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A word of praise?!? NO!

The Clown Man · 2003-01-31 02:13:37

Ok, I may not post much but I read most of what goes on here. My personal opinion is that the powers that be are not getting enough praise for what they are doing. In all fairness, more has happened for broadband and friaco than has happened in the last ten years. Things are moving now. I would really love to see IOFFL…

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31-01-2003 3:13am

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The Clown Man

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Originally posted by Dustaz
If not, then ComReg are really starting to impress me. In a matter of months we are seeing movement in friaco, broadband, uso matters and now this.

I know that a lot of this stuff was underway beforehand, but they really seem to be following through on this stuff and not dropping the ball.

Ok, I may not post much but I read most of what goes on here. My personal opinion is that the powers that be are not getting enough praise for what they are doing. In all fairness, more has happened for broadband and friaco than has happened in the last ten years.

Things are moving now. I would really love to see IOFFL send a word of thanks to what has been done so far. An appreciation always goes a long way. And helps raise spirit for the cause. But please, I think that a word of encouragement would do much more good than harm.

A letter to COMREG or the minister would mean a lot. We all like to be praised for what we do and a word of praise also makes us work harder. I'm sure most of us know this from the workplace but I want to recognise what has happened since december as being a huge step in the right direction. Fair played to IOFFL and the Minister and comreg and all. Soon the solution will be here.

With enough communication and enough sense, FRIACO and broadband seem to be coming to us. And although the comms in the country have been strangled for a long time, finally they are catching up. I would love to disregard the negativities for one moment to recognise how far we have come.

I'm not saying give up the fight but credit where credit is due.

Am I the only one seeing this?

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#2 31-01-2003 4:25am
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Most of the problem is as a regular of these board im sure you and most of us have heard the promises before, basically it comes down to spin overdose and until we can actually hold a product in our hands so to speak many of us will remain reserved about getting exited again.
Your point being they deserve a slap on the back and when they do produce the goods ill happily oblige and when i say goods i mean when they stop descussing with Eircon and start telling them with conviction.

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#3 31-01-2003 6:05am
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"The proof of the pudding is in the eating"
thats aspecially true of any telecoms related news here
by all means congratulate comreg (odtr 2) for making the right
noises now, noises they could have made three years ago!
the sudden display of backbone is most gratifying if belated
it's ioffl who have been poking and proding the telcos showing
up the lies and falsehoods.
it's Eircomtribunials inspired site which has presented the true facts
of the miserible results of making a public utility into a private
monopoly with no safegaurds.
congratulate comreg for FRIACO and cheaper adsl if they appear
but put them third inline not first!

wormhole

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#4 31-01-2003 8:56am
DeVore

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Too right, when they deliver more then promises I'll be the first to say well done. It *seems* to be going the right way but when I can buy the product thats when a difference has been made. Until then its just spin-doctoring...

DeV.

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#5 31-01-2003 9:57am
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It'll be interesting to see the next quarterly report.

adam

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#6 31-01-2003 10:24am
matthiku

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Praise? for what? For having a little bit more Broadband then the Greeks?
Broadband Internet Penetration in Europe
or for paying the triple amount for it as the rest of the world:
ADSL prices (And there is nothing cheaper available as of yet - only hot air and press releases)

Or for being online on average per month per citizen, a little bit more then the Brazils:
eircomtribunal charts

Again: Praise? For what?

Maybe for UTV Internet: For their courage to bring out a FRIACO-resembling product on their own risk, which I am sure, costs errcom already a fortune in lost revenue from over-prized low-quality dial-up Internet access.

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#7 31-01-2003 10:59am
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Well put Adam - as far as I can make out it is all smoke screens and mirrors....

The is NO eircom ressie offer yet and NO FRIACO yet.............. when they arrive and at the right price , I'll say "well done".

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#8 31-01-2003 11:16am
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Yes we see alot of anouncement and directives being issued and even some beatings on other issues to errcom..
but our primary objective is not a reality yet!
Effort v Results..
we have to wait and see if the dogs got teeth or if its just licking the meat!

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#9 31-01-2003 12:09pm
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I have to wonder if the comregs new found back bone is due to Isolde Goggin and her background with the Competition Authority.

Comreg seems much more interested in the needs and wants of the consumer now, as opposed to the ODTR when the focus seemed to be on the operators.

Come on, keep up the good work and lets see some results.

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#10 31-01-2003 12:24pm
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Perhaps Comreg have joined us in Phylum Vertabrae...
I know I've been living in fear of *the* legal letter since IOFFL came here hyuk hyuk!

DeV.

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#11 31-01-2003 12:30pm
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They don't deserve praise yet but when they do I'll write a letter:

Well done Comreg, except you Etain and your €157k a year salary and €70k a year pension and €200k + retirement lumpsum.

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#12 31-01-2003 12:37pm
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It is a little premature to praise Comreg.

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#13 31-01-2003 3:07pm
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I'm waiting until they've forced eircom to deliver wholesale rates based on costs for an efficient operator. Asking eircom to do something is easy, making them do it is another matter.

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#14 31-01-2003 5:01pm
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I think most people are being a bit hard on ComReg.

As i have said before, they have already done a great deal more than any of us expected them to do.

Not happy? Would you rather go back to the days when the ODTR just said "nothing we can do, at all, sorry" ? Would you rather go back to the days when ministers didnt know broadband from a hole in the ground?

Look, Ive been seeking FRIACO and broadband for close to eight years and its NEVER been CLOSE to where we are now. This could never have happened without Ireland Offline but Comreg have played thier part in bringing this situation about also and they are to be commended for that. Wait untill it all falls flat on its face before damning them.

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#15 31-01-2003 5:13pm
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Wait untill it all falls flat on its face before damning them.

Wait until it produces something tangible before congratulating them.

adam

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#16 31-01-2003 11:40pm
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what the hell have we got to thank them for?

WE ARE PAYING THEIR WAGES YET THEY HAVE SCREWED US FOR YEARS!

Its unacceptable that we have to form a pressure group to get what France, Germany etc get without that hassle

btw if Fianna Fail ever delivered on the 5mbps by 2004 or whatever the promise was I would change the habit of a lifetime and vote for them

even though that would make me feel physically sick

seriously

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#17 01-02-2003 3:11am
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Read Mucks post here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79195&highlight=On

Starting with the sentence that begins with On (highlighted in red)

Comreg trying to exclude IOFFL from lodging appeals ....

Still like to praise them ?

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#18 02-02-2003 2:38pm
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If anything the Govt, ComReg, Eircom, NTL etc should be humbly and abjectly grateful to us for pointing out what a useless, incompetent, greedy, ignorant, waste of skin they are

We are doing them a service - and not even invoicing for it!

As Al Pacino's character in Glengarry Glenross points out to his boss; "you are here to help us - not to f#ck-us-up"

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#19 03-02-2003 2:41am
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Originally posted by dahamsta
Wait untill it all falls flat on its face before damning them.

Wait until it produces something tangible before congratulating them.

adam

Honestly, did you come up with that on the spur of the moment or did it take a few minutes to think up?

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