Shared connection?

Zenith74

Can anybody tell me if there are any legal or contractual implications of sharing a DSL connection with a neighbour? Suppose I was to get a DSL line to my house and run a CAT5 connection to my neighbours house and plug it into by hub, I'd pay the bill but he would give me half the money. Is there any reason I couldn't do this, Eircon wise?

Thanks for any help

kamobe

There was another thread that mentioned this, although i couldn't be bothered looking for it

Basicaly, the terms say you cannot do it for the single 512k. But you can bend the rules a tad with the 1mb if necessary.

Zenith74

I thought there probably would be another thread on it but when I did a search I couldn't find it, anybody have the URL?
So is there really any way for Eircon to tell if you havemore then one PC going through a connection? Is having two PCs in the same house(on the same table actually) connected against their regs?

Thanks for the reply,

PiE

It's against the T&C's of Solo but there's feck all they can do about it tbh. They've no way of knowing afaik.

Son of Blam

On a side note, I'm pretty sure that running cat5 cable outside a building is against the law for environmental reasons. (I can't find a link for it right now, some guy on some college message board explained it to me one day)

You'd be better off using some wireless gear if you were going to share a connection like that.

cgarvey

Dunno where you're getting the not ok for solo, but ok for enhanced... the terms for enhanced state "solely for the Customer's own use" .. now if the customer was a business, and they have enhanced then that's fine, but sharing it with a third party is not allowed (if I interpret their conditions correctly)... the other thread is here

KdjaCL

if you live next door and the wire doesnt affect (or can be seen) anyone else ,there is no way eircom could know as they cant check it.

Stick it on the back of the house and noone will know.

If your neighbour isnt right next door then wireless is your best option.

kdjac

Ardmore

Originally posted by Zenith74
Can anybody tell me if there are any legal or contractual implications of sharing a DSL connection with a neighbour? Suppose I was to get a DSL line to my house and run a CAT5 connection to my neighbours house and plug it into by hub, I'd pay the bill but he would give me half the money. Is there any reason I couldn't do this, Eircon wise?

Thanks for any help

It's a "You can, but you may not" issue. Your contract with Eircom will forbid it, but there's no way that Eircom can tell that it's happening.

Of course, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on if your neighbour didn't pay you, and if you have to pay for going over the cap, ther'll be a lot of finger-pointing.

Chaos-Engine

Wi-Fi connection to your neighbour ... Seen as the ADSL will be in your house put a ADSL router at your end link it up to a wireless hub in your place...

Eircom can't know that you are doing this and even if they physically see that you are connected to your neighbour it is none of their business. They can't tell you that you can't network. Just that your can't share ADSL which as i said they can't detect at there end due to router technology.

note: as said above avoid the CAT5 to your neighbour as its illegal and unsafe...

Zenith74

Great thanks, that's what I wanted to know. We know our neighbours very well, there is no chance of there being a problem. They'd probably happily pay the whole rental and share it anyway, they are that kind of people [:)]...

Does anybody know more about this outdoor CAT5 business? I work for a computer company that does a lot of cabling(CAT5/6, fiber etc.) and I know we have rolls of out door CAT5 cable and have installed it out doors plenty of times. I would dig a trench the whole way across our field and lay some of this outdoor cable. Is it possibly that you can't lay std CAT5 cable outside, or you can't string it between houses?

Thanks again,

pingofdeath

Originally posted by Zenith74
Can anybody tell me if there are any legal or contractual implications of sharing a DSL connection with a neighbour? Suppose I was to get a DSL line to my house and run a CAT5 connection to my neighbours house and plug it into by hub, I'd pay the bill but he would give me half the money. Is there any reason I couldn't do this, Eircon wise?

Thanks for any help

I assume you have already purchased your bargain basement OLO license at www.comreg.ie for being a bastard new entry to the Irish ISP market? Even if you have only one customer. And you are going to have to keep a log of the websites they visit (and copies of all their e-mail exchanges) for six years just in case...

You never know. No matter how well you know them, what might their household agenda be? They may not like George W. Bush or Tony Blair. Even a simple e-bay auction bid by them for a "non kosher item" could end involve you in prolonged multi-day interrogaton next time you land at a British or US airport.

Play it safe. Don't share your broadband. And don't subscribe to cable TV - (they are logging your channel usage click by click).

Remember that data protection laws in Ireland are a joke.


pingO

quozl

so, don't take even the tiniest little risk, to help a friend get broadband? Nice attitude.

And as has been covered in lots of other threads. The enhanced one is for an organisation. Only that organisation may use it. Doesnt say anything about the organisation having to be in the same building. So set up, the 'me and my neighbour' club and get the connect for that. It's no different from a business with 20 people providing it to the 20.

Oh, and you don't need a teleco license, as you are not providing the service to the public, just to your own organisation. Does any business need a teleco license to use istream. God's sake. Dont spout off this fud.

Greg

As an aside. I would suggest telling your friend that you'll be doing some basic logging, and to keep the logs off at least what times they're online. You know them better than me, but you want something to show the guards if they come asking about child porn downloaded on your connect.

Zenith74

These neighbours are elderly, ie. 70 odd. I don't think we'd have any problems like that, they only use the internet to email and chat online with their daughter in the US. But your points are noted, thanks!