Leased line pricing...

mayhem#

Can anyone give me an idea what the better deals for leased lines in Ireland are?

rymus

I've checked a few and WorldCom (despite their troubles) seem to be the best. I havent gotten a quote for Esat's wireless leased line service yet but I'm assuming worldcom will stay top of the heap

the Guru

Lease Lines cost a lot of money I would certainly go with a company that is going to be around in the future .
So Esat ,Eircom all there prices are competitive

spongebob

Worldcom will be around in the future

I agree with Rymus.....especilly if mayhem is not in Dublin in which case I would additionally recommend Colt and NTL

Worlcom are well worth investigating , very stable network and not growing to fast like ESAT outside Dublin at present.

M

yankinlk

do all these "other" companies metioned have to deal with eircom? besides esat who have wireless local loop (anybody used this yet?)

mayhem#

Originally posted by Muck
Worldcom will be around in the future

I agree with Rymus.....especilly if mayhem is not in Dublin in which case I would additionally recommend Colt and NTL

Hey, I'm in the arsehole of west Clare....

M.

spongebob

2 way VSAT if things get desperate.

No good for gaming or running servers on your site but perfectly all right for chucking loads of data around in slightly lagged real time.

M

mayhem#

Excuse me!
I've been on 2-way sat since the beginning of this year.....

rymus

Originally posted by yankinlk
do all these "other" companies metioned have to deal with eircom? besides esat who have wireless local loop (anybody used this yet?)

afaik your leased line provider have to rent/buy the local tail circut from eircom. Thats the line from your home/office to the exchange. This pushes the price up quite nicely... or so Worldcom would have me believe.

I know a guy that has a 512k WLL leased line from Esat at the moment... very nice performance on it (as you would expect really).. Must find out what he pays for it

spongebob

emm Wheres Dah Rymus , I knew they had a licence but had not heard of any deployment.

Some of west Clare (Ballyvaughan) is within WLL distance of Galway City as it happens. Strictly speaking WLL is a wireless Analog/IDSN speed connection. A 512K symmetrical is an FWA link (Fixed Wireless Access) which is what Mayhem wants I assume.

M

mayhem#

Originally posted by Muck
Some of west Clare (Ballyvaughan) is within WLL distance of Galway City as it happens. Strictly speaking WLL is a wireless Analog/IDSN speed connection. A 512K symmetrical is an FWA link (Fixed Wireless Access) which is what Mayhem wants I assume.
M

Now that's information that I can work with!
Tell me more!!

M.

spongebob

via the ESB mast which could have aerials pointing towards Inis Oírr and Fanore and may be supporting Digifone or Meteor or both in Ballyvaughan already. The ESB are not offering retail product yet.

There is the Eircon mast in Inverin which could be used to support FWA to all the Islands along with Doolin and Fanore but not Ballyvaughan. Eircon have an FWA licence along with Esat and Chorus(smirk) but Eircon are reluctant to offer FWA

You could wait for Leap !

Many of the locations above are in the Burren National Park where 'unsightly cabling' is frowned upon and Eircon know this. Ring Dúchas about it

M

mayhem#

Muck,

Is there anyone in any of the Telco's that you know f who I could talk to about this?
Where are you located?

M.

spongebob

Rymus may know someone who knows someone,

I don't know anyone in a telco (telco with a licence) who could be of help here. Only chorus esat and ecircon have the licences

I don't even know where you are as it happens, west clare is long.

M

mayhem#

I'm up on the east flank of Mount Callan near Miltown Malbay....

spongebob

the burren and cliffs of moher and aran islands will block any attempt to relay across the bay

u know there is an 8Mbit Private Pipe to that desalination wind farm in Inis Meáin , don't u

M

mayhem#

Could set up a relay on top of Mt. Callan.
Straight LOS to Galway!
Didn't know about the 8Mbit pipe into Inis Meáin.
Wtf do they need that for?!

M.

spongebob

something to do with

desalination

LOS to Galway City you mean? It would be 50Km as the crow flies, which is a tad excessive. FWA will carry 15-20Km which will hop across Galway bay.

M

mayhem#

Could set up relays though...
If the bandwidth is a-plenty I would share it anyways...

Snowbat

Originally posted by Muck
FWA will carry 15-20Km

Source?

That figure may well be based on 'flat' ground, where the natural curvature of the earth determines the horizon, and therefore maximum LOS. If one station is on a mountain, it's a whole different ballgame.