Drinking and surfing and loving it?

Slutmonkey57b

Well well, after a strange week indeed and given that I don't drink much I' m currently drinking to get to sleep and quite enjoying it. So my question is, given the Irish propensity to drink anyway, to what degree is the enjoyment of drunkenness as opposed to the enforecement of Irish culture responsible for the violent binge drinking society we live in?

I found the recent stories in the papers regarding the "tragic" death of a 14 year old in Donegal quite amusing I have to say - the entire community was complicient in allowing this girl and her friends to drink to excess - her brother used to driver her to parties at 11pm knowing she was going to be drinking - and yet the country is supposed to be shocked that the girl drank herself ot death - as though society had nothing to do with it.

Where does individual responsibility end?

Venom

and yet the country is supposed to be shocked that the girl drank herself ot death - as though society had nothing to do with it.

It's NOT SOCIETY'S FAULT.It her fault,her perants and her brother's fault for letting her carry on like this.Stop looking for excuse's as to why this happened.She,her perants and her brother were and are total retards and should be held responceable for what happened to her and not more of this blaming society rubbish.Its getting old at this stage.

Its easier to say how unfortunate the poor individual was for doing something that stupid and getting themselves killed.It's the same when some gob****e drops 4 or 5 E tabs causing their brain to implode,yet all their perants do is bitch about the government not doing enough to get drugs off our streets or even blame the school for not telling their idiot offspring 101 times instead of 100 times that designer drugs can kill you.

We life in a society when no matter how fúcking stupid a thing a person will do,when it get's them killed,the fault has to be somebody else's.

As far as Im conserned, these are just natures way of weeding out the genepool.

Slutmonkey57b

I agree quite wholeheartedly that they needed weeding out of the gene pool - but you're wrong to say that the only people to blame were the family.

What about the taxi driver who used to drive her and her friends to the pub every weekend after 10pm, and drive them all back drunk - why didn't he refuse to drive them? What about the publicans who served them all the time, knowing who they were and what age they were - why didn't they obey the law? What about the families of the friends whose own children were doing the same thing? Like it or not, all these people ignored what was going on around them because such behaviour is considered acceptable in this country - it's not seen as wrong, it's seen as normal - to the extent that people who don't like to spend their lives in pubs getting drunk are seen as the weird ones.

Beruthiel

it IS the parents/brothers fault, where exactly did they think she was going at that time of the night??? I am the mother of a 14 year old and she is at home where she should be after 10 o'clock. I have made sure she is well educated with regards to drink/drugs/sex etc... if and when she does fu*k up, she will have no one to blame but herself as she will have done it with full knowledge. There is also such a thing as too much freedom at this age.

Venom

You do raise a fair point in blaming the publicans.They should be charged for serving drink somebody who is under age.

I cant see how its the taxi drivers responacabilty in what an individual does at the location he/she delivers them to.The taxi drivers job is to ferry people from place to place and nothing more,not to uphold the law or decide who is allowed to go somewhere and who is not.

If for example the taxi driver who ferried the kids in question to the pub,had of refused to bring them to the pub,and something happened to the booze seeking kids on the way to the pub, they would be lynched by the public and the media.Not being able to get a taxi to the pub would not have stopped these kids going,it would have just merly delayed them.

The parents of the other children are responcable for there own kids being there and nothing more.I agree there lousy parents but cant be help accountable for the death of the teenager who died.This blame lies with the brother and parents of the dead child for allowing them to go/bringing them to the pub, as well as the publician for serving the drinks.