MAME Emulates Sega System32

LoGiE

Right....MAME is running System 32 games. I've given Alien3 :The gun a bash but's still a bit messed up(No backrounds). The emulation is obviously not nearly as good as modeler but it seems the emu's author R.Belmont is working a great deal with MAME Dev and won't be updating it...At least the controls will be far better through MAME.

Game lists:)
System 32
Air Rescue
Alien 3 : The Gun
Arabian Fight
Burning Rival
Dark Edge
Dragon Ball Z V.R.V.S
F1 Exhaust Note
F1 Super Lap
Gale Racer / Rad Mobile
Golden Axe II
Holosseum
J League Football / Super Visual Football
Jurassic Park
Looney Tunes - By A Hare
Rad Mobile / Gale Racer
Rad Rally
Sonic The Hedgehog
Spider Man
Super Visual Football / J League Football

Some of the above are not emulated because of encryption. But who wants to play dragonball Z games anyway.

System 32 Multi
Hard Dunk
Out Runners
Stadium Cross
Title Fight


I've played a few of the above. Sonic the hedgehog and Golden Axe II are excellent in my opinion with spider Man & Co and Arabian Fight being average side scrolling beat'em'ups
Anyone make any suggestions as to others I might track down?

bugs

Is the sonic game the beta that runs in modeller or a full version....i had a look a while back but couldn't find any info on either a released version of it or any info on any form of it (bar the beta) being dumped.

LoGiE

The version I have is the protoype dumped version.

Sega 1993
5/4/93

Sonic The Arcade Game (Prototype)
Sega System 32
Dumped 8/10/99

Hardware Specs: NEC V60 - 16 Mhz
Z80 Audio CPU

Sound: Two Yamaha YM3438s (YM2612 Compatible)
Sega PCM

SONOBJ0 BIN 1,048,576 08-10-99 11:41p SONOBJ0.BIN
SONOBJ1 BIN 1,048,576 08-10-99 11:43p SONOBJ1.BIN
SONOBJ2 BIN 1,048,576 08-10-99 11:44p SONOBJ2.BIN
SONOBJ3 BIN 1,048,576 08-10-99 11:46p SONOBJ3.BIN
SONOBJ4 BIN 1,048,576 08-10-99 11:48p SONOBJ4.BIN
SONOBJ5 BIN 1,048,576 08-10-99 11:49p SONOBJ5.BIN
SONOBJ6 BIN 1,048,576 08-10-99 11:50p SONOBJ6.BIN
SONOBJ7 BIN 1,048,576 08-10-99 11:51p SONOBJ7.BIN
SONSCL0 BIN 524,288 08-10-99 11:52p SONSCL0.BIN
SONSCL1 BIN 524,288 08-10-99 11:53p SONSCL1.BIN
SONSCL2 BIN 524,288 08-10-99 11:55p SONSCL2.BIN
SONSCL3 BIN 524,288 08-10-99 11:56p SONSCL3.BIN
SONPG0 BIN 131,072 08-10-99 11:57p SONPG0.BIN
SONPG1 BIN 131,072 08-10-99 11:57p SONPG1.BIN
SONSND0 BIN 262,144 08-11-99 12:00a SONSND0.BIN
SONSND1 BIN 1,048,576 08-11-99 12:01a SONSND1.BIN
SONSND2 BIN 1,048,576 08-11-99 12:02a SONSND2.BIN
SONSND3 BIN 1,048,576 08-11-99 12:04a SONSND3.BIN
SONPD0 BIN 262,144 08-11-99 12:05a SONPD0.BIN
SONPD1 BIN 262,144 08-11-99 12:06a SONPD1.BIN

What your looking for is Sonic the Hedgehog (rev c) which has been dumped correctly and is listed in MAME but Its has a protection meaning it crashes when you enter a coin:( . Until they figure it out your stuck with the prototype which in fairness is still very good.

bugs

Prototype only has 3 levels and modeller control support is dodgy. Anyway, that game really needs mouse support (or trackball if i had one).

Modeller unfortunetly seems to suffer the same thing all these other emulators suffer from these days, being B0rged by mame.
Modeller, zinc, viva nonno, all started out well then just disappeared as far as updates are concerned until they turn up running at a tenth of the speed in mame. pity that!

LoGiE

It will let you get most of the way through zone five. Then it won't let you add anymore continues and the levels so bloody hard your brown bread in seconds! Hit F5 in Modeler to use the mouse in Sonic.
The guy's behind Modeler have always said they would be making a MAME driver when they had emulated Sega System 32 to a high enough standard (Which they have) Then they hope they will return to solving the issues with Sega model 1 3d chips.

Zinc is still alive and a lot of the 3d games supported almost perfectly. As far as I know sound issues are a problem with Soul Edge and then Tekken2 doesn't run correctly at all. The coder is busy with a work project according to R.Belmont. but will be back after that.

As for viva nonno I don't know what the story is must have a look at that. The emulation was again good if you had a high spec PC.
I dislike MAME myself but it seems If you have a good PC the game driver will be twicked a few times and the game will run fairly well. I'm sure given time the likes of killer Instinct etc will fall into line and run on the usual MAME spec (p3-1ghz)

KdjaCL

Must get meself a few of those games.

Shame on you lot MAME is awesome runs perfectly on my pc
When you have trouble running 5/6 year old arcade games on your pc i thinnk it means upgrade time heheheh


kdjac

LoGiE

*Goes to fetch club to wipe smug smile of KdjaC 's face;)

All of these games would run perfectly under a different emulator.
I give you the emulation of CPS2 as an example of MAME's crapness

KdjaCL

Yah but the age old argument MAME tries to do the lot and thats its downfall.
Eventually they will get it right but on a meaty PC.

Come on 1 emu to rule them all ,if it worked flawlessy i would pay for it. // may happen one day if they got the ROM licences.


kdjac

LoGiE

Originally posted by KdjaC

Come on 1 emu to rule them all ,if it worked flawlessy i would pay for it. // may happen one day if they got the ROM licences.


kdjac

Like microsoft windows yeah? Thankfully they won't get half the rom licences. I guess I'll just say it again... It doesn't have to be this way. If they stopped adding clones etc and worked on fixing the sound and other problems for just a short while it could the best emulator ever created. Quality NOT quantity damn it!

KdjaCL

Sound is cack on most games ,go to Bray on a busy day and record the sounds of millions of kids screaming in one of the arcades and play it on a stereo everytime you play MAME

kdjac

LoGiE

The problem is not the sound quality it's the fact MAME requires the same amount of processor time for sound as it does the graphics.

bugs

Yup, sound quality, much alike everything in mame, works just fine and is near perfect. But its the processing time it takes up.
They really don't even need to change this, what they need to do is allow gfx card support. It is in there, but we're talking ancient ATI cards is the limit to which MAME understands. Add support for a geforce type chipset and i think that would easily knock out the extra power needed to run say mortal kombat 3 and the like.

Whats annoying is, that to do this is pretty easy, its almost like they don't want to do it!

bugs

Just had a quick look at the wip over at mame.net......
I think it speaks for itself:

http://www.mame.net/status.html