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  • 11-01-2003 12:14am
    #1
    Lafortezza
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭


    Can the gay/bi people (or anyone else for that matter) explain the attraction/popularity of the following to gay people (big generalisation I know)...

    Graham Norton
    Jimmy Somerville (from the Communards)
    Barbara Streisland
    Boy George
    Erasure
    loads more I can't think of
    and what makes a gay icon anyway?

    this was inspired by watching one of those "Music of the 80s" flashback programmes on Channel 4, they had a video of Jimmy Somerville prancing away, in a tight red tshirt, singing that "Don't leave me this way" song that I loved and used to sing around the house on Saturday mornings when I was small...

    anyway I'm starting to ramble now, so I'll stop


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  • #2
    Shinji
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    I know relatively few gay people who don't find Graham Norton utterly cringeworthy... His audience, like that other prat Julian Clary, is mostly made up of young to middle aged women who think that kind of OTT gay prancing is somehow "exotic". Fundamentally he's trying far too hard and he's still not as funny as any of the real drag-type shows out there...

    The rest of them, I have no bloody idea. Hell, I don't know who half of them are. Erasure made some nice plinky plonk electronic music though, although I wasn't aware that they were gay icons :) I did however see them perform an utterly terrible live set at a party that Sony hosted a few years back, which mostly seemed to feature Andy Bell in a big frilly dress. Maybe that's the root of it all...


  • #3
    Dawg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭Dawg


    Dunno about anyone else but I cant stand most of the above mentioned. Boy George is ok, but I'm basing that on his dj skills and not his looks or personality.

    The rest of them? Bleh. Maybe would sing along to some communards or erasure tracks if really really pissed but I'd deny it all the next day. (The old "if I dont remember then it didn't happen" routine) ;)


  • #4
    STaN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭STaN


    I dont think their gay Icons per say. Graham Norton i have to admit i find hysterical, but in no way attractive, and that goes for everyone i know. You may be supprised, but allot of young straight men watch his show, though i doubt anyone over 40 would.

    Boy George is a great DJ and is quite big in the UK for trance events etc, I've also seen him on TV in Ibiza. Personally never even thought of him as an icon of any sort... was he in anything else? If he was, i was probably too young to remember.

    The rest i dont know, apart from Barbara Streisland, who all i know of is she's a musician and features allot in south park :D

    I actually don't know any gay icons, and cant see how anyone could be?


  • #5
    swiss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭swiss


    Originally posted by STaN:

    I actually don't know any gay icons, and cant see how anyone could be?
    STaN, how on earth could you say that. Don't you know our own Senator David Norris in the Seanad is a huge gay icon...

    http://www.davidnorris.ie/images/norris300.jpg

    Hang your head in shame :p

    On a more serious note, I don't personally have any huge gay icons. Most of the gay icons portrayed have such a stereotypical manner of expressing themselves that is immediately identifiable to all and sundry as "gay" or "camp", to which I cannot really relate.


  • #6
    p
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭p


    Originally posted by Shinji
    I know relatively few gay people who don't find Graham Norton utterly cringeworthy... His audience, like that other prat Julian Clary, is mostly made up of young to middle aged women who think that kind of OTT gay prancing is somehow "exotic".

    Er, I've wathed the show, and most people in the audience arne't middle aged women.

    Back to the original question. Why is random straight person popular?

    For the most part, I don't think they're popularity is anything to do with them being gay. People are popular because they're talented. The fact that they might also be out rageously camp is anything thing.

    :P

    - Kevin


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  • #7
    HerrLipp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭HerrLipp


    I have to admit laughing at mr. humpries on "are you being served?", him and mrs. slokem's pussy ;) Wouldn't go calling him a gay icon though.
    A moderately camp/flirtatious demeanour can be a turn-on, excessively camp on the other hand is an extreme turn off.
    And I do not think Graham Norton is funny, and no way does he have enough material to appear 5 times a week.


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