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Mammy what is pronography ?

  • 23-01-2003 12:36am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭


    Well I try and make a point that the children get their tv time and i have mine. The have had to learn that Mammy likes to listen to the news and recently my 5 year old takes this chance to have quiet time with me. He will do jigsaws or colouring in.

    Often he would ask about what is on in the news, comment on that it is sad that some one died or that he is sorry the Garda had to go catch the bold boys.

    To day he asked what was Pronography and if was a bold thing why did they have it and was it a toy that hurt children ?

    Have to say it was not a queston that i expected to have to deal with so soon in my childs life :(

    I dealt with the best i could and didnt make big deal of it he seemed happy enough with what i told him.

    But i am undecided about watching the news with him again?
    yeah he will need to know the worlds not a nice fair place but at 5 ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Drunk pirate


    What did you say to him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    That's what I was thinking as I read the thread. What are you doing letting your 5 year old kid listen/watch the news for in the first place? Would you equally let them sit in on an 15's/18's film with you just because you like being with them as you relax and it keeps them quiet for a few minutes?

    News IS pornography IMHO and letting impressionable kids view it is not on. After all they have the rest of their lives to find out how f.ucked up the world out there is. They don't need to know at 5 years old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Drunk pirate


    Well she could have said something like "It's when pictures get taken of you you don't wan't taken".

    But he/she should not be watching that crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Well i grew up in a household were the news was always on arround 6 pm. I like to watch the news and up until now it has not been problem. We have been teaching him that the T.V. is not for just cartoon or kids program when it is turned on. The T.V. is not on all hours of the day and there was a stage where if it wason it HAD to be on cartoons. So we started making a point of watchin the news so that he learned that Mam and Dad had programs to watch too and that he had to learn to respect that and behave when we were watching the news.

    We would not be neglecting him but we let him read or draw or play quiet games at that time. Most of it goes well over his head and he does not listen to the T.V. at the best of times even if cartoons are on too busy being 5. There are times when he has mentioned items off the news, ie the joyriding and the bold boys that hurt people and upset thier parents by being bold so that the garda had to go stop them.
    This is constuctive.

    I have never let either of my children watch any film that was even pg that i had not watched first we are very very carefull about what they are allowed view listen and be exposed to.

    as for how i answered it I told him that it was something some adults played with that was not good for children and those bold adults that let children get hurt were in trouble. He was happy with that response and had not asked about it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Drunk pirate


    Good response thaed. You couldn't have put it better. I'd say he'll never ask again. But overall the news is still bad, and it is better to let him play with his stuff as you say.

    He'll ask way worse questions later on, trust me!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Originally posted by Pigman II
    That's what I was thinking as I read the thread. What are you doing letting your 5 year old kid listen/watch the news for in the first place? Would you equally let them sit in on an 15's/18's film with you just because you like being with them as you relax and it keeps them quiet for a few minutes?

    News IS pornography IMHO and letting impressionable kids view it is not on. After all they have the rest of their lives to find out how f.ucked up the world out there is. They don't need to know at 5 years old.

    Are you a parent Pigman, its just that, you seem to have alot of views on what should and shouldn't be. Why shouldn't a five yr old watch the news. Don't be an idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭yossarin


    Good for you Thaed,

    Im guessing here for your case, but i have found that children are too self involved to believe that anything like on the news could ever happen them them anyway.

    Its a good way to let bits of the world passivly filter through to your child.

    I have a knee jerk reaction to "letting TV raise your children" though, but then again, I'm not a parent, so what do i know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Originally posted by Giblet
    Don't be an idiot.

    Wait a minute! Boards is a place to express opinions so If I say what 'should and shouldn't be' then thats my perogative. If I took that further and (as you claim) went round telling people that they should live their lives according to my doctorine then I'd agree that I'm out of line and that you have a point .... but I don't, and as such you're misplaced in your allegations.

    Whilst I don't agree with her actions (and I made that clear) I never categorically told Thaed that she (or anyone else) 'should' alter what they are doing to come into line with 'my way'. So I think you'll find that it's YOU that's out of line with your directly insulting comments, not I.

    Get your facts right before you go round insulting people again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by Pigman II
    What are you doing letting your 5 year old kid listen/watch the news for in the first place? .... News IS pornography IMHO and letting impressionable kids view it is not on.
    Indeed news / documentary material isn't subject to the censorship laws applied to fiction material. However, there are important lessons for children in the news, right -v- wrong, what is going on in the world and so on. BBC have a "children's news" most days. Children also need to learn that they don't own the TV and that others have the right to use it.

    Another definition of pornography for a 5 year old might be "invasive pictures taken without permission" (good enough for a 5 year old).


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