September 11-1st anniversary

CHRISTYG

I know that it was the worst series of single-day terrorist atrocities-forgive me if I've spelt that word wrong- that anyone's ever seen in "peacetime" but, while I see the need to mark the anniversary, is the way British TV are going about it-e.g. virtually wall-to-wall all day coverage-documentaries, discussion programmes-right? Even though it is this fateful date, do you not think that some "normal" programmes should be shown? I can understand the US approach- after all the disasters happened there- but why is it virtually 24 hours in Britain?

Mossy Monk

there will no doubt be live reports from various parts of the world and a lot of people will watch quite a bit of it. if people are a little annoyed by the amount of coverage that's going to happen they can always pick up the remote control and watch something else. 1 day to mark the anniversary of this event wont hurt anyone

three

Does anyone know what TV3 are RTE doing on Sep 11. Anything special?

CHRISTYG

Mossy Monk, what you say is of course true, but what I'm worried about is if all 4 terrestrial channels in UK-and some of the digital channels as well- are all doing "September 11" specials at the same time- which is certainly possible- there will be no choice of viewing. Does anybody know if there are plans for the different channels' coverage to be spread out, so that this dosen't happen/


PS- Completely OT- Mossy Monk, I UNRESERVEDLY withdraw the threat I made to Co Waterford this summer, and beg for your forgiveness!!

mike65

I was'nt aware that the UK channels were going to town on
Sept 11, obviously it was always going to feature as it was the worst terrorist attack on British subjects in modern history (77 dead).

No-doubt TV3 will be showing something else!

Mike.

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by CHRISTYG
PS- Completely OT- Mossy Monk, I UNRESERVEDLY withdraw the threat I made to Co Waterford this summer, and beg for your forgiveness!!

:mad: a truce will have to be called :mad:
northeners :rolleyes:

three

quote:

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Originally posted by CHRISTYG
PS- Completely OT- Mossy Monk, I UNRESERVEDLY withdraw the threat I made to Co Waterford this summer, and beg for your forgiveness!!

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a truce will have to be called
northeners

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Up the deise.

Bring on Galway or Clare

DeVore

Why dont we get a big brass band, and some cheerleaders? a parade! tear-lerking pictures of politicians for the human-touch a few close ups of vicitims husbands and wives... .oh some nice shots of the kids too, not too tearful of course, bearing it up like true americans.

This is pimpage, it should be marked quietly and with dignity.

Will this be an annual event now? a day off? a bank holiday?
Will we have Taliban Day 100 years from now when people eat hotdogs and wonder why its called that?

Let time forget those acts, all we do is carve them into history.

DeV.

mike65

Let time forget those acts, all we do is carve them into history.

DeVore, did you get that off a statue somewhere?

You're right but TV will never pass up an oppotunity to
put out the bunting regardless...

Mike.

DMC

Well, they will have to be remembered, for sure. And if it is wall-to-wall documentaries, then better this on the BBC than the ****e that is spouted on Fox News, for instance.

It was a remarkable day, no one will forget. I was on a bus going from Dublin to Kells, and I didn't believe it when my brother told me in the car.

It will stir up emotions. But I hope and pray that as TV shows memorial services there on 11th Sept, that all that flag waving and U-S-A chanting will go. Bin Laden is still out there, he hasn't been caught, and the world continues to be gripped by what will be the next big one. All that patriotism that occurred since then, I feel shows up all that the likes of Bin Laden are trying to destroy. The more the Americans tell the rest of the world how bloody good they are, they are only feeding these idiotic fundamentalists with a few hundred million dollars going away.

But I for one, on the anniversary, will look forward to Bush's speech and to what he says regarding exactly what he has achieved since in the last year.

Damo. (in Killarney, still.)

three

American television is having no advertisements on 11/Sep

I wonder are RTE doing this?

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I'm sorry i asked that question now.

DeVore

Mike, no... thats just how I feel.

And I remember the day well, friends of mine were in the third tower (the one that subsequently fell down) and I know a fair number of people from, and living in, NY.

I just dont agree with the mediafication of all of this. I dont want Taliban-day, I dont want people to "never forget" this. All that will be remembered is hate and fear and "them" and "us". I know people need to mark the day and thats understandable and in the end of the day thats their choice, I'm just saying that I'd rather see it mourned, greived and then forgotten.

This media circus is unseemly.

DeV.

DMC

Originally posted by mike65
You're right but TV will never pass up an oppotunity to
put out the bunting regardless...

And that is the difference between what can be shown on on US News Channels and channels over here.

Thank God that we have neutral media organisations over here, and not like the right wing agenda that is so often spouted on Fox News. CNN International is fine, but thankfully we dont have CNN that is shown in the states.

I watched MSNBC (relayed on CNBC Europe at the time) and CNN (US Edition on CNNi) in the immediate aftermath, and what turned me off the media circus then was the whole flagwaving and naked patriotism. And its still goes on!

4 nights after 9/11, was the Last Night of the Proms.

It was announceed earlier in the week that tunes like "Land of hope and glory" and "Rule Britannia" were omitted. Before that, I had seen that the US News channels were covering issues with a
nationalistic view. CNN and MSNBC are flying the flag on screen; The Star Spangled Banner has been played numerous times, the fire-fighters chanting "U-S-A! U-S-A!", the tone of the President. Nobody has passed remarks about it at that stage. The Last Night of the Proms is all about flag waving and singing patriotic songs. (as much as some of our country folk hate the Last Night of the Proms, I don't mind either way.) Why should the British people change a tradition, when we view on our screens was nothing but naked nationalistic sentiment? I know why the BBC changed it; to reflect the national mood and it may be wrong to celebrate. What if St. Patrick's Day or our National Day of Commeration occured a week after 9/11?? But when I saw Americans becoming more and more patriotic, it made me wonder why we and the British kinda had to make apologies for our nationalism, when all we watched was a load more uneasy patriotism?

All that did was lead us down a war which has not be won, and a world living more in fear.

Blinded by the Flag.

Rest assured, neutral TV Coverage will be provided by Irish, British and European broadcasters. Not the American ones. I'll be staying away from those channels then.

mike65

The attack happened on Tuesday which was Champions League night 1 and Liverpool were playing, the match went ahead, rightly in my view, but then the Wednesday night games and the UEFA cup matches on Thursday were postponed.

My own view was that it was "bread and circus' " and not letting the world come to a standstill that was needed just then. Sitting around watching endles re-runs of the planes hitting the towers
was NO help whatsoever.

Trouble with the media is that the mantra - If It Bleeds It Leads
really is true.

Mike.

DMC

I agree, but with the "if it bleeds, it leads", a lot of people bled, so therefore, its got to be a whole lotta big news.

Israel would be a prime example. A lot of people dead, main news story. But what is stunningly remarkable is that it is often the only foreign news story on the 3 main evening news bulletins on NBC, CBS and ABC.

Although with the wall to wall coverage of Big Brother in the papers..........

The US "news channels" don't show the film of the crashes anymore, actually they stopped showing them a few days afterwards. Will the show them on the anniversary or is it too much for them?

CHRISTYG

Going back to my original question, will all entertainment programmes be suspended in Britain on September 11, or will UK viewers be afforded the privilege denied our American bretheren, e.g. not to have the (albeit tragic) events of September 11 thrust down their throats on EVERY TV station at the same time?


P.S. Nobody say "I would think" I just want to hear from someone who knows (AND STRICTLY NO LIARS!!)

DMC

We can only go on the bits of "hearsay" we hear from the broadcasters on what they have planned for the day. We know for sure that in the US that major companies are not going to run adverts on TV on the day itself.

Only when the TV schedules come out later next week or in 10 days time will we know exactly what RTÉ or BBC or any channel for that matter will be showing.

But you know you can sum it up in one word .... Comprehensive.

CHRISTYG

OK, then, change the question. In your OPINION, will UK TV (not talking about the US, Ireland or anywhere else) afford its viewers the luxury of making a choice, or will they adopt an attitude similar to the US (which of course is where it all occurred, so you can't blame them) of "Let's show memorial programmes on all major networks at once, so as to give the viewing public no real choice!" or do you think UK TV has more intelligence? I hope so!!

DMC

I'm sure that BBC 1 and ITV will cover it really well. As its a Wednesday, I'm sure there will be Champions League games and Corrie for ITV, they will have to be shown.

For the day, I don't think that there will be a light entertainment show, no, that would be offensive.

BBC 2 and CH4, they will have a sensible alternative schedule to BBC 1 and ITV, but God only knows what Ch5 will show!!

For a precident, look back at all channel schedules for, say, the Queen Mother's Funeral.

DeVore

I hope they play them all at the same time so I can avoid them all in one go.

DeV.

Dustaz

Im sure we can rely on Sky One to provide us with quality alternative entertainment on 9/11.

Personally, id be quite interested in seeing some 9/11 related programming as ive missed some of the better documentaries since it happened.

Im assuming the U-S-A flag waving wont be a problem on the beeb (sky news and itv will probably succumb to it tho) and there might be some decent doco's that naswer a few questions.

Anyone know of any?

DMC

Full Details of the BBC TV's schedule for the 11th September have been revealed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/proginfo/docs/tvwk37_highs.pdf

It's all there. Radio highlights are available here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/proginfo/docs/radiowk37_highs.pdf

CHRISTYG

Damo, I can't recieve it on my computer, so tell me, are there indeed spaces for "normal" programming at times, or is it all memorial programmes, in which case it'll be ITV and Sky for me for most of that day! (In fairness, it probably will be anyway!)

CHRISTYG

Osama, cheers what for??

DMC

Yep, there are loads of spaces for normal programmes, but also plenty of TBC's (To Be Confirmed) The main thing is the documentary makers documentary. If you remember, they were on the streets near the Towers watching a fireman on duty, heard the 1st plane, spotted it just as it hit the structure. There is a memorial service too.