********* Orange Society VS Catholic Ireland??

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Note: Where ********* = Fr££-May-son


33,000 members in Ireland, so are there any bad apples or are *********s all very good?

IN THE 1970s there were allegations in connection with unsolved bomb attacks in Italy that secret service agents, clandestine *********s (members of the P2 Masonic Lodge), mafiosi and right-wing extremists were conspiring to destabilise Italy to provoke a coup. Renewed "P2" activity was reported in 1992 and connections between the mafia and *********s were openly acknowledged




Although *********s speak fervently about how moralistic their organisation is, that does not mean it is immune to a few bad apples. The late John Furze, the senior figure at the Cayman Islands end of the secretive Ansbacher Deposits operation (used to defraud the Irish Revenue of millions of pounds from the 1970s to the mid 1990s), was a *********


*********ry denies the Catholic faith. God commanded, "You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve." *********ry does not acknowledge Christ's revelation of the Blessed Trinity or anything else in His public revelation. Jesus said, Jn 14:6 "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me." In fact, it pointedly rejects Christianity as a truth.

The Scottish Rite, an appendant Masonic body, in its Knight Kadosh (30th) degree, requires that the candidate stab a skull with a papal tiara, and a skull on which is a crown, saying, "Down with imposture! Down with crime!" In the fourth oath the Knight Kadosh again focuses on the "cruel and cowardly Pontiff, who sacrificed to his ambition the illustrious order of those Knights Templar of whom we are the true successors." All present then trample on the papal tiara while shouting "Down with imposture!" *********ry's conflict with the Catholic Church is veiled in the Blue Lodge, but here the veil is lifted to reveal hatred.
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By 1653, Catholic resistance in Ireland was at an end. Catholic land-owners were largely dispossessed, as Cromwell had been using confiscated land to pay off the back pay he owed to the army. The English had completely subjugated the entire island, by a combination of massacres, pestilence, and starvation which was estimated to have killed between half and two-thirds of the Irish people. Thousands of others were shipped off into slavery in the American colonies and the West Indies. Those who could began to flee to Europe.

Worse followed when the English Parliament declared that after May 1, 1654, under penalty of death, no Irish could live east of the River Shannon and only those who could prove they had not been rebels could own land west of the Shannon. All the land east of the Shannon was divided among Protestant settlers.
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Cromwell started out 1654 by making peace with the Dutch in April. He also established the first *********'s Lodge in London, which is why the Catholics still don't trust the *********s (because it was started by Cromwell). In September, the first Protectorate Parliament was seated. The first thing they wanted to do was rewrite the Constitution. Cromwell booted them out after a year and resorted to open military government, dividing England into 11 districts, each administered by a major-general.

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The triumphant Protestants retired to Dan Winter's Inn in Loughgall and there and then founded the Orange Order. Taking a leaf from the Defender's book, they too modelled their organisation on *********ry (which is not surprising in that several of the organisation's founders were already *********s). Thus from *********ry they took the four tier lodge system (primary, district, county and grand lodges), ceremonial (e.g. initiation rituals), symbolism and oath-bound secrecy. Official Orange historians maintain that the Orange Order was formed because the Masonic Order had proved ambivalent when Protestant members had appealed to it for help against the Catholic threat.

Two years later the Black Institution was formed and though its origins are officially shrouded, it's believed it was founded by disaffected Masons after many of their brethren were involved in the United Irishmen Rebellion of 1798. Thus it was formed on similar lines to Masonry (e.g. it has 12 'degrees' through which initiates can pass), but is pledged to loyalty to the Crown.

The ruling class in Ireland was at first opposed to the Orange Order. However as the war with France went on and the United Irish Movement was increasingly taken over by Catholic Defenders, preaching rebellion rather than the constitutional struggle initially espoused by the Protestant founder of the United Irishmen, Wolfe Tone, they began to support it as a counter-revolutionary movement The Government's response to the failed 1798 Rebellion was to pass the Act of Union -against which the Orange Order was the loudest opponent! Only when Catholic Emancipation came in 1829 did they go over to the side of Unionism which is where they have remained to this day. As Orangeism grew in Ireland it developed a second 'degree', the Purple. A separate self-governing 'degree' also arose called the 'Royal Arch Purple'. Only those who have passed through the Orange and Purple degrees can be admitted to it and only those who have passed through these three degrees can be admitted to the Black Institution. It's significant that when the Order was persuaded to drop oath-binding secrecy (scarcely proper in a loyal organisation as it threatened to undermine the legal system - though the oath was replaced by a promise binding to secrecy) the Royal Arch Purple maintained its oath of secrecy. In its rituals Orangemen would admit the Royal Arch Purple most closely resembles Masonry.

The Influence of *********ry
Covenanters strongly reject *********ry as an antichristian pseudo-religion. Yet *********ry has strongly influenced Orangeism, not just in its organisational structure and ritualism, but in the way it presents itself with its display of grand titles and regalia with mysterious symbolism.

In Britain, although the United Grand Lodge of England does not accept women, there are several lodges that are women-only and one, the Co-Masons, which is mixed, but "they are not officially recognised by us or by the United Grand Lodge of England," says Barry Lyons. "Until there is a groundswell of objection from the younger members, this men-only policy won't change.

JarJar blinks

I wonder Why boards . ie a supposedly IRISH board automatically deletes all my posts with the word

( "FA-REE"- "MAY-SUN" )



What's Happening ? ?? ?

Keep on Trekin

That's very strange!

strat

shhhhhh its a sekret.....



freemasons 0_o

JarJar blinks

The "FEAR-REE-MASSONS" symbol is on the old CIA logo and the current American 1 Dollar Bill.


Weird or What? and why can't I post the "WORD" on this board?


Any one have any more info one these Secret Groups, as I'd like to learn more and find out how real they are. Any websites out there ???

Belisarius

I suppose it was bound to happen sooner or later

JacquesPompidou

I know that AMP is one of them, it's also possible that he may be slightly Marxist in his thinking.

adnans

you could even say that freemasons are satan worshipers? some people may think that way. others give us a more reasonable answer. there are many myths and scary stories about the freemasons and the great seal, but we cant talk about it on these boards. if you get suspicious, you can always check out some anti masonic info and of course the freemason watch.

adnans

Makaveli

sssssshh there's no freemasons around here...

JacquesPompidou

Just wondering:

*********
*********ry


Hmmm

JacquesPompidou

Makaveli
How did you type out the w0rd.


Are you one of them?

The Gopher

So the f word is banned?Lets see-*********s.Perhaps its because the *********s greates rival is the other great secret society of the world the boards.ie comeabanus!:D
I was treasurer but was relieved of my position due to financial irregularities:(

Makaveli

Originally posted by JacquesPompidou
Makaveli
How did you type out the w0rd.


Are you one of them?

No I'm not one of them.

Monty - the one and only

This topic has gone seriously off track within a single post. I dont see why the disscussion on freemasons being censored is being held here

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