back 2 school

LegacyUser

back in school tomorrow, BAH another year of early mornings; loads of homework, narky teachers, i dont think i can take it! ive been such a lazy git all summer it will be hard to get used to , luckily this is my last year in the place

cournioni

All I have to say on this subject is that I'm glad I'm finished! School was good craic tho. I'll always miss that. Feck the teachers tho. Make the most of yer friendships in school too. You'll find that most of them will disappear when you leave.

leeroybrown

I always hated going back to school too. (Years ago now)

Once you've been back a few days and you're back into the swing of things it becomes as routine as it always was. And you get to talk to all your friends and annoy those pesky teachers again.

At least you can always fly to boards for help in your hour of need.

The Gopher

Every year in my school in the first few weeks we get a ton of homework that you cant really avoid doing.Every year they would tel us that the"fun was over for example in first year we would hear
"Right lads,national school gave you an easy ride-now your into the harder stuff".It remained hard for a fortnight,before we all realised that its alot easier to do no Homework and get away with it than it was in national school.
Second Year-Right lads,in 1st year you were all new and so we went alot easier on you,but the junior cert is coming and we need to get serious"Same story-hard work for a fortnight,doss the rest of the year
thrid-Right,the JC is round the corner and weve got to get studying.Blah blah blah...........
It happened every year!!!!
I really loved moving from national to secondary school because of the less strict rules(for example most teachers tolerated swearing-in nat school it would have been a mortal sin)
Not having to do homework(Id typically arive home,do no H/W 99% of nights and leave a couple of books on the table to make it look like id just finished off my H/W;) )
Its just alot more of a laugh in secondary.

Mystic Fibrosis

Originally posted by The Gopher
Every year in my school in the first few weeks we get a ton of homework that you cant really avoid doing.Every year they would tel us that the"fun was over for example in first year we would hear
"Right lads,national school gave you an easy ride-now your into the harder stuff".It remained hard for a fortnight,before we all realised that its alot easier to do no Homework and get away with it than it was in national school.
Second Year-Right lads,in 1st year you were all new and so we went alot easier on you,but the junior cert is coming and we need to get serious"Same story-hard work for a fortnight,doss the rest of the year
thrid-Right,the JC is round the corner and weve got to get studying.Blah blah blah...........
It happened every year!!!!
I really loved moving from national to secondary school because of the less strict rules(for example most teachers tolerated swearing-in nat school it would have been a mortal sin)
Not having to do homework(Id typically arive home,do no H/W 99% of nights and leave a couple of books on the table to make it look like id just finished off my H/W;) )
Its just alot more of a laugh in secondary.

I see. ANd how long have you been living in a box?

LegacyUser

How can I go back to school after such a sucessful summer @ work. Like i'm going to canada now on a business trip in 4 weeks time...ah doestn' make sense being at school when i can be out there making the millions...but guess hav 2 go to schoool, for my own good

Nevyn

hey it could be worse i'm packing my four year old off tomorrow for his first day. If I have a hard time watching him and his sister just how secure am gonna feel knowing that there is 1 teacher for 30 kids

Pepe LeFrits

God school was such a load of shite. So glad its over. 4 years of it would have been quite enough, instead i got 14. AGGH!

cournioni

Originally posted by donaloconnor
How can I go back to school after such a sucessful summer @ work. Like i'm going to canada now on a business trip in 4 weeks time...ah doestn' make sense being at school when i can be out there making the millions...but guess hav 2 go to schoool, for my own good

Talk to anyone who has left school early and they will say that they have regretted it unless they were severly beaten with a golf club in school. If you leave to find a new job you'll just be bored for the rest of your life with no LC behind you. Your better off sticking with school, going to college and seeing the world before you go into the hard work. You only live once and working is no way to live the early days of your life.

Mark

back in school tomorrow

Im glad to say Im not going back to 5th year till the 16th. Tis a new school and isnt sounding too bad at all...

phobos

My personal opinion is that school is important but teachers don't make it a desirable environment for you to be in. But I don't blame the teachers, I blame the other muppets in your class that have a problem with authority, and take up your teachers time, when they are supposed to be teaching you. This gets worse as the teacher gains more experience. At the start of their careers you were people to them, who they gave a sh1t about, and they honestly wanted to see you do well. But as time progresed they just had to handle a few muppets too many, and they start to have no respect for who they are teaching.

I had an old teacher of mine tell me in the last 2 years that, he and his work colleagues are loosing a war against the students, and the interested ones are loosing out. At school I had a completely different outlook than I do now, but that's only because I have experienced college. A true learning environment, and a place where people really have a desire to learn. But in school you think having a doss is a good thing, because there is no real motivation to do anything worthwhile. So why should you, you may ask. I know I had that very same mentality when I was in school, but that changed and I really got on track when I was put in a place with fewer muppets and people teaching me that were genuinely interested in seeing me do well.

So the moral of my story is people not liking school is the aftermath of a ripple effect, that starts with the poor upbringing of a few people in your class. They are not disciplined properly at home, rebel against your teachers, perhaps bully you. The teacher in the mean time starts to hate their job, and looses respect for all students (to a degree), and all this negative energy wanders towards your subconcious, and sooner or later the place where you go to learn, is transformed in to a place that you hang out in for a few hours a day, fooling your parents in to thinking that everything is going according to plan.

But it's difficult to see this from my perspective while you're still there. But consider what I've said. I'm not saying it's the complete answer but many agree its a good theory as to why people don't like school or take it as seriousy as they should. But it's important to note, that for 99% of ye, it's not your fault that it has gone to this.

;-phobos-)

NeoSlicerZ

Originally posted by phobos
My personal opinion is that school is important but teachers don't make it a desirable environment for you to be in. But I don't blame the teachers, I blame the other muppets in your class that have a problem with authority, and take up your teachers time, when they are supposed to be teaching you. This gets worse as the teacher gains more experience. At the start of their careers you were people to them, who they gave a sh1t about, and they honestly wanted to see you do well. But as time progresed they just had to handle a few muppets too many, and they start to have no respect for who they are teaching.

I had an old teacher of mine tell me in the last 2 years that, he and his work colleagues are loosing a war against the students, and the interested ones are loosing out. At school I had a completely different outlook than I do now, but that's only because I have experienced college. A true learning environment, and a place where people really have a desire to learn. But in school you think having a doss is a good thing, because there is no real motivation to do anything worthwhile. So why should you, you may ask. I know I had that very same mentality when I was in school, but that changed and I really got on track when I was put in a place with fewer muppets and people teaching me that were genuinely interested in seeing me do well.

So the moral of my story is people not liking school is the aftermath of a ripple effect, that starts with the poor upbringing of a few people in your class. They are not disciplined properly at home, rebel against your teachers, perhaps bully you. The teacher in the mean time starts to hate their job, and looses respect for all students (to a degree), and all this negative energy wanders towards your subconcious, and sooner or later the place where you go to learn, is transformed in to a place that you hang out in for a few hours a day, fooling your parents in to thinking that everything is going according to plan.

But it's difficult to see this from my perspective while you're still there. But consider what I've said. I'm not saying it's the complete answer but many agree its a good theory as to why people don't like school or take it as seriousy as they should. But it's important to note, that for 99% of ye, it's not your fault that it has gone to this.

;-phobos-)

Hear Hear , stupid fúcking principle of collective responsiblity seems to be the rage in my school

The Gopher

I disagree Phobos-some new teachers are a pain in the hole.We have a teacher who while only about 25 is a real bitch altogether.Shes not even able to read very well-and her an english teacher!!!!She often skips big words while reading from a book(shes my religion teacher).And another young english teacher,while fairly sound,also isnt the best reader in the world.But as for our religion teacher-talk about outdated.Contraception,sex before marriage etc etc are all still evil apparently:rolleyes: Live in the real world for chrissakes!Even alot of senior churchmen realise contraception is necessary(particularly those with nice young housekeepers).Why do you think that Irish people had a few dozen kids in the old days?Thats partly why irelands economy was stunted for so long-one kid gets the farm and the rest emigrate-leaving no industrial workers to build the economy.
And shes the worst tempered bitch in the world.And she has a tash:D

phobos

For the ripple theory in my last post I used a hypothetical example. But in your post take for example, you described teachers that are anything from incapable to outdated. Why do you think these people are still in their jobs?. The reason I think they are still there is because the people that put them there, don't give a crap, about the quality of your education. The motive for them not caring, goes back to my ripple theory, and not so much my hypothetical example.

There is too much wrong out there for me nail the problem on the head, but being realistic, I have thrown an idea (or proposed a theory) to ye, which I believe to be true. Now I'm not saying that it's right, because that would be stupid. There is far too much to take in to consideration for everyone to agree with what I said. But at the same time, do you not think I may be on to something?

cheers for the reply

;-phobos-)

leeroybrown

The biggest problem these days in my opinion is that if a pupil tries to burn the school down the parent will probably blame the teachers and threaten to sue before they even think of the fact that its their own little satanic bástard child that is the problem.

I wouldn't teach in a secondary school because I wouldn't feel the need to bother with the little bastards education if they didn't respect me.

phobos

Originally posted by leeroybrown
I wouldn't teach in a secondary school because I wouldn't feel the need to bother with the little bastards education if they didn't respect me.

Exactly my point!

;-phobos-)

Crash

One of the main problems IMO is that once a school hires a teacher it can be very hard to fire said teacher, due to the unions kicking up shit.

For instance, in my old school we had a 25yr old teacher who couldn't talk, was unwilling to wait while people took notes she told us to take and could not count from 35 to 43 (and she was in business). Also, whenever she got stuff wrong, she blamed it on us. Every people in our school complained cus we were way behind and didnt want to be completely screwed. Every parent complained for same reasons. Yet thet school did, and couldnt do, anything bout it. eventually, she changed schools of her own accord.

The Gopher

Here here Phobos.My ma was telling me that in her day alot of her teachers would stay back an hour extra once a week to help any student with a problem with the subject.Nowadays the teachers are running out the doors like Linford Christie the second the bell strikes.Only one of our teachers collects homework regularly,and another does so monthly or so.Now,this is good for me at the minute as it means that I only have to do 1% of the homework Im given(:) )but perhaps Ill regret it if im a binman when im older.But the teachers these days really dont give a ****e-its all about getting their big paycheque.And on that subject,its shameful that they refuse to do an hour of voluntary work every few weeks.My school has about 45 teachers and their was seldom more than two supervising on any one day.Which means that a teacher had to give up their lunchbreak roughly once a month Id say.For christ sakes Ive spent more time on detention during lunchbreaks the lazy cnuts!!!!

sceptre

Originally posted by The Gopher
But as for our religion teacher-talk about outdated.Contraception,sex before marriage etc etc are all still evil apparently:rolleyes: Live in the real world for chrissakes!

In most Irish secondary schools (at least the ones owned by the church - most of them except for the comprehensives (old techs)), the teachers have to follow church line on teachings a lot of the time. Very silly imho but then that's what you get when you still rely on church land for your schools.

Last religion class I ever had our fairly pompous religion teacher/vice principal asked us if there were any questions we wanted to ask (it being perhaps our last chance and all that). After doing a convincing impression of being asleep for six years, I asked a fairly technical question about Humanum Vitae (last Church issue on the contraception issue) and the attitude of JP 1 to it when he was Patriarch of Venice before becoming Pope. Fairly lively discussion ensued. Could have been an interesting few years if opportunities like that had arisen earlier (but given the policy in our school (regular day school mind you) any such discussion would probably have been stopped in its tracks from the beginning)

NeMiSiS

I liked school from he point of view of friends you made and certain classes like religon which wasnt so much about religon but a kinda discussion every week about life and the worlds littles woes..

What i didnt like were the teachers and how you were taught,you dont imo learn very much at all in school .. you learn how to remeber and regurgitate things that will never be of any significence to you when you leave or when the clock hits 4 for that matter.

I think learning itself should be more practical and hands on so students see how they are going to use what they are learning in their life while going to school and after leaving..like labs in college say.I found it very hard to learn with some person just standing at the top of a class saying "write this down remeber it and then write it again in your leaving cert" you loose interest after about five minutes.I know its hard for teachers to find enthusism about what they are trying to teach when theres a few assholes just yabbering away throughout an entire class,but they have to ask,why are they bored ?

I also didnt like that the whole 'sir' and miss' thing and 'master' for that matter,especially when your 17 going on 18 and your addressed as 'Mr/Miss whatever' in a patronizing fashion,that doesnt make me respect someone,what makes me respect someone is them being on an equal footing as me and respect my views weither they be right or wrong,and just respect me as a person, and not think of me as some understudy to their masterful all knowing mind.

I also found it was very hard for teachers not to be 'right' ,when i had gripes with certain teachers and i tried to take them to the headmaster i was told it must be something im doing to be to have made the teacher behave that way.One guy in paticular was a real asshole to me and it ended up being taken to the schoolboard,i had a decent guidence counsueller that believed me that this guy was singling me out for no reason,the teacher in the end was 'disciplined' turns out he taught my dad years before and didnt like him either.

But the evilest bastard by far was my mechanical drawing teacher who failed me on every single test i did with him and kept telling me i should leave the class..i couldnt understand this at all as what i was doing looked no different than any other persons in the class.By chance i was getting maths grinds and the maths grind teacher also did mechanical drawing i showed him my tests from the past 6 months and it turned out the bastard was marking me incorrect on purpose ! litterally all i did right was marked wrong and all i did wrong was marked right..I got an A something or other in the end..

I dont think the education system is up to scratch by a longshot I think the gov and everyone involved in the education system has to look at exactly how people learn and better ways to facilitate people who just cant 'write remember write again' and how ****ers like some of the teachers ive had can be allowed to teach, i could honestly say 90% of what ive learned has either been from the net or the discovery channels

Bit of a rant sry

NeM

kmot90

ah school is grand!

biko

That's one crazy bump

School was far from the best days of my life, it left me in a deep depression for a long time. Bullies, homework, the whole stink of authority in the place (and I wasn't even a bad student - quite good actually). I almost left in 5th year but am glad now that I kept it on - basically because I wouldn't have gotten anywhere in life.

The fact that my secondary school was basically a GAA training camp didn't help me at all when it came to the actual purpose of going to school! The members of the GAA teams in the school got away with murder from the principal. Plus I had no interest in sport either so that made matters worse. I went to secondary school in Kerry btw.... see the connection??

I'd much rather where I am now!

EDIT: Wow, didn't spot the date of the original post... that's some bump alright.

kmot90

lol

hoolio

Karsini wrote:

I went to secondary school in Kerry btw....

the sem?

LegacyUser

'I still have nightmares about having to sit irish exams for leaving cert!!

out of school 12 years now!!!'

spurious

Unregistered wrote:

back in school tomorrow, BAH another year of early mornings; loads of homework, narky teachers, i dont think i can take it! ive been such a lazy git all summer it will be hard to get used to , luckily this is my last year in the place

For a minute I thought that was my Principal posting.:D

Within a couple of weeks it will be like you were never away. There tends to be a certain amount of 'it is what you make it' about school.

davyjose

The OP is probably now in a Full-time job

Bart : Aw, I'm going to miss the whole summer.
Homer : Don't worry, boy. When you get a job like me, you'll miss every summer.

leeroybrown

Somewhat OT: Holy Jefferson - this must be close to the record for an idiot resurrecting a thread. I clicked on it and was staring at a post I made five years ago.

Steve_o

I miss the craic in school, causing all sorts of hassle for the teachers, course we thought we were the big men, actually when i look back on it, i was an awful bollox in school....:D

LegacyUser

Unregistered wrote:

back in school tomorrow, BAH another year of early mornings; loads of homework, narky teachers, i dont think i can take it! ive been such a lazy git all summer it will be hard to get used to , luckily this is my last year in the place

We all had to do it so suck it up!

Marksie

Kmot banned 1 week for bumping a very old thread.
Any more bumps and it will be longer