Posting Ips in the internet?

KdjaCL · 16-01-2003 2:46pm #1

Possibly wrong forum.

But its new and shiny and may have an answer to this Q

Can you publicly post the Ips of people without their consent on the internet (not in passworded page) but on a normal page.

The website im querying is Uk based and their hosts deem this as ok ,is there a law against this does it vary from country to country???

kdjaC

leeroybrown · 16-01-2003 4:31pm

There shouldn't be any problem with it.

After all an IP is just a publicly avaliable number.

malico · 19-01-2003 9:05pm

I'm just wonderign why you would want to?

ecksor · 19-01-2003 9:33pm

I think it would depend on why the site has the data (i.e, is it privileged or not) and what exactly you mean by "a person's IP" (can you be personally identified by it?).

malico · 20-01-2003 10:23am

theroitically you can. For instance I have fixed IPs at home and at work, so they can be used to ID me and my pc

ecksor · 20-01-2003 2:52pm

Er, that's what I'm getting at. That would vary on a case to case basis though.

malico · 20-01-2003 3:13pm

And even a DHCPIP can be traced down easily.

ecksor · 20-01-2003 3:16pm

I can't believe you're not blonde.

malico · 20-01-2003 3:29pm

What you mean not blonde?

cancelme · 22-01-2003 1:12am

[- that's totally off-topic - ecksor -]

jd · 22-01-2003 1:54am

Originally posted by malico
What you mean not blonde?

I'm not sure who is worse..
ecksor for his implication regarding blondes. or you for not picking up the implication regarding yourself..:p

spod · 22-01-2003 3:33am

Ecksor was a pretty fetching blonde once.

malico · 22-01-2003 9:26am

I picked up the implication, but I thauhgt people on this list would be a little more grown up than to use out-moded slags

Snaga · 22-01-2003 9:48am

As far as Im aware its perfectly legal.

Take Open relay databases, lists of ip addresses that are known to have had spam sent from/via them.

Sysadmins can have their mail server block all mail coming from IP addresses in these DB's (take a look at mail-abuse.org or www.ordb.org).

The owners of these databases get threatened with litigation often enough and as they dont do anything with the information, just provide it to whoever wants it, they are doing nothing wrong.

jd · 22-01-2003 11:56am

Originally posted by spod
Ecksor was a pretty fetching blonde once.

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ecksor · 22-01-2003 12:45pm

Originally posted by Snaga
As far as Im aware its perfectly legal.

Take Open relay databases, lists of ip addresses that are known to have had spam sent from/via them.

Take ISPs. Releasing informations about what customers had what IPs at any given time to anyone who wanted it, or publishing it on a webpage. That is NOT ok. It depends!!

He still hasn't supplied the necessary context (and may not have realised that this thread was moved to this forum?).

(and assume the phrase "I am not a lawyer" for all posts on this thread).

ecksor · 22-01-2003 12:52pm

Originally posted by malico
I picked up the implication, but I thauhgt people on this list would be a little more grown up than to use out-moded slags

Fair enough. So, what are the cool kids calling you nowadays?

seamus · 22-01-2003 12:53pm

I'd deem it ok, if the person at the IP in question wants their IP to be publically broadcast - e.g. Web Servers, mail servers, etc etc etc.

Stuff like here on boards.ie is not ok. Mods can view ips for whatever purpose, but displaying someone's ip is (99% of the time) not ok.

IMO, it's very much like an address. No-one would like their home address put on a mailing list or broadcast about, but a street address is publically available (ie you can find out the exact address of any house you see).
However businesses want their address broadcast to as many people as possible.

As for legalities......it's a thorny issue I'd say. For example, if you broadcast someone's name, address and phone number, without consent, you will probably be stung for violating some sort of privacy rights, despite the fact that this information is publically available.
With an IP, I'd say it depends on what kind of info you give out. To say "hostname.co.uk is at IP 123.123.123.123", would be ok. But to add a list of what ports they have open, and/or a list of hostnames in their domain may open you up to action, unless they don't mind this info being bandied about on the net.....

That's the best comparison I can come up with tbh.

Snaga · 22-01-2003 1:00pm

Originally posted by ecksor
Take ISPs. Releasing informations about what customers had what IPs at any given time to anyone who wanted it, or publishing it on a webpage. That is NOT ok. It depends!!

quite right, kdjac, we need a context

(and assume the phrase "I am not a lawyer" for all posts on this thread). [/B]

Ditto.

Posting Ips in the internet?

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