Available and Future Broadband Availability in ireland ....

LegacyUser

Hiya ppl,

I'm new here, so I'm just saying 'ello !

By the way, I've accumulated some info over the last few weeks about broadband services in ireland (mainly dublin). This is what I've found:

http://register.esatfusion.ie/adsl/index.html

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ADSL to be offered soon by Esat. (although I was talking to an Eircom representitive last week and he said it would be another year untill Eircom would offer ADSL, and as you know, Eircom own the phone lines )

http://www.web-sat.com/

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Wireless Internet access via satellite. YOu get upto 2Mb/s download speed and 64Kb/s Upload. This is to be offered in late july/august to irish customers.


Chorus

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Powernet is available in south dublin NOW, and is equilivent to a cable modem (512Kb/s Download). It is to be offerend to North Dublin in July/August (upto 20KM radius from 3RockMountain)

NTL

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Offering broadband to Tallaght and Collock. There is a Financial restructuring of the company at the moment, but will be offereing Cable modem service to high demand areas first, although it could be upto the beginning of next year until they continue upgrading

http://www.norcontel.ie/ndpcomms/

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As far as I know, the goverment is installing a High Speed Fiber Optic network over Ireland and will connect this network to the Internet BackBone for fast access. Then this national network will be open to companies (ISP's) to offer this service to customers. But it could be until mid 2002 until the installation of the network is finished, but this network is very promising, as the goverment is giving a lot of money to it, and its not "if" the network is being built, its "when" it will be finished as it is being built as we speak !!

I think thats all the info I have at the moment. Anyone else have more info ?

later,
ando

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Best country in the world

[This message has been edited by ando (edited 27-05-2001).]

LegacyUser

I asked Chorus where the service for South Dublin was since I had been told in February this....

Hi David,

Powernet will be released to the Southside of Dublin at the end of April. The have not confirmed the release date for anywhere on the Northside yet I'm afraid. With regard to any further queries on this service, can you forward any e-mails to the Chorus mailbox at: info@chorus.ie
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I got heavy with them and they came back with this on the 16th of May.....

Hi David,
Thanks for your e-mail.Unfortunately we are awaiting a release date for
Powernet in the Dublin area.We are hoping that it will be within a few
months.Sorry for any inconvenience.
Regards,
Chorus

I told them that I felt this was a joke of a reply and they replied with the following:

Hi David,
Thanks for your e-mail.The quadrant for Southside Dublin has not been opened yet.
I can appreciate where you are coming from and I know that it is hard to be patient.The quadrant has to be officially opened and it will be released through media coverage.Unfortunately we won't be notified of a release date until it is officially released.
Apologies,
Chorus.

This is a complete joke, and from what I hear about their ability to handle themselves with their TV offerings, it would appear that they are somewhat incapable.

Dave.

LegacyUser

"Web-Sat" sounds really interesting. One I'll be watching out for. Hopefully, It'll be for the internet as SKY is for TV... global, and cheap for what you're getting.
Thanks for the info.

Broadband in Ireland is dead... at least for the foreseeable future. By the time the little "Chiefs" get it together, Ireland will have been relegated to the communications "stone Age".

LegacyUser

Satellite is no good to you in the country at the mo cos it all comes back to the phoneline problem.
the Satellite at the mo is only 1 way I think so that means u still need an internet connection via phoneline to send data/upload and that's useless to u since you'll end up paying Eircoms LOVELY phone prices that send the bill sky rocketing to 100's of £££
so unless the satellite connection is 2way, it's no good to you here,yet.

LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Vorrtexx:
Satellite is no good to you in the country at the mo cos it all comes back to the phoneline problem.</font>

Why do you say this ? If your interst in mainly in downloading... ie...surfing and downloading files et al. then surely satellite is a real alternative ?

LegacyUser

Vorrtexx,
According to the "Web-Sat" brochure, it's a two way, complete with dish, "NIC", etc. The "ISP(s)" could be in any part of Europe. Here's hopin'.

What's available in this country at the mo, for sat connections, is the dumbest thing I've even heard.

There's only two options available for "Joe Public"... 56K, or "superfast ISDN". Both are way too expensive. ISDN is a joke... not to mention that it's yesterday's technology. Go figure.

Appreciate the info tho'.

LegacyUser

I'm having trouble expressing my annoyance at these answers from Chorus.

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Unfortunately we won't be notified of a release date until it is officially released.
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?!?!?!?!?!

I would send this to the MD of Chorus with a recommendation that they employ a new PR company/marketing dept.

These replies seem to demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the function of public relations which is that you represent the company not the PR company/department.

LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Vorrtexx:
Satellite is no good to you in the country at the mo cos it all comes back to the phoneline problem.
the Satellite at the mo is only 1 way I think so that means u still need an internet connection via phoneline to send data/upload and that's useless to u since you'll end up paying Eircoms LOVELY phone prices that send the bill sky rocketing to 100's of £££
so unless the satellite connection is 2way, it's no good to you here,yet.

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Hi vorrtexx,

I was emailed by Websat and they said It is a 2 way system and does not use the telephone lines at all.
Download speeds of 2Mb/s and upload of 64Kb/s are predicted ......

The only thing that is not released yet is the prices they will be charging !!!!! LOL

They said that they will be releasing their prices in June !

I hope it won't be that expensive as this form of broadband is my main hope at the moment !!

LegacyUser

by the way, Dave, thanks for that info about your incidents with chorus ...
I did'nt know about the trouble that chorus were causing !
I originally taught Powernet was already available to south dublin

also, anyone wanting ISDN from eircom, I know your all goin to kill me for saying this, but it really aint that bad !!
I work in IT and come across ISDN every day in different offices all over Dublin and I have to say, it really is pretty damn fast, but expensive although !!

LegacyUser

UTV Internet are also promising that they'll have a SNL-alike "as soon as possible".

I hope they're not waiting for some sort of interconnect deal from Eircom...

http://iiu.taint.org/pipermail/iiu/2001-April/001621.html



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LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mbf:
UTV Internet are also promising that they'll have a SNL-alike "as soon as possible".

I hope they're not waiting for some sort of interconnect deal from Eircom...

http://iiu.taint.org/pipermail/iiu/2001-April/001621.html</font>

nice 1 mbf !!
This just might be an altenative to IOL NOlimits if it is introduced soon !!

[This message has been edited by ando (edited 28-05-2001).]

LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mbf:
I hope they're not waiting for some sort of interconnect deal from Eircom...
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I would expect they are waiting for a deal from Eircom otherwise they would be making the same mistake as Esat with all the bad publicity that goes with it. They currently offer flat rate in the North but not here, for that reason.

LegacyUser

Hi Joe.

LegacyUser

Here's some info about the Chorus setup

Residential

High speed modem Installation 		IRP 150.00 inc. VAT
Monthly Rental				IRP 40.00 inc. VAT
Monthly Flat rate Download limit 	3Gb
Volume charge above limit		2p per MB


Subject to a min. twelve month contract

Option of self install or using a recommended IT install company
Payable directly to the authorised IT install company

Software Install				IRP 48.00 inc. VAT
Software/ Ethernet card Install	IRP 99.00 inc. VAT (to include a specified d-link ethernet card) 
Software/ USB to Ethernet adapter	IRP TBA

NB Above amounts are payable COD directly to authorized install partner


Business Services

High speed modem installation		IRP 299.00 exc. VAT

Single PC connection
Monthly rental				IRP 79.00 exc. VAT
Monthly Flat rate Download limit 	6Gb
Volume charge above limit		2p per MB

Network LAN connection 

Customer must have less than 20 computers on the network.

Zyxel 312 Broadband IP router		TBA
Monthly rental				IRP 150.00 exc. VAT
Flat rate download limit			10Gb
Volume charge above limit		1p per MB


Subject to a min. twelve-month contract

As you can see, I think it's a ripoff and you don't exactly get to download much (yeah 3GB may seem like alot but if you're on a fast connection u tend to get more than a 56k modem)

dahamsta

I love the way it's double the price to install in a business. Effin' chancers.

LegacyUser

Well, so far I only see Web-Sat, and UTV internet (nice one mfb), as possible alternatives to the what available today.

The "loop" should never have been sold off by the state.

(hehe... I'm sick of lag shootin')

LegacyUser

anyone know wot kinda PING u get when playing online games with the Chorus Powernet Wireless service its 512k of bandwidth but wots the lag like ??