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  • 25-10-2000 12:53pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭


    I was looking at Noel's site to see if he wrote crap about being at the PS2 launch party last night, and I saw this:
    http://www.game-ireland.com/features/angryarchive/hatingpcgamers.html

    This Week Hating: PC Gamers!
    3l33t haxor. Gib. LAN. Frag. LPB. Does any of this mean anything to you? Well, if it conjures up anything but utter contempt, get the hell out of this website you goddamn nerds. That’s right folks: this week it’s the turn of the pompous, geeky, never-had-a-girlfriend nerds of the videogames industry: PC gamers.

    Now, let me clear things up: I’m not out to hate all PC gamers. Just most of you. If you enjoy a game of Minesweeper or Solitaire between Word documents, I’ve got no beef with you. But if you talk in 3l33t hacker talk, refuse to play games on consoles and prefer to be known by your Quake alias, DeathMongerWizard 317, then you, to put it bluntly, deserve to die.

    The PC gamer is the festering boil on the foot of the games industry for innumerable reasons. We want you to hate these people, so, in a David Attenborough-style, here is what to look for when hunting the PC gamer.

    Firstly, they’re nerds. Pure and unadulterated. And they aren’t even the good kind of nerd. They are the sort of people who talk in hacker talk (the saddest language known to exist), use terms like ROLFMAO, and say LOL in public instead of laughing. Every second word they type is interspersed with a smile.gif

    If it were just this nerdy undertones, we could handle it. After all, there are many sad *******s who do all of the above and wouldn’t touch Quake with a 40-foot barge pole. No, the real problem with PC gamers come when one, foolishly, attempts to enter into a gaming conversation with them.

    In truth, they aren’t even gamers. The only games that matter to them are Quake, Unreal Tournament and maybe, just maybe, StarCraft. All other applicants can go to hell. Especially if they are on a console -- the PC gamer regards a console as a ‘toy’, unlike their PIII, 700 Mhz, Voodoo 4, Super-Dooper fragging machine, which Daddy probably bought for them.

    The PC gamer refuses to accept that any console game could be good. GoldenEye? Pssh, it’s ‘too slow’ and runs at only 20 FPS, and you have to use the N64’s ‘crap’ controller to play it. Mario 64? Hah! You can’t kill anything in it -- ergo, it’s crap. Tekken? Only two players -- so 1990.

    And, of course, if one attempts to show them the light and smack some sense into their stupid, Quake-loving hides, they only respond with ROLFMAO and sad, desperate, nerdy insults.

    The PC gamer typically also likes to play pirated games, because God forbid he’d pay for them. He also trades in warez, ROMs and vast quantities of porn. In his spare time, he enjoys creating viruses so that he can screw up other peoples computers and show how smart he thinks he is. Nerds.

    I appeal to everyone, young and old, male and female, to hate the PC gamer. These pathetic losers are the real reason games are still seen as a geeky pastime. Detest these sad *******s who only leave their computer to watch the latest episode of Babylon 5. Hate the sort of person who spends hundreds of pounds updating his PC just so he can be a Low Ping ******* and run Quake that little bit faster.

    You people are the filth of the games industry, and everyone -- absolutely everyone -- else hates you. Please, for all our sakes, grab some real rocket launchers and play a real-life game of Quake amongst yourselves. That’s something we can all enjoy.

    So, basically they are calling you 'the pompous, geeky, never-had-a-girlfriend nerds of the videogames industry: PC gamers. '

    And this is coming from a site run by a 15 year old......

    Jamie


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Some gurl prolly turned him down because he's a no lifer console freak.

    Daddy didn't buy my computer tongue.gif lets see you buy one when your CV says "Can beat Mario Brothers 6" on it.

    That has to be satire, no one is that stupid? smile.gif



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭Monty - the one and only


    OMG!!!!! I hope hes not serious, there goes the last bit of respect any one ever had for him....ever.


    and my daddy didnt buy my pc either!!!!

    oh and noel heres a shocker for you i loved goldeneye, it is one of the best games that ive played.... tongue.gif

    [This message has been edited by Monty - the one and only (edited 25-10-2000).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,265 ✭✭✭MiCr0


    i think he's right,
    if i ever meet one one of those nerds
    i'll slap him so hard face will go to /dev/null

    /me goes off to edit his config, to nuke the author


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    I'm reading some of the other stories and they seem incorrect.

    Funcom is not an Oslo business they are in fact American. They were at one time from Oslo but they moved thier whole main offices to USA (a long time ago).

    £20,000 a year for a game developer in Ireland. Fuk now I know why they are all emigrating.



    [This message has been edited by Hobbes (edited 25-10-2000).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Nitro-G


    Noel didn't write this stuff, someone else did for him. I think its one of the few original parts of his site.

    No wonder with him printing shyte like this that he is not the most liked person in the industry in Ireland.

    The PS2 launch last night was brilliant, have a look at the models which I took the photos of > smile.gif More to come on the site soon

    models.jpg

    Jamie


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Nitro-G


    Just a quick note in case anyone *cough* Noel *cough* uses any images from the party, that I have copyright on them. anyone else who wants further info, just ask.

    Jamie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Asuka


    I would sincerely like to know how anyone could be so stupid. And bitter. He has a serious problem.

    Only one other thing...
    use terms like ROLFMAO,
    I think he'll find that it's 'ROFLMAO' actually smile.gif

    A


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    ROFL - nerd and proud. What's it to ya Mark O' Driscoll (if that is your reals name!!!).

    I like consoles, but the simple fact that you can't tweak/ha><0r wink.gif them means I'm not serious about them.

    I think a lot of PC playa's feel this way about them. Goldeneye - good game. I find it difficult to get used to the controls after so long on mouse and keys.

    Neol - if you're erading, get your firned Mar to make a post here and defend himself or confirm that he was indeed taking the urine.



    All the best,
    kharn_sig.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Nitro-G


    Not that it matters much, I forgot the disclaimer

    *Please Note* 'You Wouldn't Like Me When I'm Angry' is written by a journalist totally independent of the Game-Ireland team. We would therefore like to add that the opinions expressed within are not necessarily shared by the GI team.

    Hmm, shouldn't this left be considering most of the people who are visiting his website THROUGH A DAMN PC might just be PC gamers?

    1 word - idiot

    Jamie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Nitro-G


    I hate to ask this, but I must

    I know I got a hammering about my site a while ago, but apart from more content (I dont have the time to be honest, damn LC), any comments both good, bad, and downright evil about Irish Player?

    Jamie


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Well my friend "Laughed out Loud" when he read it on his N64. tongue.gif

    Incidently, if daddy bought the PC wouldn't he also buy the console? $300 is a lot of money for a PS2 considering you can get a high spec Atholon for $500 (with DVD).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭Blitzkrieger


    I thought they shut down due to lack of interest? confused.gif

    Bad-mouthing the only people who are likely to read the site is probably not a good idea.

    Quick poll - How many people have a console and like both PC Gaming and Console gaming?

    O - and what's a VooDoo 4? rolleyes.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Hecate


    well I have both (pc and dreamcast) so according to NB's logic I must be some sort of missing link, sub-human not-quite-nerd. With bad teeth.

    Seriously though, I have the console because theres some stuff that a pc just cant do or provide (fighting games mostly).

    hang on a sec, I noticed they're affiliated with Daily Radar, explains a lot smile.gif

    [This message has been edited by Hecate (edited 26-10-2000).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Nitro-G


    I have a PC, Dreamcast, N64, PSX, soon to be PS2 (remember, I run a games website, heh free games <G> )

    Oh, remember GI used to be associated with Total Video Games or something? A couple of weeks ago, there was a big fuss on Noel's boards, because he got caught nicking stuff from their archives, apparantly there was some agreement that noone knew about. When people started to mention that his reviews seemed uncanningly like those out of CVG magazine, plus that Irish people do not call Autumn 'Fall' in newspieces, he promptly shut down the thread, and I think another one or three popped up, and suddenly Noel kicked everyone off, and made it so that all registrations had to go through him!

    What a disenchanted little boy. He actually sent me an email a while back stating

    (I had told him he has no chance in the industry in Ireland)

    Snip
    Fact is, I may have dug myself a hole but I
    don't care about that either.
    Journalism is just a hobby for me and I have absolutely no plans to follow
    it as a career.

    I didn't reply that Journalism is doing your own work...

    Also, after he had accused me of getting a free Dreamcast off Sega for giving 'better quality reviews' (if they had, I'd have saved myself £200), and I had laughed and informed him that practically everyone I have spoken to has asked me if I was associated with his 'crowd', he said

    Snip
    I don't really give a ****e about games publishers hating me and GI. That's the difference between our sites, you're out to please people, I'm out to **** them off.


    Pity really, with a different editor GI would actually be a decent site, if actually people wrote their own stuff for the majority of it.

    At least with mine, what little is there is my own work or my humble staff of mates who get work done about as quickly as an asmatic ant carrying some heavy shopping (Black Adder, series 4 <G> )

    Oh dear. Anyway, I'm going to get in touch with Dev about PoG, a much better site imo.

    Sorry about the waffle, I'll shut up now

    Jamie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Nitro-G


    The funny thing is, that although Noel didn't write the article, if anything is to be believed about his staff, they are all either pc gamers (ie geeks who dont get out much), console heads (god knows what), or just like Noel, a mix. And if I am also correct in believing anything, he has a PS2 (which he hates), a Dreamcast (for fags), a N64 (for kids) and a PC (for geeks).

    What does this make him?

    A Facist Fag who likes playing with kids toys who conveniently is also a geek who doesn't get out much?

    And he is an editor? I thought editors are supposed to screen what goes on their own s(h)ite. Very disturbing.

    Jamie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Mik Hammy


    Originally posted by Nitro-G:

    A Facist Fag who likes playing with kids toys who conveniently is also a geek who doesn't get out much?

    And he is an editor? I thought editors are supposed to screen what goes on their own s(h)ite. Very disturbing.

    It's a bit sad to see that there is so little games coverage in Ireland.
    And then, where there is, it's plagued by all this site-rivalry stuff.

    Are there ANY good Irish resources for an Irish games player?



    We've got to work together, C'mon!
    IP and GI


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭Noel Brady


    Believe me, there's no site rivalry on my side. I just worry about my site which is doing fine and, as long as it's doing fine, I'm doing fine.

    Regarding Jamie's attack, see my reply on the thread titled ''Jamie's vendetta''.

    Now, if we could just leave all of this bull$**** at the door anymore and get on with talking about games instead of rivalries and personal vendettas.

    Thanks once more for the promotion anyway Jamie. Our hits actually rose by 5% for no apparent reason on the day you posted this. Now we know why.

    Noel Brady www.game-ireland.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭Noel Brady


    Btw, you all seem to be overlooking one thing.

    I didn't write the article and the disclaimer even notes that most of the GI staff do not agree with the views of Mark Driscoll, including myself.

    Those articles are there just to make some people laugh. If you took offence, we apologise but I think there's always room for something a little lighthearted on a site.

    Noel Brady www.game-ireland.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭Noel Brady


    Hobbes,

    Funcom were founded in Oslo and have always been based there. They also have studios in Dublin and the US but they will always be Oslo-based.

    That article (Games Development In Ireland) should be particularly correct as it was written by Malachy Duffin, who is one of the main men in nIGMA himself. None of the GI staff had anything to do with writing it (Note the disclaimer at the bottom).

    Noel Brady www.game-ireland.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Originally posted by Noel Brady:
    Hobbes,

    Funcom were founded in Oslo and have always been based there. They also have studios in Dublin and the US but they will always be Oslo-based.

    Seeing as I'm a bit of an online RPG tinfoil axe wielding freak I read quite a number of RPG related sites.

    Funcom moved thier main offices back in September to North Carolina and increased thier dev staff there to help in the rollout of AO (More then likely QA staff at this point my guess).

    Taken from Lum the Mad's news site.
    FUNCOM TO MOVE TO US, NORWAY CRIES UNCONTROLLABLY
    Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 3:03 PM Filed by lum
    Gamespot is running the story that in preparation for the Anarchy Online rollout, Funcom, its publisher, is moving lock, stock and barrel from Oslo to North Carolina.

    Funcom explained to GameSpot that the move is intended to bring the company closer to the US gaming market, as the unlimited access that's common in the US has made online gaming particularly popular here. Funcom also expects that the move will make it easier to offer effective customer service for Anarchy Online.

    Btw games developers make a hell of a lot more then 20K a year. If that's all they are making in Ireland then I don't expect that many people to be lining up for a job.



    [This message has been edited by Hobbes (edited 28-10-2000).]


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I *would* like you two to bury the hatchet.
    You can start by not responding about how either of you "has already buried the hatchet and really its him who is at fault".

    On the article: Its entitled "You Wouldnt Like Me When I'm Angry"

    Its clearly supposed to be a rant. Its not wildly amusing but thats not really their Noels fault.

    one point about it smile.gif :
    The PC gamer refuses to accept that any console game could be good. GoldenEye? Pssh, it’s ‘too slow’ and runs at only 20 FPS, and you have to use the N64’s ‘crap’ controller to play it. Mario 64? Hah! You can’t kill anything in it -- ergo, it’s crap. Tekken? Only two players -- so 1990.

    This is bang on the money. Ironically the author has IMHO just nailed it!

    Could you play Everquest, HalfLife, Shogun, Anarchy Online on a console? Probably but it wouldnt be much fun or AS much fun.

    My response to the article ??

    pfff get a mouse, console-fanboy tongue.gif

    DeVore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Mik Hammy


    Personally, I find nothing less immersive than playing a game with a mouse, looking at a monitor screen.

    It's like having a sign taped up in front of you saying 'Do not get immersed in this'.

    We've got to work together, C'mon!
    IP and GI


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭Noel Brady


    Sorry about that Hobbes. It appears I was mistaken. However, that article was written back in August when Funcom were in Oslo so it was factually correct at the time of going to press.

    Regarding burying the hatchet, there's nothing I'd rather do. However, I cannot fulfill your other wish and not blame Jamie for what has happened. I have never attacked him or his website publically with libellous claims, that are downright lies in an effort to degrade his site, while he continues to do this to me and GI.

    Quite frankly, the staff of GI and I have decided that a stop must be put to this once and for all and that is why a solicitor has now been contacted. As far as I'm concerned, I have nothing to do with this anymore. Jamie can discuss it with our legal representatives.

    He's already had one too many chances as it is. After all, TP Media threatened court on GI for saying that Neil McGreevy was ''lazy'' in a sarcastic interview question. I'm all for free press and people taking the **** out of others, but he's going too far by trying to ruin reputations.

    Everything he says above is lies from calling me 15 to accusing GI ONCE MORE of stealing articles. Let him engage in his childish tit-for-tat with a few well-dressed university graduates.

    Noel Brady www.game-ireland.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Noel, all the bull$hit between you and jamie aside -

    That article is in no way "humourous" or "light-hearted". Its a steaming pile of donkey crap.

    I'm 18. I bought my own computer. "Daddy" didn't buy it.
    In truth, they aren’t even gamers. The only games that matter to them are Quake, Unreal Tournament and maybe, just maybe, StarCraft. All other applicants can go to hell

    I am a PC gamer. I don't play any of those games. I play Half-Life and various mods for it, and some other games like Carmageddon 2 and so on.

    I don't despise console games or console gamers.

    I know you didn't write that article, but as editor of the site... Do you have any fúcking sense at all? And involving lawyers in this quarrel between you and Jamie/Nitro-G ... christ's sake, that's just sheer muppetry.

    You and your site have lost all respect.

    As Shinji would say...
    "Get some skillz"

    - Munch
    gibskull2.gif

    [This message has been edited by Stephen (edited 29-10-2000).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭logic1


    I think ye should take your cue from dev. PoG is IMHO one of the best gamers sites around. I beieve it was the base for sites like fortress and I'm not sure which came first boards or pog but this network of sites provide some of the best games coverage in ireland. Never once have I seen such a childish and immature article published anywhere on an of the sites mentioned above. The lads that run those sites are always calm, composed and level headed. Absolutely no petty sniping involved. I think the amount of friction in this thread shows that the editors of the sites involved may be feeling rather insecure in their own material and rightly so.
    It wasn't even humorous, it was trash put out for a shock reaction and as you said your 5% hit increase.

    .logic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm 4 b1g l33t n3rD.
    I h4v3 l0@ds 0f Pr0n 0n mY ROM.

    Rather.

    It's about a society in freefall....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭bubbles


    I havn't laughed so much ever when reading this thread.... True most ppl here are nerds and what you say is true, but look at the alternative...

    Little scumbag ****ers with no education, or any chance of getting a job who can just about put a cd in a playstation, press buttons and know **** all on whats going on, while calling "Anto" over to play split screen, which totally sucks compared to online multiplayer gaming.
    And indeed the same stupid scumbag ****er probably can't even change the extreamly limited options that come with the game - not that you can change anything else.

    Alot of games on consoles are fun, but to slag PC users as being nerds... I'd rather be a well paid, porn collecting half intelligent nerd than be some w@nker scumbag who left school after his Junior cert who has the I.Q. of a monkey drinking 40p a can beer while trying to figure out a game that uses more than 2 buttons.

    And that I think you will find is hitting the nail on the head.

    As for game-Ireland... its obvious some 12 year old kid who 5pE4Ks |33t h4X0r talk could pull a better site out of his ass if thats the sort of **** they post up.
    And for the 2nd time ever I have actually checked out your site.. and indeed it is ****, just as I consider you a ****head Mr. Noel.



    [This message has been edited by bubbles (edited 29-10-2000).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭SantaHoe


    Again... aside from the web-site rivalry stuff (don't know - don't care)

    It's hard to imagine what was going on inside the head of the nerd who wrote that article.
    Fair enough, it was an angry rant, but the words - exaggerated, uninformed, one-sided, and pointless instantly spring to mind.
    And I'm sure there are PC gamers out there just like that, but it's pretty sad to portray the whole PC games scene based on his most negative experiences.
    I don't mind reading a rant, just so long as it's fair, and has a point.

    I'm a PC gamer, yet:
    {a}. bought my own PC (and consoles).
    {b}. have never downloaded warez games.
    {c}. love GoldenEye and Mario64.
    {d}. own N64, PSX, DC, MD.

    I think there are a huge number of PC gamers like me, that might read that and take offense.

    Also...
    Originally posted by Mik Hammy:
    Personally, I find nothing less immersive than playing a game with a mouse, looking at a monitor screen.
    I haven't found it a problem at all, I managed to get pretty immersed in Deus Ex.
    Don't worry, after a few months of PC gaming, you feel incomplete without a mouse and keyboard smile.gif

    PS. ROLFLOL smile.gif etc....

    boss_peace.gifwazzzaaaap!

    [This message has been edited by FrontPage-Express (edited 29-10-2000).]

    [This message has been edited by Dead{o}Santa (edited 29-10-2000).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    Originally posted by Mik Hammy:
    Personally, I find nothing less immersive than playing a game with a mouse, looking at a monitor screen.

    It's like having a sign taped up in front of you saying 'Do not get immersed in this'.


    You prefer playing Perfect Dark at 20 frames per second on a flickery TV with a gritty amputee joystick?



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 Swinga


    ok here comes the post from the idiot american:

    now, to put this into perspective, i quite often spend my afternoons between school and dates/play rehersal in my buddy's basement playing n64 and ps1 ((and now some ps2 as well)) with about 8 other people ((actually a mix between guys and chicks.)) Anybody who frequents the boards probably knows that i'm a hardcore computer gamer. however, "the world is not enough" is an awesome game, and ((if i could figure out how to jump strafe efficiently)) would rival even half-life. now my buddy jake just sneers when he sees how bad i am at bond, and says "oh, there's no way you can be a good gamer." and then my buddy dan pipes up and says "hehe...just take him on at a lan sometime..." Now, some of you may or may not know dan as Nidkikker. he ocassionally used to play on IGN's TFC server , along with any quake2 CTF server i was on, and anybody who was stupid enough to play him in r6. to put his r6 skills into perspective, he has not been seen on the zone in about a year and a half, and is still one of the top 50 most wanted players by clans ((at one point i believe he got as high as #6)).

    this is hardcore gaming. the guys who sit around, drink a case of mt. dew ((beer if we can find some...)) with their buddies, and get backrubs from sexy girls all the while playing bond, and can just as easily sit at home in their freezing houses, playing half-life at all hours of the night, on a server that is half a world away.

    for all of you who computer gamers who frown upon console gamers, and all of you console gamers who somehow feel superior to pc gamers, i say "fûck off!"

    now...pc gamers...geeks who can't get a date to save their life....whoever said that was a complete jerkoff idiot! my buddy dan ((as mentioned before)) has a girlfriend that is to die for. my buddy scott ((who was crowned the '97 DragonCon quake2 lan king)) is engaged to a beautiful and well off woman. i, ((who have played an assortment of games including, but not limited to, goldeneye, the world is not enough, quake, quake2, quake3, half-life, r6, starcraft, carmageddon, aoe, aoe-ror, aeo2, crimson skies, rogue spear, etc...)) seem to be endowed with a power to attract hte most sexy women around me...((being completely serious on that one boys and girls...))

    while i'm ranting on that...who else can i cite that you all probably know....ToiletFlush, aka Dante...i think we can safely say he's a lady's man....Dogmop, aka Alan..him too. hell, even Lump, aka John...Even he gets women!! so where, exactly, do you get off saying that pc gamers are geeks who have no lives??

    daddy bought my computer....NO! my parents couldn't even afford the case for this POS that i use...to say nothing of the entire computer!! i've had to cobble together ((and ocassionally steal)) the parts for this badass. and i'm only 16!!

    however...daddy bought my n64...yes!! well, i don't have one, but this is how a lot of youngsters nowadays would answer.


    well, i'm tired, as it's 1:15 in the morning here ((or is it 12:15....ah well))...so i'm gonna stop ranting and go to bed...ciao all

    -that laggy little redheaded american,
    crory/swinga/whatever

    [This message has been edited by Swinga (edited 29-10-2000).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    Console gamers giving out about PC gamers is as cheeky as Playstation zealots having a grudge against Sega or Nintendo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Originally posted by bubbles:
    As for game-Ireland... its obvious some 12 year old kid who 5pE4Ks |33t h4X0r talk could pull a better site out of his ass if thats the sort of **** they post up.

    lol, well said Bubbles.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Nitro-G


    Noel,

    Going by the fact that you have informed a lot of people about TP Media and you, I beleive that they now could do the exact same to you again.

    I just wanted to inform your readers about your attitude towards them, and I think that I was rightly able to do so, as they now know that you dont care for anything that you do.

    As for the taking articles from Future etc., yes I will admit that I am mistaken and publically apologise for doing so, but this does not take away in the slightest from the fact that Irish people do not call autumn 'Fall', so this is a blatant error that you did take articles from an American/Canadian site.

    My problem is purely with you in particular, because when I was helping you maintain your site when the other guy was doing the leaving cert, I put a lot of hassle into helping your site back then, which you have not informed people about, and that I helped redo the entire site, put posts up, reformat them all etc. And what did I get from it? You had promised me games in return and you sent them to me late every time, and also distributing review copies of games, which is against your contract with companies such as Virgin Interactive, Capcom, Sega, Eidos and more.

    Now, I will be perfectly happy never to speak to you again if you drop this whole silly thing, the only reason which I started because I thought that it was so bad on your site (the original article), or else I would be very happy to root through all the newsposts that you sent me, and match them up with their posts from IGN and a couple of other sites, plus forward the copies of the games you sent me back to the companies that gave you them, and let you deal with their highly paid college graduates.

    Deal?

    Jamie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Mik Hammy


    Originally posted by Sico:
    You prefer playing Perfect Dark at 20 frames per second on a flickery TV with a gritty amputee joystick?


    Er, can you read?
    I said I don't like playing with a mouse, man. My personal opinion.

    -I didn't mention PD.
    -MY TV is most certainly not flickerly, and indded, it's much more of a social fixture in the room for playing games on.
    -'Gritty amputee joystick', eh? That have been specifically designed for games playing for example.


    We've got to work together, C'mon!
    IP and GI


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Mik Hammy


    It amuses me to see a lot of people here are arguing about an article they haven't even read.

    Read it first before posting. Even better, read the entire series to see that the author attacks everything. That's what the columns for.

    This thread raises some questions:

    Why is it gamers are SO BLOODY SENSITIVE about their hobby?

    What makes PC gamers feel superior to console gamers and vice versa?

    Why does nobody see that PCs and consoles are different in many ways, not least of which is price.


    We've got to work together, C'mon!
    IP and GI


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭noog


    yea.... just what i was thinking...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Mik Hammy


    Originally posted by Dead{o}Santa:
    I haven't found it a problem at all, I managed to get pretty immersed in Deus Ex.
    Don't worry, after a few months of PC gaming, you feel incomplete without a mouse and keyboard smile.gif



    Nah, played on consoles and home computers all the time. Used a mouse since the Atari ST
    Just found I disliked them more and more, and liked console controllers.

    Not to mention all the trouble of setting stuff up on PCs. I just don't have time to wrestle with the soundcard for hours any more.

    It'll be interesting when console games become truly 'plug and play' smile.gif


    We've got to work together, C'mon!
    IP and GI


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭SantaHoe


    Although I wouldn't fancy playing any current FPS with a joypad, ditto for RTS games.
    Having said that, a joypad pìsses all over mouse&keyboard for racing, beat-em-up and platform games.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭bubbles


    True some games need a joypad, playing any beat 'em up on a keyboard is a joke.

    But you can buy joypads for the PC, so the option is there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kegser


    I enjoy a tug on the ol Mice myself while surfing the Inturnet.

    My favourite site is trannisex.com.

    I have a PlayStation.

    I only use it for the vibrating control pads.

    Keg(l33t h4><0r)s0r


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭logic1


    i like a good tug myself at times...i did give you or tranniesex didn't i?

    hehehe
    .logic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭Noel Brady


    Answers to queries above:

    Stephen: I don't care what Jamie says about me, but its when he starts slagging off my staff, people he doesn't even know, when I get mad. I couldn't care less about what TP Media or other industry members think about me because journalism is just a hobby to me ie. its free games and a bit of cash. However, some of my staff do want to continue careers in journalism and this is why it is important that they are not badmouthed and get the chance they deserve in later years without a manufactured reputation hanging over their heads.

    Jamie: All games sent to you were from TVG. I never sent you any games that were GI's. This is because I would of been breaking the contracts you mention. Consult Stephen Leyton if you want to verify this.

    Regarding the newspieces, check them out with Future. Like I said we cannot copy articles and those American newspieces were from ww.dailyradar.com, the American branch of DR-UK. Therefore please stop with your conspiracy theories about us stealing articles.

    Also, if you had problems with working for me back then you could easily have quit. The work was voluntary after all and I was not forcing you to do it. You did me a favour and I gave you some games in return. I apologised for their lateness but did I not explain that the delay was out of my hands?

    All those who say they hate the site: That's fine by me. I don't force you to read it. It's there if you want to and if you don't, then I'm not pointing a gun to your head and threatening you to visit GI. Like all sites, there are plenty who like GI, and plenty who hate it.

    Noel Brady www.game-ireland.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    I dunno... I kinda agree with Nitro, although, I do have more PC games then PS games... I always will be a PS'er! I've never met one single person who owns a Playstation and has good games for it and fits the discription of one of this so called creatures, 'The Nurds!' I hear so much about on #fortress.ie I left PS gaming a month or two ago because I've been stuck into CS, and UT, and AvP, and other such brilliant games. But lets face it, you can't beat the poping open of your original, Sony, 'hip' PlayStation, flip it on, and within a matter of seconds, BANG! Your playing! None of this 'Would you like to install this game in C:\Aahahha\youdon't\have\enough\space folder?' But then again, I bet all you 'l33t' peeps out there have like, 60gbs on there comp. frown.gif *strokes his 8gb computer* Anyway, point of the story is: Gaming is for Gaming, not for life. If some guy wants bloodlust with nifty graphics he might go play AvP, doesn't mean he's a nerd. If some guy prefars the playability of Metal Gear Solid on the PS, doesn't mean they're PC haters.

    So to the point, let us all get along... AND EAT LED YOU HORIBLY MUTATED SONSAB*TCHES!

    -BOS-Dark-Angel-[NsK]-
    ======================
    The Darkness is coming, welcome it, for it is mine.

    P.S: Did you know Ireland demand more PlayStations' than anywere in the world? (Except Japan of course) 8+ in 10 people will have a PS here. 9 in 10 say the prefar the PS to the N64 (Including me, damn wussy Mario Freaks with no blood! *Screams*) We get the first batch of PS2s to be shifted into Europe, and we get them before America! EAT IT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Originally posted by Mik Hammy:
    Not to mention all the trouble of setting stuff up on PCs. I just don't have time to wrestle with the soundcard for hours any more.
    Eh... That kind of thing went out the window with MSDOS a few years ago. Practically all modern PC games are written for windows, and are very simple and quick to set up.



    - Munch
    gibskull2.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    You get free games for pretending to be a journalist ??

    It's about a society in freefall....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 Swinga


    although from some of the idiot rednecks i have to deal with at work, you'd think that plugging a keyboard into a PS2 port was like putting a whole computer together from scratch...

    must say, console games certainly seem to have a particular appeal for those blessed with short attention spans, and low IQs...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    Children, children.

    Can you two idiots please play nicely in the sandpit? This sort of petty bickering is ridiculous; it doesn't happen between big sites, and whereas I'm sure you both feel very grown up and important when you use adult words like "contract" and "solicitor" in public forums, the fact of the matter is that you both come across as a pair of whinging kids who need their Huggies changing.

    This forum is for talking about games, not for mindless b1tching about sites that no f*cker reads anyway. If you don't have something on-topic to contribute, please don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.

    ja,
    Rob


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