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IRELAND OFFLINE - MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!!!

  • 08-07-2001 7:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭


    Sorry about shouting but I think we are entitled to shout about this smile.gif

    On 29th August, we are holding a seminar in Dublin. It will be opened by Mary O'Rourke and we hope to have papers presented by ESAT, the ODTR and Eircom, followed by a
    panel discussion with questions from the floor.

    MO'R, ESAT and the ODTR have already agreed to support this - we will be contacting Eircom this week.

    This is a *major* achievement for IrelandOffline and we will be seeking
    everyone's support.

    In view of this seminar coming up and a lot of other issues to be discussed,we will be having our Public Meeting on Thursday 19th July. Venue is yet to be finalised but it will be central Dublin, kicking off at 7:00 p.m. and aiming to finish about 9:30 p.m.

    We hope to see as many people as possible at this meeting.

    If you want to be kept informed on the details of these events, please join our mailing list if you have not already done so, as this is where most of the communications will be done.

    You can do so on the Contact Us page at www.irelandoffline.com

    Martin Harran
    IrelandOffline



    [This message has been edited by o_donnel_abu (edited 08-07-2001).]


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Well done Martin. I'll start airing out the Eircon t-shirt straight away... smile.gif

    adam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    sounds good, shame i cant be there, its on a wednesday, some of us have to work frown.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gladiator:
    sounds good, shame i cant be there, its on a wednesday, some of us have to work frown.gif</font>

    We're aiming for 4:00 to 7:30 so that people can maybe get out of work a bit early.

    Guys'n'gals this could be the making or breaking of IrelandOffline, we want at least 200 people there.

    All you people who said "anything i can do to help...", now you can, just be there smile.gif

    Martin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    i dont know feicing shame, depends on were it is and how hard it is to get to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    well done AGAIN everybody,
    I cant attend as I will be on holidays.
    but I will be there in spirit.

    Let them have it Martin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Great news, will be there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Great news folks. I'm also working but I intend asking to-morrow for a couple of days off and I intend to be there. I think that I'm already on the mailing list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Congrats on getting this organised with all the parties involved.

    If its on late I hope to come along and if not, best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Ditto
    Ditto

    80p.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm a 3-hour drive from Dublin, but I'll do my best to be there. smile.gif


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Just to clarify, when I said we need at least 200 there, I was referring to the seminar.

    The public meeting on 19th July is also important but if you can only attend one event, make it the seminar smile.gif

    Martin

    p.s. Thx for all the comments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'd just like to say that i'll be at that meeting and seminar and anything else like, it will take me about an hour and a half to get to Dublin and then god knows after that with traffic!...i think its a F***ING DISGRACE tho if EVERYONE on this board doesn't attend...its like everything else these days...your happy to complain but won't actually get off yer ass and do anything, i mean C'MON like!...ok i understand your in a job or the likes but this is plenty of notice to get time off an hour or 2 won't kill you and if you live in Dublin you really have no excuse!

    The right way, the wrong way and MY way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,308 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    eeeeeexxcellent smile.gif

    In spirit is all well and good, but in body is better - we need bums on seats - ... as Martin said, more so for the seminar, but as Martin also said - those of you who pledged your support - here's how you can make good on that... BE there!... and make IrelandOffline's voice as damn loud as possible!

    Naturally I'll be at both - both as an interested individual committed to helping out the cause - and as a committee member.

    Having work is, of course, a perfectly fair excuse- but I'd ask all those who are *genuinely* interested in our goals and our efforts to try to get off early- you've got plenty of notice!!!

    Bard
    First motorbike in the bible ???? ---- a Triumph --- 'Yea verily Moses struck down the ammmanites and all the land heard the roar of his triumph !!!'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I have to agree with you Farls, both of these are very important and a large turnout would be great. But as said we need a good turnout at the seminar at the very least; otherwise it may look like "Anne Corcoran" was right afterall.

    Also I'm in Sligo, and unless something serious turns up I intend to be at both the meeting and the seminar. As I've said on numerous occasions my FULL support is with the committee, and having done so well in such a short time, a major turnout would add weight to their arguments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    hehe...just a question anyone going thru or from cavan to it?...if so do you have a car load?...lol

    Farls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I will be at both these events.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'll certainly get my bum into the seminar, but sadly won't be able to make it for the public meeting with the ODTR -- I'll be in Germany on the 19th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Urban Weigl:
    I'll certainly get my bum into the seminar, but sadly won't be able to make it for the public meeting with the ODTR -- I'll be in Germany on the 19th.</font>

    Just to clarify:

    19 July - public meeting of IOFFL group--ODTR will not be there (agenda coming soon).

    29 August - seminar with ODTR, Esat, Mary O'Rourke, probably Eircom, and IOFFL

    John


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Martin,

    What about other OLO's? Esat ain't the only one you know... smile.gif

    adam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I doubt I'll be there for the public meeting, but I'll definatly be there for the seminar, I'll have to get off work for it although !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dahamsta:
    Martin,

    What about other OLO's? Esat ain't the only one you know... smile.gif

    adam
    </font>

    We're thinking about UTVInternet but don't want to have too many speakers there.

    Any others you were thinking about ?

    Martin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    DATES AND TIMES OF MEETINGS

    There seems to be a little confusion on this:

    Public Meeting
    Thur 19th July
    Start 7:00 p.m.
    Finish 9:30 p.m.
    Venue will be announced within next few days, will be central Dublin

    Seminar
    Wed 29th August
    Start 4:00 p.m.
    Finish 7:30 p.m.
    Venue to be agreed but will be Dublin


    Martin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by o_donnel_abu:
    We're thinking about UTVInternet but don't want to have too many speakers there.

    Any others you were thinking about ?

    Martin

    </font>
    ntl showed a major interest in llu at the start


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm not saying i want them speaking at the meeting, but how comes AOL haven't had any interaction here at all?...from what i've heard both them and NTL run the most decent ISP's in the UK perhaps they might like a piece of the action here?

    just a thought

    Farls

    The right way, the wrong way and MY way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,308 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Farls:
    I'm not saying i want them speaking at the meeting, but how comes AOL haven't had any interaction here at all?...from what i've heard both them and NTL run the most decent ISP's in the UK perhaps they might like a piece of the action here?

    just a thought

    Farls

    </font>

    AOL did expand their ISP operation to Ireland (just Dublin I think) a year or two ago... no idea if it's still operating here though...

    Bard
    First motorbike in the bible ???? ---- a Triumph --- 'Yea verily Moses struck down the ammmanites and all the land heard the roar of his triumph !!!'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    NTL are a must, given the discretion they have been granted by the ODTR. If anyone needs to answer questions (apart from Eircom), NTL are the bunch. I'd look into it Martin.

    80p.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Sorry Martin, busy day. Anyway, what I meant by that was the other ISP's, particularly the smaller ones. I haven't really thought about it very carefully, but I imagine the smaller ISP's would benefit quite a lot from LLU. But just off the top of my head I can think of a large number of possibilities:

    Cable operators: NTL, Chorus, That Crowd In Waterford (who are *currently* running cable Internet services! smile.gif

    Companies not currently operating in Ireland: Tiscali, AOL, etc. (Point out to them the relative cost of sending a rep, and the big advantage to them of attending an ostensibly open and transparent meeting like this)

    Wireless providers or wannabe providers

    SME and corporate representative groups: Enterprise Ireland, local Enterprise Boards, etc.

    Teleworker representative groups

    Consumer representative groups

    That sounds a lot bigger than it really is. If you get in touch - and I'll help any way I can - with as many organisations as you can, and explain to them just how important this meeting is to them, I guarantee they'll send a representative. And you don't have to put them all on the platform either - just ask them to come along and watch, or throw a question from the floor.

    Most of this stuff is of course destined to be discussed at the first meeting in July, and I'll be there and I'll bring them up, but now is a good time to start firing invitations and "politcal material" together. More importantly, now is an *excellent* time to stick your toe in the water and see who's actually interested. Send out invitations and see who responds. RSVP smile.gif

    adam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dahamsta:
    That sounds a lot bigger than it really is. If you get in touch - and I'll help any way I can - with as many organisations as you can, and explain to them just how important this meeting is to them, I guarantee they'll send a representative. And you don't have to put them all on the platform either - just ask them to come along and watch, or throw a question from the floor.</font>
    Great stuff, Adam, like to put a list together (with contact details/email if possible) and send it to me?

    We are currently thinking about NTL and have alreday contacted SFA and IBEC/TIF asking for support.

    Martin

    Notes:
    SFA is Small Firms Association
    TIF is Telecommunications and Internet Federation, a sectoral group within IBEC



    [This message has been edited by o_donnel_abu (edited 09-07-2001).]


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    I'll make a few phone calls over the next few days if I get a chance Martin. Any chance you could forward me a list of who've you've contacted already so we don't cross paths?

    adam


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    AOL have a POP in Dublin for registered users (as they have in nearly every city worldwide)..

    Dublin operation is to service AOLUK smile.gif

    [This message has been edited by lphchild (edited 11-07-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    well ive said feic it, if i have to take a half day ill do it,
    ill be there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thats the spirit Gladiator!

    Farls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hey Guys,

    could we team up for the seminar on the 29th so that not eveybody is bringing in her/his own car?
    Maybe petrol costs could be split as well.

    I am looking for/offering a lift from Athlone....

    Looking forward to your replies,

    disConnected

    [This message has been edited by disConnected (edited 13-07-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I was just wondering if you could rope in some TV program to film it something like 20/20 or sumit i think alot of people who own PCs and go online still arent aware of all the bull thats going on in the telco industry.It would be a good way of raising alot more than 200 people for the seminar.Only problem is id say Eircom wouldnt allow it, to be publicly exsposed like that would be more than even they could handle.

    Stone

    [This message has been edited by Stonemason (edited 14-07-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'd be more than happy to film the proceedings, if allowed that is, whatever the committee says that is, will i bring my camera with me?

    Farls


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,308 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    I'm sure Elana, as PR Officer, will give TV3 and RTÉ's current affairs departments a shout about it... from my point of view I'd say there's no harm in bringing your camera, Farls... will what it records be of broadcast quality, in case the TV news types don't show?

    Bard
    I've got a plan... and it's as HOT... AS MY PANTS!!!" - Lord Flashheart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,308 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
    Only problem is id say Eircom wouldnt allow it
    </font>

    It's our event, not Eircom's. They don't get to "allow" or "disallow" anything... I believe they intend to participate and they should know full well that common sense would dictate that there would have to be some sort of media coverage at it...

    Bard
    I've got a plan... and it's as HOT... AS MY PANTS!!!" - Lord Flashheart.

    [This message has been edited by Bard (edited 14-07-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Have to check and see if the camera is being used or not that day cuz normally we have 2 cameras that are very good video quality, its the family business so to speak. But seemingly one of them is a bit "sick", so i'll have to find out whats being done that day otherwise, i'll not know until monday wheater it will be available or not.

    If its available i'll bring it with me.

    Farls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
    I was just wondering if you could rope in some TV program to film it something like 20/20 (edited 14-07-2001).]</font>
    I know the producer of 20/20, I can have a word with him if someone mails me contact details for ioffl.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    goto http://www.irelandoffline.com and all the details are there, if not then email one of the committee members

    this is the kind of thing needed like, if everyone used their contacts/skills to help this thing along.

    Farls


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Bard i reckon the Eirom rep will go down with something nasty the day of the meeting smile.gif.

    Stone biggrin.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bard:
    It's our event, not Eircom's. They don't get to "allow" or "disallow" anything... I believe they intend to participate and they should know full well that common sense would dictate that there would have to be some sort of media coverage at it...

    </font>

    While I agree that it's very much IOffL's event, I have to say I don't believe for two seconds that the eircom rep will allow themselves be filmed. Absolutely they can't dictate what you do at your event, but they can decide not to participate. We can't kidnap them and make them answer the questions... hmmm, now there's a thought... smile.gif

    I think that if you get 20/20 or some crowd like that then you have to inform eircom in advance that you're bringing them. Then if they (eircom) refuse to participate you may even get a story out of the fact that they backed out once they knew the TV people would be there. If you just have your own camera there, I'd say you need to be prepared to switch it off if they threaten to walk out.

    Have you invited journalists from the national papers to this? (Is that an obvious question? Sorry if it is.)

    It's never too late to have a happy childhood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I will be there to represent an area that netiher IrelandOffline or the ISPs do.
    Namely the tech ISP engineer.
    You know, that person that you all blame for managments decisions. That person that only gets noticed when something goes wrong, not when a whole system is upgraded so seemlessly that the customer isn't aware. That person that has to deal with script kiddies and idiots who think they understand how the whole show is put together simply because they have managed to install a network interface on their Win2K machine automagically.

    I will be there to represent the silent tech...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,774 ✭✭✭jd


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bongo:

    I will be there to represent the silent tech...
    </font>
    Not too silent in the pub C are ye
    jd



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Anyone have a location yet for the seminar on the 29th August yet ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lemming:
    Anyone have a location yet for the seminar on the 29th August yet ?</font>

    Should be settled in the next few days.

    John M


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    When the middle of August rolls round contact me and I'll stick up a permo-banner on all Boards.ie boards for the event.

    Just be sure you want a load of angry gamers there smile.gif

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DeVore:
    When the middle of August rolls round contact me and I'll stick up a permo-banner on all Boards.ie boards for the event.

    Just be sure you want a load of angry gamers there smile.gif

    DeV.
    </font>

    how will we tell the difference


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    my car's knackered (like my connection) but i want to go o the seminar!!!
    anyone passing by Clonmel?
    let me know...ok


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