pub smoking ban- how will it effect you?

kinger

Hi....
I'm a student doing a study on the effects of the proposed smoking ban in pubs while food is being served.
I would like to know your opinion on it.
Are you a smoker or not?
Are you a publican or pub worker?
Is it fair on smokers?
Will it change pub culture?
Is it enforcable?

Feel free to rant............Regards.... Kinger.

Dr_Teeth

Are you a smoker or not?

- not.

Are you a publican or pub worker?

- no.

Is it fair on smokers?

- no, but tough.

Will it change pub culture?

- It is only in effect when food is being served isn't it? Hardly revolutionary.

Is it enforcable?

- Yes, but it won't be. Lots of smokers will be ignorant, lots of pub workers won't want to offend them.

Teeth.

John2002

Are you a smoker or not?

- smoke 20 a day + extras in the pub

Are you a publican or pub worker?

- I'm a drinker, pubs aren't for working in

Is it fair on smokers?

- I wouldn't mind if smoking was banned completely from pubs. I lived in California for a while and had to go outside for a smoke in the pubs there. It was grand because unlike here it wasn't cold or wet and I smoked less.

Will it change pub culture?

- Don't know, think it might take a bit from the homely atmosphere that a lot of rural pubs have.

Is it enforcable?

- With great difficulty.

LOOPY LOU

Are you a smoker or not?

Non-smoker

Are you a publican or pub worker?

No, wouldn't fancy working in a pub but wouldn't mind owning one!

Is it fair on smokers?

I think so, but I'm sure many smokers would disagree with me. It's not a total ban, only when food is being served, and if they can't cope with that, there are plenty of pubs that don't serve food for nicotine addicts to go to instead. Also as a non-smoker I wouldn't mind taking an hour or two out of a pub to go to a restaurant with a non-smoking section, for a bite to eat, unless of course I was on the piss then it would be never mind the food just pass me my next pint, which is the main reason we all go the pub really and not for food or for a smoke!

Will it change pub culture?

No don't think so

Is it enforcable?

Yes, but don't think that will happen.

flyz

Are you a smoker or not?

Smoker

Are you a publican or pub worker?

nope

Is it fair on smokers?

Not really but it isn't fair on non smokers to have that many smokers in the same room as them.
Plus there's nothing worse than a really smokey pub.

Will it change pub culture?

not in the long run but it will take time to adjust.

Is it enforcable?

Eventuall yes.

Bard

Are you a smoker or not?
I am a very light smoker - 2 to 3 a day at most, 10 to 20 (maybe) when I'm out (which is fairly rare).

Are you a publican or pub worker?
Occasionally -... I used to do part time bar work and will be doing more.
Is it fair on smokers?
Yes. - or at least those with some sort of common decency or regard for other patrons.
Will it change pub culture?
I wouldn't think so.
Is it enforcable?
With a lot of effort and co-operation from publicans - yes.

Beruthiel

Are you a smoker or not?

yes

Are you a publican or pub worker?

nope

Is it fair on smokers?

no, I would not go to a pub that you couldn't smoke in - however, it's not fair to non-smokers either...

Will it change pub culture?

not a hugh amount, but people who smoke will go where they can still smoke

Is it enforcable?

with great effort, yes.

Big Chief

Are you a smoker or not?

- smoker

Are you a publican or pub worker?

- no.

Is it fair on smokers?

- no, nothing better than a cig after a meal

Will it change pub culture?

- not as if most pubs serve food after lunch time anyway

Is it enforcable?

- it could be, if they used it like restaurants do it (i.e designated no smoking area and smoking area) then i think it could go down well as id be more than happy to use it that way) dont like smoking, sit in non smoking area blah you get the picture. Other wise i think it will be very very tough to enforce. I think my idea would be more feasible though, and the "smoking and no smoking areas" would only apply while food is being served ofcourse.

rubadub

Are you a smoker or not?
no

Are you a publican or pub worker?
no

Is it fair on smokers?
yes in so far as i think it is unfair on nonsmokers at the moment and they should be given the right since they are doing no harm. i wouldnt like people burning bits of plastic beside me in a resturaunt either

Will it change pub culture?
yes, it will divide people just like in offices. the smokers will leave in groups (like women going to toilets!) but they will probably go out even if they dont want a smoke.

Is it enforcable?
yes, they do a good job stopping marijuana being smoked so why not this?

Victor

Are you a smoker or not?

Non smoker

Are you a publican or pub worker?

No

Is it fair on smokers?

Yes

Will it change pub culture?

Perhaps, many people avoid pubs because of smoking, non-smokers are liekly to use pubs more

Is it enforcable?

Yes, Mcdonalds don't have an excessivce problem enforcing it in their restaurants.

NeVeR

Am i a smoker : NO
Do i work in a pub : YES 4 years now
Is it fair on smokers? : YES they shouldnt infect others with there fumes of death, Second hand smoke kills aswell
Will it change pub culture? : Yes it will ,, i work ina pub and it would,, But i dont care.
Is it enforcable?: Easy as Pie, if all pubs take a Zero policy on it then it would work ,,, Irish people love the drink and they will drink in pubs all the time. So if u want a smoke they will have to go outside. but it has to be a 100% efford by all Pub's/Club's etc

leeroybrown

Non-smoker.

Not a pub worker.

It's reasonably fair. They knw they'll eventually be weeded out.

Non hugely. A few subtle changes like people going out for a smoke ever half an hour. One possible change is a move away from bar counter drinking as there is a blanket ban on smoking at the counter for staff protection.

It will be difficult to enforce. To begn with in many pubs, it'll probably only be certain bar staff who chose to enforce it. (thus making them "very popular"). *Most* pubs stop people smoking dope but it is completely illegal after all.

rubadub

"*Most* pubs stop people smoking dope but it is completely illegal after all."

thats the point i mentioned too. smoking dope is easier at the moment since people smoke cigarettes anyway so it may appear they are smoking cigarettes. with a blanket ban it will be obvious is anybody is smoking and it will be "illegal" to smoke in pubs. it is not illegal to smuggle drink into a pub and drink it but you will be thrown out if caught! i dont think you will get "friendly" bar staff if they could face fines

krankykitty

Are you a smoker or not?
No

Are you a publican or pub worker?
No, but used to be, and I must say the smoke did annoy me a little

Is it fair on smokers?
Dont think so, because the pub is one of those last places where smokers arent restricted. I personally dont really like smoke, but TBH I accept that if I go into a pub, 9 times out of 10 it WILL be smoky. But thats the choice I make when I go into the pub.

Will it change pub culture?
Definitely! After all, youll have half the pub standing outside for their fags!

Is it enforcable?
For a while it will be, then the publicans will kick up stink as they will be missing out on money (ie the more time spent standing outside smoking, the less money spent on drink (probably)

Graemo

It'll end like air rage. A smoker who is drinking and is not alowed to smoke is a ticking bomb. I can see moderatly stressfull situations turning into a bloodbath a la Parnell Mooney on Chinese cultural night.

Big Chief

Originally posted by Graemo
It'll end like air rage. A smoker who is drinking and is not alowed to smoke is a ticking bomb. I can see moderatly stressfull situations turning into a bloodbath a la Parnell Mooney on Chinese cultural night.

imo this is how air rage got to be so big, when you could smoke on flights air rage wasnt half as bad as it was, but now almost every flight has banned smoking ppl just get drunk and end up getting over stressed (i know it sounds bad but thats the way it is unfortunately imo )

johnnynolegs

Are you a smoker or not? - nope
Are you a publican or pub worker? - nope
Is it fair on smokers? - yep
Will it change pub culture? - yep
Is it enforcable? - of course look at places like toronto where they have specialist places to go to if u wanna smoke

Kell

Are you a smoker- Yes

Are you a publican or pub worker- No

Is it fair on smokers- No

Will it change pub culture- Probably

Is it enforcable- Yes

The main thing that a lot of anti-smoking and health lobbyists have overlooked, is actually the absence of proper air conditioning/extraction in most pubs and restaurants. I have worked in loads of pubs restaurants in the past and there is only one place that I ever worked in that had a correct ventilation system in place and, it worked. There was no smoke cloud or smell of smoke ever. If all pubs were forced under health and safety regulations to have decent extraction and air conditioning in place there wouldn't be a problem and everyone, smokers and non-smokers alike could get on. Never thought of the air rage example before, but good point Graemo.

bonkey

Originally posted by Graemo
It'll end like air rage.

Except you can step outside a pub whenever you want. Planes are not quite so accomodating.

A smoker who is drinking and is not alowed to smoke is a ticking bomb.

Some smokers are, yes.

jc

rubadub

"A smoker who is drinking and is not alowed to smoke is a ticking bomb"
yeah like a time bomb which can be thrown out of a pub before it explodes. on a plane you are stuck with the person, not in a pub.

someone caught illegally smoking dope is thrown out of a pub or told to put it out or they will be thrown out. i cant see the difference if cigarettes were illegal. if i go to mcdonalds and start drinking beer i am asked to leave, if i dont cops are called. i have seen bus drivers call the gardai for people smoking on a bus.

Saruman

Are you a smoker or not?
Absolutly NOT

Are you a publican or pub worker?
No

Is it fair on smokers?
Wrong question, is it fair on those who dont smoke to be poisoned and suffocate from passive smoking?? Eh no so answers your question too!

Will it change pub culture?
No people go there to socialise and drink. Smoking is just something else that goes on. Personally i avoid pubs because of smiking... im sure there are a few others who either avoid or dont feel comfortable with the smoke.. Smoke free pubs would be a great idea.

Is it enforcable?
Yes but then again.. thats up to the publicans. They might think they wont want to loose drinkers but then agian.. if everyone enforces it (or face possible fines etc) then no one will loose customers as everyone still needs to drink!!
Eh i dont drink either but im rare.. most people will still go to their regular for a few with their mates.