phundraiser. oh, mercy.

beretta · 13-12-2002 12:54pm #1

where to begin? well my head sure hurts a lot. owchers. last night's phundraising antics were quite the fun. quite the weird also, but fun nonetheless.

i thought the bands were pretty crap... with the exception of the crayonz, who i thought were really quite refreshing. i really paid attention to blotooth, who disappointed, and i'm not a fan of babelfish full stop. they were as expected. during wilts set i wandered about talking to strangers. one such person being rob taylor, who *is* very pretty. thanks for the tip, simon! although i think i scared him, as he ran away. sigh.

phantasm afterwards was weird. i think it was the annual convention of both sleazy guys and terrible chat up lines. some guy said to me "ive been watching you all night. i knew that if i stared hard enough, you'd come over here to talk to me. and here you are." (note: this was when i marched over to tell him to stop fvcking staring at me!) what a weirdo. another guy thought that by telling me about his toenails he'd make me swoon. odd.

anyway. verdict. a good night in all, but the atmosphere was weird. the people were weird. everything was just... weird. i did get to meet the lovely mick from polar though, though he still won't agree to marry me. aye.

Gar_ptc · 13-12-2002 1:50pm

thats cos mick is already my wife/bitch

polarbelly · 13-12-2002 2:55pm

holy god... i was rubber last night

got very sick... it was gaaaas!

when we were walkin into whelans i was saying to gav "tonight i'm gonna be sick" and hey presto i was...legend

the66electric · 13-12-2002 3:48pm

I was lying on my couch preparing to hack up dense swathes of vile chunkage and WILT came on ITV a the festivals.

What is this? Where am i? Am is still in Whelans? How tall is that singer SEAL? Do i have any Canadian cousins?

Slumber...

soma · 13-12-2002 4:17pm

The sound in whelan's was very poor last night..... the vocals were SO low in the mix.

Crayonz were okay, Blotooth suffered alot with the sound but were fab (man I'd love to here them *properly*), Babelfish were so-so and Wilt were just brilliant.

Actually how on earth were babelfish higher up the bill than blotooth?

I'll agree with berreta that the atmos was..... odd....

Tyrrial · 13-12-2002 8:34pm

well, i'd like to say that all the dick heads shouting durring bablefish should be shot. that really, really pissed me off....

Maxmara · 13-12-2002 10:24pm

have to agree ...didn't think much of the live acts or maybe it was just the sound/crowd?/

Achille · 13-12-2002 10:39pm

hmm, mixed reviews.

well, i didnt make it last night.
i was gonna try to get in early and stay till 10 and then go to another certain Xmas party. *ahem*

but i gots delayed, didnt get in early enough. ah well.
had a good night anyway!

BrianD · 13-12-2002 11:38pm

What is with the chatter at every gig now-a-days? Every gig I go the "chatter" levels are getting higher and higher. Last night I could hear people even starting to shout to one another as the bands set got louder. Why whinge about MCD and ticket prices when really all you want is a good natter? Any thoughts?

roxy · 13-12-2002 11:44pm

Sorry Brian, I can't hear you...

Morn · 14-12-2002 12:56am

It all sounded pretty rockin from where I was - which was out the Naas Road actually - I was attending by telephone link-up due to unavoidable work-type commitments... Babelfish came across the best - I think Blotooth were a little loud...

back to front · 14-12-2002 1:16pm

All the bands were brill.

The amount of people talking over the bands was obscene! Why pay in the venue? go to the front bar!

I missed the crayonz but heard they were great.

Blotooth were brilliant and sounded enormous, though I do agree they were a bit muffled or something. I would have liked to have heard more vocals in the front of house.

I always thought Babelfish were great live, but I have to say I dont think thay enjoyed themselves (singer looked like she had wasps in her ears) (sound fault again) and it came across to the 'arseholes' in the audience who then had an excuse to take up conversation with each other at the top of their lungs!

after Babelfish, Wilt as always did'nt dissapoint. Very tight and very familier songs so everyone lent their ears (from respect, which I wish great sounding, lesser known bands did'nt have to work so hard for) and the atmosphere reached normality again.

Woth every cent though.

and oh yea, Berreta...... at heart, are you an angry person?

beretta · 14-12-2002 2:45pm

angry at heart? heh. i love these half-accusations. i get the feelings you're gonna tell me whether i am or not, so i lie back and wait.

(oh, and it's spelt b-e-r-e-t-t-a.)

back to front · 14-12-2002 3:36pm

no, no. Berratta, I don’t want to accuse you. I just wanted to tell you a story my granny once told me when she was drunk. Though I’m replacing the words ' s h i t e music’ with ‘Babelfish’ (*Calming music fills the air)

*There was a boy.(or girl, nobody really knew) called Bereta who didn’t like Babelfish. One day his.(or her, still no-one knew) father gave him a bag of nails and a hammer.
"Hammer a nail into the fence every time you take a disliking to Babelfish, soon there will be peace for you." he said.
So every time he.(or her, difficult for the family by now) heard Babelfish on Phantom and felt queasy, Berrate would go out into the garden and hammer a nail into the wooden fence. This made him/her acutely conscious of his/her distaste and he began to make attempts to control it. Baretta found himself.(settled for some time with male) putting fewer and fewer nails into the fence with each passing day and one evening he realised that he did not have to go to the fence or feel the need to vomit even once.
The next morning Bearetta gave the nails and the hammer back to his father, telling him he did not need them any more as he had learnt to control his dislike for Babelfish.
"Very good," said his father. "Now pull out all the nails from the fence."
Barette spent the greater part of the morning pulling out the nails, but finally he had accomplished his task. He gave the nails to his father.
"So many!" said the daddy. "Come let us see what they have done to the fence."
Together they examined the holes left by the nails in the fence.
"Your dislike for that band may die down," said the man to his son.(so he thought). "But the harm it has done doesn’t go so easily. It remains like these holes."
It was a lesson Barrata never forgot. His tendency to dislike Babelfish and their kind of music was not easily tamed, but eventually he developed a tolerant and peaceable disposition.(Later, much later, Barretta told his family that he was infact a unic)

Rite!! I'm off for a saturday afternoon ****.

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the fnj · 14-12-2002 10:51pm

Originally posted by beretta
. some guy said to me "ive been watching you all night. i knew that if i stared hard enough, you'd come over here to talk to me. and here you are."

You can't argue with results.

dera · 15-12-2002 2:27am

i guess i kind of agree with a lot of the above.

But you can't fault Babelfish .. I thought they were really great .. of all the bands, they made best use of the not-so-great-sound on the night ..
and I'm a big fan of Blotooth, though the vocals were criminally low .. and I couldnt hear his 12-string for a lot of the set .. still, the songs came across real well.
the crayonz, though, I wasnt sold on .. the songs just seemed to lack a bit of .. something. Not on the same level as the other 3 bands.

polarbelly · 15-12-2002 2:58am

back to front...

that was a damnlovely story

i'm pissed but i enjoyed that story

why am i here??????

the66electric · 15-12-2002 11:24pm

Must have been Wilts sound whore doing all the sound coz all the other bands sounded like a pet shop burning down until Battle and crew came on.

thedrowner · 16-12-2002 11:53am

that was a great post back to front.....are you in the band????? purposely misspelling beretta every time....hmmmmm

anyway, i didnt go, id love to know what mick was doing ni the toilets (sounds dodgy) with the support group

and also mick, i bet my vomit on friday night rivalled yours on thursday....i was lying down in bed, and i projectile vomiited and i hit a spot 10 feet away on the wall....(and as an added bonus i was too pissed to clean it up)

Tyrrial · 16-12-2002 12:54pm

well i love bablefish and blotooth, but the fact that the vocals for blotooth were not great at all and poor bablefish were drowned by ignorant ass holes talking, it really but a bit of a damper on the night... still all in all i had a pretty good time

thedrowner · 16-12-2002 1:38pm

the only things worse than people talking during songs is people shushing them...

lamda · 16-12-2002 7:08pm

No the worst thing is somebody who doesnt know the words to songs but insists on bellowing out the tune in a kind of a wail right into your ear. Happens to me a lot... :rolleyes:

back to front · 18-12-2002 5:36pm

In fairness. With an 85% of the audience there to see the 3 RAAAAWWWK bands, poor babelfish were like a mosh interlude. I'd dare any quiet artists to fill in the Gap between blotooth and Wilt. Imagine...even Damien Rice with all his magical (pin drops - shhhh) powers would have found it hard.

Tyrrial · 18-12-2002 7:41pm

thanks back to front i like people that back up my points and by the way drowner, try posting in topics were people accually care what you have to say...... i'm sure there's a thread some were on the website that your yet to infect with your random bull s**t.

keep looking

polarbelly · 18-12-2002 8:52pm

in fairness tyrrial that s abit fúckin harsh

and drowners post was perfectly on topic, so it aint random in any way shape or form

Tyrrial · 19-12-2002 12:04am

.......i guess after reading over what i said, i was a bit of a harsh prat to say that.
oops, sorry

blinker · 19-12-2002 1:07am

only caught the last 10 minutes of the first band crayonz but thought they rocked - blotooth and bablefish deserve to be talked over as they were lame -

wilt rocked! people talk over crap bands and should not be critisised for it. the bands should be better. I would have changed the running order on the night to blotooth, bablefish, crayonz and wilt or swaped the two lame bands for two more rock bands.

Tyrrial · 19-12-2002 1:26am

ok....
after the stupid thing i said to poor drowner (sorry) i decided that i won't let my rage type my meaages but the last post!... the more rage the better!

blinker what the hell makes you think that because YOU don't like a band means they should be talked over.... of course your completly within your own rights to dislike a band, to be such an ignorant cow and proclaim that a band unworthy of your praise should be treated with such disrespect makes me sick! in fact i dislike wilt.... so much so that i left the gig early to avoid them. i didn't stand at front shouting about how crap they are. and i respect their talent and fans so please let people with different/better music tasts be able to hear what they paid for....

i'm really glad i got that out of my system....
i should stop being such a prat.....at some point later in my life but untill then i shall defend my posts..

blinker · 19-12-2002 1:42am

excuse me! People don't talk over real talent.

everyone talked over bablefish because they were booring.

blotooth are like a bad covers band.

Wilt and crayonz would not change my life but they have some rocking tunes and kept the majority of the crowds attention.
They were playing real live music where as bablefish had a lot of their sound on laptop and blotooth even have backing vocals on tape. I saw them before and the vocals are even going when nobody is near a mic. not far off a boy band if you ask me.
laptops and backing tracks - I would rather see someone with just an acoustic guitar. bablefish have about six of them on stage and still they need a computer to play live. sad

Some people will always talk at gigs but regardless of the style of music real talent can keep the attention of the majority of the audience.

Tyrrial · 19-12-2002 1:49am

I think your missing my point,
i'm a big fan of bablefish and blotooth, i know they didn't play to best of there abiltiy and i also know that not everyone likes there stuff.
but if phantom has a point it is to play song that because of the "majority" are songs that aren't payed on radio, so if your are of the oppinion that a band is great due to there popularlity among the masses then i think you've lost the spirit of what phantom stads for. i really don't care what you THOUGHT of how the bands played and why they were crap, but please remember that the majority of people will rather brity spears to what ever the hell you like....

blinker · 19-12-2002 1:59am

pity you couldn't spell check you own post also.

you don't get the point at all.

I am not talking about the majority of the audience knowing the bands songs but the ability of the artists to capture and keep the attention of the audience.

I had only ever seen blotooth once and had never seen any of the other three bands before.

I am just comenting on what I nothiced. the audience was not interested in nor entertained by the second or third bands. I only caught the end of the first band and perhaps it was the same for the start of their performance. When I walked in the majority of the crowd were not talking but watching the stage and that was a really good sign. It was not until wilt came on that the audience attention was the same - well much better in fact.

It doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

Tyrrial · 19-12-2002 11:14am

you've gotta understand that no every band can produce music that is perfect for everyone! the point is that if there were only a small group of people who were there simply to see a band that arn't liked by the majority they shoudl be respected and ignorant people like you should just shut up, grin and bare it!

no one has the right to ruin other peoples night's because of their perticular music tast

oh and the fact i'm dyslexic dosen't mean that my point should be ignored so, if you want you can spell check my post
thanks

back to front · 19-12-2002 11:22am

B-e-r-r-e-t-a or B-e-r-e-t-t-a or fuc ckin B-l-i-n-k-e-r

it's pretty damn obvious you're the same angry boll ox!

What a lame charachter you are. Typical of every synical and old fashioned attitude out there.

Just f u c k off. There's no hiding for you. I bet you've changed your name a thousand times on this board. pis off. I can guess the other names you've had.

polarbelly · 19-12-2002 1:04pm

Originally posted by blinker
pity you couldn't spell check you own post also.

nothiced.

this is real petty but it just wrecks my head when ppl give out about other ppl's spelling

tyrrial has a point, i think, its not fair for everyone to ruin other ppl's nights cos they dont like that particular band... ie. if i paid in to see babelfish, bit of a pisser for me if everyone around is talking.... but it is true that if a band holds folks attention they wont talk (anyone at sigur ros- i was afraid to breathe)

just on the point that they had laptops and backing tracks onstage... personally, i think if it ads to the sound then it should stay, i love the noises and effects that babelfish have... and if you dont like that, surely you hate electronica which has a hugely growing fan base here in ireland (not saying that you should like it, just wondering more so... it'd be awful weird if you didnt like the fact that babelfish had a laptop and liked other more dancey/electronica bands/acts)

Gary D · 19-12-2002 1:17pm

True people should respect bands even if their not to thier liking and appreciate the time and effort that is put into each song.Im not saying i like every band i see but why ruin it for people that do like them by signposting your dislike for the particular bands.Especially at more intimate gigs, its a right pain in the arse.

Yeah and that Sigur Ros gig was just unbeliveably quite it was amazing, the gig that is.

Cozpyro · 19-12-2002 1:33pm

I agree. It can be such pain when people talk over your performance. Really disheartning.

But then again I find that you only really notice people talking when the majority of the audience are doing it. I find that if the majority of the audience is engaged then those who are disinterested are less likely to mutter. You can still pick them out by the expressions on their faces but a least they are keeping sthum!

beretta · 19-12-2002 5:25pm

actually, the pseudonym "beretta" is the only one i use on this here board. i find it ridiculous that you would assume i'd adopt different names to post argumentative points. if i have something to say, i don't need to hide behind another name to say it. however, i think this thread has gotten very old, very fast. if you folks are hell bent on bickering so, do it over email and leave the rest of us out of it.

frank05330 · 19-12-2002 7:43pm

blinker you really are a ****ing idiot.
i dunno about the babelfish, but i know for a fact that blotooth are one of the most talented bands around. and real talent does not hold the attention of the majority of the crowd. ive seen plenty of people with real talent get up on stage, play a brilliant gig, and be ignored. what it boils down to really, is that talent doesnt matter **** all as to whether a band is talked over or not. the deciding factor is how many absolute ****s like you there are in a crowd on any given night.

oh, and blotooth a bad covers band?
hehehe.
i guess charlie didnt know what he was doing then, when he paid them alot of money to play covers in one of the busiest resorts in lanzarote for several years.
and im sure there's a person out there who could take all your other points too, and prove them wrong just like that.

thedrowner · 20-12-2002 9:45am

gosh im getting up a lot of people's noses these days.

anyway, just from wandering around gigs way too much (as is in my job discription) i know people complain about the talking over music, but from an observer point of view, i never hear the talking over music, just the shushing, that's all i was trying to say

back to front · 20-12-2002 11:18am

It would be really funny if mr/mrs Beretta/Blinker actually thought blotooth were playing any covers.

mumblin deaf ro · 20-12-2002 2:47pm

I don't mind people talking during my set. You're there to entertain the crowd who, after all, have paid to be there. There's nothing that takes the joy out of a gig quicker than people sssshhhhing everyone else. best of all are those rare occassions where the mood is right and people are quiet voluntarily - now that means something.

Incidentally, if it puts you off playing when people talk, you might try practicing your songs with the telly on. It takes greater concertration but it's certainly possible.

Mewzel · 20-12-2002 4:23pm

i gotta say, i thought the crayonz were pretty good, BUT as you said blinker/berta you missed most of their set and i can honestly tell you that blotooth captured the audiences attention a lot more than the crayonz.

beretta · 20-12-2002 7:33pm

if you read my original post, you'll see that i WAS there for the entire gig. i saw all of the bands. i paid attention to blotooth's set, as i had heard great things, but they didn't captivate me. i'm not a fan. get your facts straight.

Tyrrial · 20-12-2002 9:46pm

ok... lets see...

"i thought the bands were pretty crap... with the exception of the crayonz, who i thought were really quite refreshing. i really paid attention to blotooth, who disappointed, and i'm not a fan of babelfish full stop. they were as expected."
-beretta

"caught the first band crayonz but thought they rocked - blotooth and bablefish deserve to be talked over as they were lame"
-Blinker

nope..... can't see a single similariy.... their both prats if nothing else. so feel like changing your name again my dear?

beretta · 20-12-2002 11:45pm

it's not unheard of for two people to share opinions, or to have similiar takes on situations. by your reasonings, i should therefore assume that you are also posting under the names of "back to front" and "raggamuffin", to name but two.

Tyrrial · 21-12-2002 12:14am

yeah... sure....
you know what, we'll agree to disagree..
if it makes you feel any better about yourself then ok:
i'm also everyone else in the world who thinks your a prat.
i guess your hit list has just been shortened.

Jocasta · 21-12-2002 3:52pm

meow! a saucer of milk and a table for two

SimonMaher · 21-12-2002 7:05pm

Hello all,

I dont think even Muppet Monarchy will object if I close this thread! Jaysus. The important facts eg the thank yous and the money raised are detailed in a sticky posting above.

Regards,

Pete Reed
Phantom FM

phundraiser. oh, mercy.

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