I'm finally getting a new Pc, like it?

Raife

I'm finally getting my Pc this thursday *fingers crossed*.

Its a kick ass one to.

Heres the specs and stuff...


2.5 ghz pentium 4
1gb sdr ram
200gb hard drive
128bit geforce 4
dvd rom
cdrw
gigabyte motherboard
floppy drive "obviously"
case
k/board
optical mouse
flat bed scanner
hp printer
xp home ed
speaker subwoofer 1200

The above will cost me 2550 Euro including building cost, due to whole sale prices and the person hos doing it i've known for ayear and owns a net cafe.

plus my old 2gb hard drive and my old outboard 100mb zip drive.


Nice huh?

Although I won't have net at home for a good while.

Whats evryone else got?

Ltr!!
Raife!!

Matt Simis

Originally posted by Raife
I'm finally getting my Pc this thursday *fingers crossed*.

Its a kick ass one to.

Heres the specs and stuff...


2.5 ghz pentium 4
1gb sdr ram

[snipped]

Ltr!!
Raife!!

Hmmm, hopefully thats a typo and should say 1GB DDR RAM (or Rambus)..

Hope you are getting a huge monitor included in that price too..



matt

BArra

Coolermaster ATC-201 Case
p4 2.53 ghz "northwood"
asus P4T533-C 478/533mhz Motherboard
Plextor IDE 48x/24x/48x CD-RW
Pioneer DVD drive IDE 16x/40x Slot-in
120GB Western Digital 8mb buffer HD
512mb 1066mhz samsung rambus
radeon 9700 128mb
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum!
Volcano 7+ Heatsink
Desktop Theatre DTT2200 5.1 Surround Sound/Sub-Woofer
Plantronics DSP500
fUnC sUrface 1030



ty, and nn



baz

zAbbo

if i had 2250 i`d want a lot more.

BArra

mine came to the sum of

€2100

o_0


baz

GoneShootin

Matt Simis

Ok, well then Ill beat you Barra


P4 2.5GHz C1 running at 3700mhz (for now..)
512MB DDR400
Radeon r9700
19" Planar TFT

rest of the specs the same (well, Audigy2 player and smaller HDD for me). I havent toted up costs, but my system didnt cost more than 2.5K, including the €700 cooling system.



Matt

Quigs Snr

No Raife , I don't like your machine. In fact I hate it ;-) Seriously, I think it's a bit overpriced. I like Barra's tho'.

Dempsey

Originally posted by BArra
Coolermaster ATC-201 Case
p4 2.53 ghz "northwood"
asus P4T533-C 478/533mhz Motherboard
Plextor IDE 48x/24x/48x CD-RW
Pioneer DVD drive IDE 16x/40x Slot-in
120GB Western Digital 8mb buffer HD
512mb 1066mhz samsung rambus
radeon 9700 128mb
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum!
Volcano 7+ Heatsink
Desktop Theatre DTT2200 5.1 Surround Sound/Sub-Woofer
Plantronics DSP500
fUnC sUrface 1030



ty, and nn



baz

What do you plan to do with dat, complex maths equations?
Thats one hell of a machine, take a bow

koneko

Barra's PC is standard spec, I don't see what's so l337 about it :rolleyes:

Raife, that is seriously too much to be paying for a PC like that. Did you get the moon on a stick with it too? I should hope so.

BArra

a lot of my parts are top of the line so i reckon its above average...

matt, check out the 512mb of rambus <----
oh mine is a radeon 9700PRO, there is a differance


baz

leeroybrown

A pretty good machine (I hope the RAM is high spec DDR at the price)

I would have thought that at first sight you could have gotten the job done cheaper.

"Case" doesn't say a lot either, for that price I'd want one kick ass Antec or Coolermaster one.

A 200GB HDD adds a lot to cost too.

elexes

Originally posted by dempseyt
What do you plan to do with dat, complex maths equations?
Thats one hell of a machine, take a bow

its for online solitare

Matt Simis

Originally posted by BArra
a lot of my parts are top of the line so i reckon its above average...

matt, check out the 512mb of rambus <----
oh mine is a radeon 9700PRO, there is a differance


baz

Ok, my Radeon is a PRO as well (the non-pros are only just out, I have mine for months), I just wasnt bothered putting in the super extra "Pro" tag.

I see you have Rambus, its nice and fast indeed, but so is CAS2 DDR400. I intend getting a Dual Channel DDR board and using my existing ram along side another.

I do think its rather humorous that you think Rambus really makes any difference with a CPU running so s l o w. Yeah, my CPU really runs at 3700, and when I was buying the parts for this system the privilage of Rambus over DDR paid for half my cooling system. I went with the cooling system.

Im sure what Koneko was referring to was that a quick stroll to Dell.ie gets you pretty much your entire system (bar the case, fine).. and last time I checked, Dells were still just "Dells", big whoop..


Matt

BArra

3700 ? hmmmm

u might have over 3ghz but u dont have hyper threading..

dell pc's are **** imo, the parts they sell are crap most of the time.

and who said i cant overclock mine to over the 3ghz mark ? i certainly have the cooler for it, and the case also has 3 80mm fans exhausting any heat inside the case,

also i cant read minds, the PRO and non PRO are totally differant cards

also you must have gotten some very cheap components to keep that system under 2.5k ? a radeon months ago ??? were they even out months ago ? , if so it must have being v.pricey

baz

leeroybrown

Whta kind of cooling are you running to get 3.7 out of that P4 Matt?

PiE

This thread is pretty pathetic.

leeroybrown

Indeed ... hence some of us not actually posting specs.

But one has to let people who've just expended vast quantities of money on new hardware (wisely or unwisely) show it off and be brought down to earth with a bang

Anyway, it's the people who grind that extra performance out of their hardware who deserve the respect not the people running expensive CPU's at stock speeds.

Dempsey

Originally posted by elexes
its for online solitare

No, you'll need quad Xeon's or something for that and DSL or T3

theciscokid

well i dunno who said BArras machine was standard, because it's very powerful for a home user machine,

and dell in my opinion make good machines, no real complaints about the parts,

my machine was good in its day - anyway on with the crap

dell : xp home/linux red hat 8
p4 1.7
256 ddr ram
80 gb (7,200 rpm)
64 mb geforce 2 mx tv out (which does me very nicely thank you)
soundblaster live 1024
sub woofer / speakers etc..
logitech pro cam 3000
optical / wireless logitech mouse/keyboard
flatscreen monitor
cd-rw/dvd combo

BabyEater

I don't think you are going to get near Matts 3.7GHz Barra with a volcano as i would say Matt is using some phase- change cooling to get that overclock.

Matt Simis

Originally posted by BArra
3700 ? hmmmm

"u might have over 3ghz but u dont have hyper threading.."

I sure dont... but then again I never said I did!?

"and who said i cant overclock mine to over the 3ghz mark ? i certainly have the cooler for it, and the case also has 3 80mm fans exhausting any heat inside the case,"


Well, off you go, let us know how you get on.

"also i cant read minds, the PRO and non PRO are totally differant cards also you must have gotten some very cheap components to keep that system under 2.5k ? a radeon months ago ??? were they even out months ago ? , if so it must have being v.pricey"
baz

Not any more expensive than they are now. I bought it very nearly two months ago, from www.crucial.com . When I purchased I didnt have to pay VAT (US Site), unfortunately since then I recieved a VAT invoice in the post . Basically I ended up paying just under Komplett's price for their Hercules version. AFAIK, the Radeons price hasnt really changed much, and wont till it receives some competition. I buy lotsa stuff from Ebay, such as the 19" TFT, cost me $699 there, $1200 new at the time.

Matt Simis

Originally posted by leeroybrown
Whta kind of cooling are you running to get 3.7 out of that P4 Matt?

Im using a Prometeia, its similar to a Vapochill but considerably more powerful. See www.chip-con.com for more info.

Originally posted by PiE
Re: My dick is bigger than yours.
This thread is pretty pathetic.

Yes well, it is awfully big, Ill have to admit. :cool:

ozpass

"I've got a cheese sandwich, it cost €2.20"

"I've got a cheese sandwich WITH pickle and it only cost €1.50!"

"Yeah but mine's a TOASTED cheese sandwich and I got half a bag of Tayto thrown in for only €1.10!"

Well done for building high-specced machines guys but powerful PC's really aren't worth falling out over.

Cheese butties on the other hand.......;)

marauder

Anyway, it's the people who grind that extra performance out of their hardware who deserve the respect not the people running expensive CPU's at stock speeds.

I agree with leeroybrown .

Matts acheivement is to be commended. However I have to say the rig BabyEater built impresses me more...

BabyEater

Glad to see somebody knows quality when they see it Marauder

Lenny

I build my computer there last night,
AMD 2200+
512pc2700 ddr
120gig 8mb 7200rmp
k4 ultra mainboard,
lg 48x/16x/48x
Radeon 9700 pro
optical mouse
e-star case
all for just a little over 1,100

RicardoSmith

Actually I have a Dell P4 2ghz at work and its practically silent and quite nippy. It has a fantastic Sony 19" monitor. Mine has decent components in it too. To tell the truth after years of building my own PC's I think the next time I'll buy a Dell. No overclocking options though, boo. Still its a really solid and stable machine. 5 of my m8's have Dells too and they are all very happy with them.

Currently I'm running a P4 1.8@2.4 at home and I don't see much difference in speed between it and the Dell for most stuff. I've found it much harder to build a machine thats as quiet as the Dell too.

(incidentally it has no floppy drive. I haven't used one in years)

Matt Simis

Originally posted by marauder
I agree with leeroybrown .

Matts acheivement is to be commended. However I have to say the rig BabyEater built impresses me more...

LOL... I had a ghetto mod before this too:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50453


Pity I didnt post the pics, but it was messy, traded it in for the Prometeia.


Nice spec Lenny, did well to keep it within that price range too.


Matt

Gerry

Raife, tbh I think you may be getting ripped off. I'm putting together a similar machine with half the ram and hard drive, but a 19" LG Flatron monitor for about 600 euro less all in. ( It may work out even less. ) The scanner and printer aren't worth over 150 unless they are particularly good. I'd say you are paying 200 euro over the odds, roughly.

As for the comparing specs crap, well this happens every so often. It is fairly pathetic a lot of the time, but a lot of people will feel the urge to somehow justify their purchases by boasting about them. As others have said its a lot more useful to talk about how much tweaking you have done to the machine, rather than how fast a stock chip you have bought.

Matt, 3700 is a great overclock, but I'd say you paid plenty for that 2.5 C1. There are 1.8 Ghz C1 parts out now which have gone to 3.5ghz. I'd be happy with a 1.8 at a little over 3 on air cooling.

I also think that you are misunderestimating the difference between ddr and rambus. Most people running ddr have not got cas2 ddr 400, they have cas2.5 266 or 333, sometimes they may run at cas2. The p4 even at moderate speeds is bandwidth hungry, once you get over 2ghz there is a sizeable performance increase to be had from going to pc1066 rambus.

However dual ddr should work nicely for you, when it becomes available. I'd say you will see a decent speed boost with a granite bay board.

Matt Simis

Originally posted by Gerry

Matt, 3700 is a great overclock, but I'd say you paid plenty for that 2.5 C1. There are 1.8 Ghz C1 parts out now which have gone to 3.5ghz. I'd be happy with a 1.8 at a little over 3 on air cooling.



I also think that you are misunderestimating the difference between ddr and rambus. Most people running ddr have not got cas2 ddr 400, they have cas2.5 266 or 333, sometimes they may run at cas2. The p4 even at moderate speeds is bandwidth hungry, once you get over 2ghz there is a sizeable performance increase to be had from going to pc1066 rambus.

When I bought the C1, the 2.5s were the only ones available at a decent price. Even now, purchasing a 1.8 will still most likely get you a B0.

I dont think Im misunderstanding anything about DDR vs Rambus. Rambus evangelists have a habit of assuming Rambus makes up for any\all deficiencies in their system, when all results of seen has shown a minuscule performance increase over Cas2 DDR333, let alone DDR400.
I wasn't claiming defacto DDR400 was CAS2, merely pointing out that I wasn't too worried about not having RAMBUS as my DDR400 does run at CAS2.

In regards to bragging about purchases, may I remind all you "holier than thou" types that the original poster asked what other peoples specs were like, presumably in the same price bracket (2K). Since this was point of the thread, I find the snipes from those with "level heads" to be misplaced and pointless.


How about someone with a fast Rambus system posts some benchmarks in a new thread (on HW Tweaking?). Im talking about advanced, modern games\progs here, ie Commanche4, all details on. I am genuinely interested in the real world speed of both memory types. No hype, no BS, no "select" benchmarks.



matt

Raife

Actually I failed to mention the 10 inch monitor I was getting , top quality and I'll upgrading the processor in the summer toa 5ghz dual pentium 4 and the printer and scanner are really good quality especiallly the printer.

LOl... And no I won't be playing online solitaire, once I get ADSL which hopefully will be rather sooner than later thats if I'm within the 3km range so I'll be playing UT 2003 etc... with it.

Also I'll be using it to learn 3d Studio max and well thats why its gonna be so fast, t'was either that or get a Sylicone Graphics PC which would of cost me an arm, a leg and a testicle.

So I'm really happy with it so :P .

I have alot of projects which I need completed which were put on the back burner until I got the new PC so, BLAH!

Thanks for all the replies and your views and btw Dell rip you off, I tried them first and it would of cost me around 4g's so I don't like them much, but that just my view.

Catch ya on the flip side!


Ltr!!
Raife!!

Matt Simis

Originally posted by Raife
Actually I failed to mention the 10 inch monitor I was getting , top quality and I'll upgrading the processor in the summer toa 5ghz dual pentium 4

Hmm.... something wrong here methinks. Either your joking or well um...

Its unlikely you are getting a 10" monitor, as apart from being uselessly small, they are very hard to source. Perhaps you mean 20"? There will be no 5GHz P4s.. certainly not in the summer. You also wont be able to run dual Intel anything these days but Xeons, and your existing motherboard is useless in that regard (it wont take Xeons).



Matt

RicardoSmith

Leave him alone hes broke from spending 4k on 3D studio Max

Raife - What time can it render the apollo capsule in then? :eek:

Gerry

Originally posted by Matt Simis
When I bought the C1, the 2.5s were the only ones available at a decent price. Even now, purchasing a 1.8 will still most likely get you a B0.

Fair enough, but then again I'm not going to go out and buy a 1.8 without ensuring its a C1.

Originally posted by Matt Simis
I dont think Im misunderstanding anything about DDR vs Rambus. Rambus evangelists have a habit of assuming Rambus makes up for any\all deficiencies in their system, when all results of seen has shown a minuscule performance increase over Cas2 DDR333, let alone DDR400.
I wasn't claiming defacto DDR400 was CAS2, merely pointing out that I wasn't too worried about not having RAMBUS as my DDR400 does run at CAS2. [/B]

Hrm, not an evangelist here, I completely disapprove of rambus's business practises, and even the implementation on the intel i850e could be better performance wise. I was just saying that pc1066 is usually faster than anything less than ddr400 cas2, the distance depending on how fast the ddr is running and the timings. I'm well aware of how much benchmarks can vary, but all the ones I've seen seem to be saying the same thing.

No, of course rambus isn't going to make up for other deficiencies in a system.

Originally posted by Matt Simis
In regards to bragging about purchases, may I remind all you "holier than thou" types that the original poster asked what other peoples specs were like, presumably in the same price bracket (2K). Since this was point of the thread, I find the snipes from those with "level heads" to be misplaced and pointless.
[/B]

Thats very true, theres always the back button if you don't like the content of the thread.

Originally posted by Matt Simis
How about someone with a fast Rambus system posts some benchmarks in a new thread (on HW Tweaking?). Im talking about advanced, modern games\progs here, ie Commanche4, all details on. I am genuinely interested in the real world speed of both memory types. No hype, no BS, no "select" benchmarks.
[/B]

That would be interesting ok, and theres plenty of people with ddr systems to compare against. Justhalf has a pc1066 rambus system, hopefully he will read the thread.

Raife

Damn Typo! Its a 19 inch monitor, oh yeah and its ddr ram.

Thanks for the replies!

Ltr!!
Raife!!

Raife

Its dual processor Matt Simis as in two 2.5ghz one on to of the other and it will be available by summer.

RicardoSmith- Oh in about 2.5 seconds...LOL.

Only joking, no idea since I have'nt even learned how to use the software yet but I might just get something like Merlin maybe also for a difference that is.

Ltr!!
Raife!!

Gerry

Raife, I haven't seen any dual pentium 4 boards, only dual xeon boards, which have a different socket ( socket 603 instead of 478 ). So I'm really not sure what you are referring to. Hopefully you are not referring to hyper threading, as this gives a -5% to +20% improvement ( depending on the code ), not a doubling of your chips power.

Raife

There not in stock wholesale yet but they do exist.

Well so I was told.

RicardoSmith

Originally posted by Raife
Its dual processor Matt Simis as in two 2.5ghz one on to of the other and it will be available by summer.

RicardoSmith- Oh in about 2.5 seconds...LOL.

Only joking, no idea since I have'nt even learned how to use the software yet but I might just get something like Merlin maybe also for a difference that is.

Ltr!!
Raife!!

The Apollo is the sample file. Just open it and hit the render button.