Unreal Tournament 2003 first impressions

CombatCow

Well i finished downloading the demo from www.fasterfiles.com going @ an average of 65KB/sec whitch was pretty sweet bout a hour ago.ne way the games is da dogs bollokz the graphics really are incredable evan though they can only b set to medium due to the demo size restrictions.the ragdoll physics are sooo sweet especially with low gravity on.iv tried all the levels + game types and they are all ill.the Weapons are hummm.. dam sweet my fav is prob the link gun or shock rifle.ill give it a go over da net 2morrow cause ( holy crap ) it's 5:32 am .LOL nehoo it's well worth the 100mg download and puts all existing games graphics to shame.( yes evan halo ) ps.the grass n trees look v.nice not that youll be lookin @ them much.after u start wasting the bots ( o yeah the AI seems to be good but ill have to play it more on a harder difficulty to put it to the test )

well thats it gotta get 5-6 hours sleep than back to the grindstone ( ut2k3 ) loz COMBATCOW

Anima

Yeah i thought it was good to if not a little bit laggy though. I only have a gf 2 gts and ran it with every setting turned down and gave me 20-30 fps. Not to bad i suppose. Also i was a little disappointed with the rocket launcher in that you can only fire a max of 3 rockets instead of the 6-7 in the other UT.

Jak

Seems nice enough, but not totally stunning.

Will need to tweak the effects quite a bit as I didn't like the way it looked on the first few runs.

Sound was a little annoying too.

Second map was nice.

Bots above Masterful whipped me in open play.

I dunno, tis too early too say and I am still waiting to play online, but right now it seems a little too cartoony for me and not as sharp and shiny as I had hoped.

JAK.

ps- apologies for useless description.

Edit: System is gf4, 1800 athlon, 256 266hz ram btw

DiscoStu

Just finished playing it now. my opinion is, WOW, the graphics are amazing even running at 512x324 as was also pointed out the knocking about of bodies adds a nice touch. dm plays the same as ut which is always a good thing what about the assault rife a bit a nod to halo me thinks. im now off to try and insert an agp card ito a pci slot so i can crqnk up the resolution. apparently all you need is some lube and a mallet

Jak

Pretty impressed with the CTF - and the AI worked pretty well in it.

As for the Bomb run mod - tis actually good crack.

Really want to play online tho ..

Magic Monkey

The CTF level is too small, IMO. Bombing-run is Ok, Deathmatch levels are where it shines.

A good GFX card is a must to show off the effects (reflection of metal, water, grass, etc), and a fast processor, RAM, etc, otherwise you'll just be annoyed at how badly it runs.

There is no reload function (thankfully, as how many times have I been killed in other FPS's whilst reloading a weapon... ) - and the weapons are pretty cool, the Sniper/Ligntning rifle is a bit strange though. Models are nice, the "rag-doll" physics are amazing/hilarious.

Jak, what GeForce4 you got?

adnans

does that guy say "Head Shot" or " Ketchup" when you take someone's head off? need getting used to the maps since they are so spacious and full of eyecandy, otherwise, fantastic demo.

runs fine on my pc in 1024 x 768 full detail. ive took some screens for those not priviliged to play it already.

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didn't have a chance to play on the internet since it seems broken. Epic are trying to fix it right now. its well worth the 100mb download if your system can handle the game.

cant wait for other games using this engine, Rainbow Six: Raven Shield, Deus Ex2, ahhhhhh

adnans

adnans

Originally posted by Jak
Will need to tweak the effects quite a bit as I didn't like the way it looked on the first few runs.

which drivers are you using? there is a problem with the new 40.41 drivers when playing the demo.

3.6 NVIDIA 40.41 drivers

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The NVIDIA 40.41 drivers are known to have visual flaws and performance problems (hitching) with the Unreal Tournament 2003 Demo which are not present in the 30.82 drivers. The issue has been addressed by NVIDIA and future drivers released by NVIDIA will contain the appropriate fixes.

If you are currently running the 40.41 drivers please either downgrade to 30.82 or install newer drivers when available.

ive noticed some twitching during the game. hope Nvidia gets down and sorts this out.

adnans

DiscoStu

odd im running 40.41s and havent noticed anything. i thinks ill stick with em even if ut2003 dosent run at its full potential.

off topic: will facing worlds be in the final version? it the best ctf map ever made.

Spiffing

Same as UT but with better graphics.

BKtje

Yer Face will be in the full game.
Its a bit different tho. (original face sucked tho )
They also remade lava and one or two others i cant remember.

Directx8.1b has been released. Apparently it improves your ut2k3 prerformance slightly.

BKtje

Btw you all know about the adrenaline system?

Once you get 100 adren hit:
4 times forward for speed.
4 times back for regen.
2back 2forward for berserk. (damage amp i think)
2left 2 right (or was it other way round) for invis/transparency.

Venom

The sniper sight is very cool.
GFX really look the biz and I cant wait to get the full version.

KdjaCL

Never been a fan of unreal/quake (dont like laser guns )

BNut just played UT3 on wireplay and OMG its a blast a bit to fast for me but im sure i will get used to it

kdja

DiscoStu

has anyone got any uk server ips? reaaaly want try this out online.

Dcully

Great Demo,1600x1400 res all gfx maxed out and getting 85 fps WOW.
I prefer realism shooters like CS,MOHAAand DOD.
Its pure arcade fun,Graphics make all others look poor, Mafia has great gfx alsobut UT2003 is a different level.
Stunning shadows,water,metal everything is moving such as those fans spinning and casting a spinning shadow on the ground,walls and even your weapon.
Pixel shading,bumpmapping,envoirenmental mapping,are all here .

P4 1.5,384mb,geforce4 TI4200

KdjaCL

has anyone got any uk server ips? reaaaly want try this out online.

IN the in game browser has the usual lot
Wireplay
Jolt
Blueyonder
and 40 a ping ,netcode seems a lot better than anything else out.


Kdja

Pugsley

Played it at a mates house and am going to download now, loved it.

The graphics are brilliant on full (or medium in full version,i cant wait to see it at max..), and the fun you can have with dead bodies is great!

I also LOVE the crunching sound it makes when you fall, if you just towards the cap point on the bomb run map though the laser floor your body will bounch down off several steel bar's and make the coolest sounds and the 'rag doll' physics is bloody hilarious when your falling, great entertainment

I also love the new shield function on the new melee weapon, great for flag running.

CombatCow

humm just read this sounds intresting.

You can get Adrenaline by scoring in a match or fragging a lot of people or picking up these pills that are scattered throughout the map. Once you have 100 points, you can perform combat-style combo moves. For example, back, back, forward, forward makes you go Berserk and you can fire twice as fast. There?s also invisibility, speed, and a defense combo. It?s a way to give you an actual bonus from all the multi-kills and killing sprees.


COMBATCOW >:^)

Pugsley

Btw you all know about the adrenaline system?

Once you get 100 adren hit:
4 times forward for speed.
4 times back for regen.
2back 2forward for berserk. (damage amp i think)
2left 2 right (or was it other way round) for invis/transparency.

humm just read this sounds intresting.

You can get Adrenaline by scoring in a match or fragging a lot of people or picking up these pills that are scattered throughout the map. Once you have 100 points, you can perform combat-style combo moves. For example, back, back, forward, forward makes you go Berserk and you can fire twice as fast. There?s also invisibility, speed, and a defense combo. It?s a way to give you an actual bonus from all the multi-kills and killing sprees.


COMBATCOW >:^)

Yes,we know

DiscoStu

for some reason the ingame server browser crashes half way through pinging the list. so i cant get to much of the servers. has this happened to anyone else?

Practical

Just got it there ,
Played for about 10 mins and its looks and plays very well

9/10

kaimera

Best 6 hours spent d/l somethink!

Absolutely classic.

Quake is DeAd!

Runs like a dream...800x600x32

P4 1.9 64MB GF2 mx 256RaM

Dustaz

Boring. Give us something new please.

po0k

I've only seen screen shots so far, so the jury's still out bht bht, but it doens't look pants-wettingly great from here.
Sure, the models are highly detailed and they ahve better sketetal physics etc.
I just hope it plays well.

BKtje

Originally posted by DiscoStu
for some reason the ingame server browser crashes half way through pinging the list. so i cant get to much of the servers. has this happened to anyone else?

The Masterserver is overhwhelmed. Epic didnt expect this many people to play the demo so they werent prepared for the load the mster server would have to deal with. A bit silly of Epic imo.

deco

Doom 3 will own your a$ses...

having said that Unreal 2002-03 is pretty sweet....

Like it loads...

Pugsley

I think most people agree with you deco that doom3 will be unbelievable, but this will do us until its released

Dcully

BEEN PLAYING IT ALL AFTERNOON ONLINE WITH 56K,netcode is outstanding almost as good as Half-life netcode.
Smooth throughout on a number of servers including American ones.I got host IPs from various forums for guys running servers since Master server is down,well it was an hour ago.
Great game so far and absolutely destroys any game in Gfx department.I was playing on servers with about 10 guys in game and it feels a lot more tactical ,stealthy and strategic than UT and Q3A.
So far i love it.

Jak

Originally posted by adnans
which drivers are you using? there is a problem with the new 40.41 drivers when playing the demo.

Not the latest ones anyhows - I will check and look for updates/patches tomorrow.

The more I play it, it is pretty good. Usual thing is just the fps concern .. With everythin on fps jumps between 60 normal and <30 in fights (granted I am on a hacked up gf4 - the mx440) but I simply can't play the game well with everything on - just gets too cluttered and takes away a lil from the gameplay - so I knock everything off and it plays well staying at about 50 in fights.

Hopefully tweaks and updates will follow though.

KdjaCL

Still too damn fast trying hard to get a grip on the speed of the other players and myself

How the hell do ppl shoot me at that speed???LOL

Must get better.....

kdja

Sand

The more and more i play it.....the more i hate it - the weak pansy weapons are just laughable - might as well throw away your shock rifles and throttle them with your bare hands.

Dcully

The more and more i play it.....the more i hate it - the weak pansy weapons are just laughable - might as well throw away your shock rifles and throttle them with your bare hands.

Yeah whatever,so you say a rocket or three in the face is a pansy weapon?
Ive come to a conclusion about those whinging about it,
Either they have a crappy PC that cant handle the best graphics ever ,or simply prefer realism shooters like me,ie CS,DOD etc.
Just play UT2003 as its meant to be ,ie fast-paced action shooter and youll be fine.
As ive said in a previous post in this thread it runs amazing for me on my PC P4 1.5,384mb,GF4 TI 4200,ive also tried it on a P2 400,128mb and Geforce 2 surprisingly fluid ive got to say,1024x768 res and it looks great on it too

Sand

rocket or three in the face is a pansy weapon?

Youll probably need a rocket or 5, and throw in a few kitchen sinks while youre at it:D

Either they have a crappy PC that cant handle the best graphics ever ,or simply prefer realism shooters like me,ie CS,DOD etc.

Graphics arent that important to me- ill be turning down most of them anyway - My PC is holding up well under the strain of UT2 so far, gameplay is my acid test of a game. Not into realism shooters either - played Tac Ops a lot for a while but i hear thats not really considered realistic on the same scale as CS.

Just play UT2003 as its meant to be ,ie fast-paced action shooter and youll be fine.

Thats probably it - I came into UT2 from UT assuming it would be like UT - Its not though, hence im dissapointed. Personal taste cant be accounted for though. I would highly reccomend the game to people who like Quake 3 though - it would be their cup of tea id imagine, not mine sadly. Ill be sticking with UT till TNSe gets round to releasing that UT mod for 2K3.

Dcully

Totally agree ,gameplay is what counts most,i feel UT2003 has this in bucketfulls,i dont like huge amounts of players in a server i prefer small amounts ie 8,10,12 this way its more tactical and stealthy,instead of Mayhem.

CuLT

LOL

You expected it to be like unreal?
Thats like saying you expected Q3 to be like Half-life.
Its an "I KEEL YOU TO DEATH NOW" game, not bloody Deus Ex.

This game rox. WP to the ut2k3 team, they earned their wages.

Sand

You expected it to be like unreal?

Nah to be like UT - something to do with the title of it, Unreal Tournament 2003 - some strange connection to Unreal Tournament there, cant quite put my finger on it:D

Like when Half Life 2 comes along (seeing as you mention it) youd be a little.... concerned if it was basically "Aliens Vs Predator 3" but called Half Life 2 to try and sucker Half Life fans into buying it. AvP fans would love it, but HL fans would be wondering "this is the sequel to Half Life? WTF?":)

BKtje

Played my first war of this last night.
Must say it was much better than the servers.
was a 4v4 ctf game. Really enjoyed it.
We happened to win 17-2 which im sure helped.
They hadnt played the game much i gathered after

I take abck all i said about the tele. I think it fits into the game perfectly now.

full forward

Hi everyone,
Its time for me to upgrade. Ive been waiting for these next gen games to appear and UT2K3 is the first. Does the ti4600 have any advantage over the ti4200 for this game?

Dooom

Is there a way to keep the dead bodies? instead of them just disentagrating? Brilliant grfx by the way - 80 fps on the 1024 res. with everything on full/normal! cant wait till the full game!

Dcully

Its time for me to upgrade. Ive been waiting for these next gen games to appear and UT2K3 is the first. Does the ti4600 have any advantage over the ti4200 for this game?

Since im in the computer business,i got the opportunity to test out all Creatives versions of GF4,MX400,MX440,TI4200,4400,4600
on my PC before actually purchasing ,heres what i found.
MX cards are good but nowhere near as good as TI cards.
I settled for TI4200 64mb [memory is faster on 64mb model than 128.Also i can overclock my 4200 faster than 4600s default speed and was totally stable.4600 and 4400 werent very stable though.
While benchmarking with 3D MARK 2001 there was only 3-5 fps in the difference between all 3 cards unclocked and at various gfx and resolution settings.
Ive yet to find a game that required me to overclock my TI 4200.
Games like UT2003,Commanche4 and Morrowind look totally different on a GF4 than any other card,since the games ive mentioned use vertex and pixel shading the GF4 loves them.
Basically this means theres lots of stunning water effects with stunning photorealistic reflections on them which move according to the waters movement.You havent seen great pixel shading until you have seen the water and ripples in Morrowind,its absolutely incredible.
Go for 4200 Full Forward ,the few extra fps dont warrant an extra 100-150 euros.
Im getting 80 fps at 1600x1400 gfx maxed out with UT2003,ithe card can pump the res up even more but my monitor limit is 1600x1400.If i go down to 1024x768 im getting 100-120 fps,some say a res higher than this is overkill,
If youve got a decent CPU a GF4 TI will be a great upgrade,if your cpu is say 600 mhz it could be a bottleneck.

Mine is P4 1.5,284mb,GF4 TI 4200,win ME
Good luck with whatever you do.

spooky donkey

well i think its great!

I dont think its the next develepoment in game design its very like the 1st game with a few more bells and whistles!

full forward

Thanks DC. You confirmed my suspicions. I’m going for a full upgrade using the ti4200 and a P4 2.53.
One more question about UT2003. Does this game make use of 5.1 sound or is that only for DVD's?

BKtje

It does make use of full 5.1 and Eax.

Dcully

Thanks DC. You confirmed my suspicions. I’m going for a full upgrade using the ti4200 and a P4 2.53.

Bloody hell FF GF4 4200 with 2.5 Gig "OH MY GOD"The thought just gives me a chill up and down my spine.
That thing will gobble up 10 Xbox,cubes and PS2s and spit them out in 1000s of pieces.
Im coming over to your house when Doom3 arrives!!!!!!!:eek: