him to something like a snake)

Don't think snakes eat their own.

Won't be going, but that doesn't mean I don't support the anti-war crap.

Bit like being a Christian and not going to mass really.

o sleep

Originally posted by Miss-Misery
Just a thought: does anyone else find the sinn fein involvement in the anti-war march a little ironic?

i don't think so, although it would probably involve getting into their thought process for a while. i would think that their opposition to war is due to their socialist background (which would lead itself to oppose any war as a means to an end). for example, one of the first things Lenin did when he took over Russia was to take her out of WWI. however, if a country is attacked (as with the Soviet Union in WWII) it is, of course, acceptable to defend oneself. their interpretation of the north (which is, i presume, what you're referring to in the irony etc) is that they are defending the people of the north against the oppresion of a foreign army, ie the british, and so it is just and righteous for them to blow up people and soldiers, but oppose a war by an imperialist power such as america against iraq.
and i'm just guessing here, but i'm thinking they'd support a campaign against Saddam if it was organised by the iraqis in some way.

but hey. i don't support sinn fein, so i could be wrong.

ferdi

i used to get up tight about war and social injustice etc but now i cant be bothered much anymore. in terms of ireland, ALL the political parties are exactly the same, bar socialists but non of the oulde ones, fat cats, yuppies/trendies or farmers will ever vote for them so they will never get into power. therefore ireland is politically screwed for ever, i'm not particularly red anymore but the likes of FF, FG, PD and even GP,LP and SF just depress me. all i can do is walk around being punk at heart. i mite make an appearance on sat.

punk out

ferdi