Is the FAI the most imcompetant Football Association in the world?

Pigman · 06-07-2002 01:21AM #1

Buh?

KdjaCL · 06-07-2002 01:31PM

Being a Pats fan and b4 last year knowing what levels of incompetancy they were capable of.
I am not surprised in any way with what they have done.
Kdja

zAbbo · 06-07-2002 01:33PM

bear shít in the woods?

Bard · 06-07-2002 01:49PM

does he wipe his arse with a rabbit?

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oh... and YES. They're a bunch of muppets... although I'm sure there must be SOME country out there (Outer Mongolia, perhaps) with a worse Football Association.......

p'raps not, tho'

Yerac · 06-07-2002 01:56PM

I know Pats fans do have issues with the FAI and rightly so, but in this case I think the FAI have actually taken the route to serve football best in this country.
RTE displayed the same lack of business judgement in their negotations as has led to be almost dead in the water. As an eircom-league. It at least appears that the FAI have finally taken action over the league, with RTE apparently not interested in showing domestic competitions (has anyone heard them complaning about losing the eL rights?). The fact that RTE would also actually putting in a lower bid than for previous contracts shows the "we're the national broadcaster, the rights are ours no matter how little money we bid or how poorly we do things" mentality that abounds in Donnybrook.
It is unfortunate that internationals won't be available on "free" TV, but I think the FAI are 100% correct to get as much money as possible for their product.

byte · 06-07-2002 03:01PM

Yea, agreed. €7.5m is much better than the measly €1.6m offered by RTE. It's a pity it's pay-tv but maybe RTE will learn next time!

It will be interesting to see how good/bad TV3 will be at eircom League. I would like to see a live game every week though that's probably asking a bit much.:rolleyes:

plastic membrane · 06-07-2002 07:59PM

Does the pope s hit in the woods ? Wait, no, i got that wrong. Bit like the FAI. What a bunch of morons. They talk about doing right by the supporters then they go and pull this lark. Utter madness. And the government should have done something about this before, making sure that Internationals stay on terrestial TV, like they did with the FA Cup in England. Pantsmasters, the lot of 'em.

vorbis · 06-07-2002 10:42PM

great message, its right to screw loyal fans for as much as possible. Did it ever occur to you that RTE aren't made of money. They've being making serious losses for the past few years. I still think a joint TV3/RTE deal would have been better. Don't the FAI realise what damage can be done to the game by effectively slasing the amount of people who will watch it. Simultaneously they've also killed any goodwill created by the World Cup towards them.

Pigman · 07-07-2002 01:07AM

Yeah, it's alright for people like myself to say 'well who cares cos I can just go down the pub to watch it' but then I'm not the future of Irish football. The future is some 8 year old kid out there who'll not pick up a ball now because he'll be getting interested something Else. Nice one FAI! I guarentee you in 10 years time the results of seemingly unimportant events like this will be as clear as day when we're back to being the whipping boys of European football again.

Keep on Trekin · 07-07-2002 12:36PM

Yes it will be great,

Matty Murdoch and Donny Kingy buying up the rights for ever Irish soccer match, music concert, Irish cinema, and hurling games.

I'm so grateful that a minority foreign Television group has done this deed.

Seen that I don't watch Cricket, Horseracing, Polo or Wrestling .

We decided not to buy into Skky

When ever my little 7 yr boy wants to see the Irish soccer team play. I will have to bring him down to the pub in front of a bunch loud emotional cusin' kissing of Drunken OLE ~OLE heads.

Thank you FAI

Bateman · 07-07-2002 06:42PM

They've being making serious losses for the past few years

Come off it. Its basic accountancy. They were giving fúckall to the FAI over the past few years, and paying the likes of Eamon the traitor and Bill ridiculous money. It serves RTE right, their coverage of the eL has been a shambles, and with summer soccer competing with the GAA, it was actually going to get worse. The weekly roundup programme on TV3 is what I am looking forward to, non eL fans won't be able to stomach live games every week.

The deal is good for Irish soccer in general, although it remains to see if the FAI can distribute the funds properly (hopefully sacking Menton will be a good step to reform).

joey D · 08-07-2002 07:20AM

one thing about rte, if they had offered more than the 7.5m euro than sky, they wouldn't be in a position to charge per game or indeed the annual subscription fee. sky can recoup their money by screwing the punters, rte can't.
all this is really, really bad for the game, anyone who believes otherwise is as big a fu<king idiot as the FAI heads themselves. they're a shameless bunch of money-grabbing cretins.

Ciaran · 08-07-2002 02:32PM

Yes they are the most imcompetant Football Association in the world but not because of the Sky thing. RTE offered **** all for the rights and the FAI quite rightly told them where to go.

[Conspiracy] Maybe RTE are happy about this as now they can put on the poor mouth to the government about the license fee increase. [/Conspiracy]

Personally I'm far more interested in the Eircom League coverage on TV3.

Originally posted by irishbyte
I would like to see a live game every week though that's probably asking a bit much.:rolleyes:

I think the weekly highlights deal is far preferable to live games as it will show up the quality aspects to the games. The premiershi* looks of a high quality because you don't see any of the $hit in the games, only the good stuff. This is what the league needs to convince people of the quality football that is played.

BKtje · 08-07-2002 04:30PM

tbh i couldnt stomach live games but a round up i think i'd enjoy.
/me looks forward to it

FAI are muppets but theyw ere right to go with SKY.
1.6mil (or whatever it was from RTE) wouldnt last very long even if they didnt line their own pockets with it.

Bateman · 08-07-2002 08:03PM

One of the more interesting aspects to the deal is indeed TV3's coverage of the eircom League, but obviously this will be lost in the bigegr picture of the poor old OAPs and kids who can't get to see their heroes in action. Spare me. Bring on TV3, hopefully they will do more for the league than RTE ever did.

leeroybrown · 08-07-2002 08:10PM

I voted NO.

But simply because of some of the Associations in Africa and South/Central American banana republics. After them yes I'd say that no developed nation comes close in terms of footballing incompetence.

Bateman · 08-07-2002 08:14PM

Exactly, the question said "the world", showing a contemptuous disregard for associations about which we know little. But even the Brazilian association is probably more corrupt and possibly incompetent than the FAI. And they won the fúcking WC!

Occidental · 09-07-2002 12:34PM

Originally posted by Bateman
But even the Brazilian association is probably more corrupt and possibly incompetent than the FAI. And they won the fúcking WC!

Don't tell the FAI, you'll give them something to aspire to.

BKtje · 09-07-2002 01:11PM

Brazilian one is possibly more corrput but they cant be that incompetent if they actually won the world cup.
I wouldnt mind the FAI being corrupt and slightly incompetent if it meant that we'd win the World Cup

Bateman · 09-07-2002 01:26PM

Yeah, maybe not more incompetent. Although they have been known to pass appalinf safety stantdards in certain stadia.

BJJ · 09-07-2002 01:50PM

I mean why should a family in Mayo or a remote part of Cork have to pay an overseas television station money to watch the Irish games.

A station that has been constantly critical of Irish culture & sport and A station that has branded Irish with words like "Republican drunken and Terrorist"

FVck Sky and F\/ck the FAI

bugler · 09-07-2002 02:09PM

No, of course it's not. And anyone who voted yes either fully or partly because of the FAI selling the rights to Sky needs to look up 'incompetent' in the dictionary. It may have been a little heartless etc, but it wasn't incompetent.

Why should someone in Cork/Mayo have to pay a foreign station money to watch their national football side play? It's called capitalism, baby.

Bateman · 09-07-2002 02:26PM

I mean why should a family in Mayo or a remote part of Cork have to pay an overseas television station money to watch the Irish games.

Its just as easy to get Sky Digital there as it is in Dublin. By all means peddle the "can't afford it" argument, it has some legitimacy, but don't give this "remote outpost" crap, it is stupid, and probably offends the people from those areas, many of whom already have Sky.

Bateman · 09-07-2002 02:28PM

Why should we have to pay Umbro money for our national team's shirts?
Heck why should we have to pay into games at all?
...Patheic...

Thanx 4 The Fish · 10-07-2002 10:57AM

Why should we have ....

Why should we have to read two posts when both posts could be put into one message ??

As for the sky thing, I live in Mayo, sky is easy to come by and is probably quicker to get it installed here than to get it done in Dublin, 2 to 3 days from signing contract to having working box etc..

Was anybody listening to today fm this morning ? They ran a brilliant sketch around the FAI trying to organise a pizz up in a brewery, I think they may have been poking a bit of fun at the incompetence of said association. If you haven't heard it listen out for it on Sunday morning, it is a classic.

Occidental · 10-07-2002 01:24PM

Oooh look mammy, we have a whole new muppet in town and he knows really clever quotes form the Duke of Wellington and he's really controversial and we’ve never seen anything so original in our whole lives

Duke of Well · 10-07-2002 01:36PM

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BKtje · 10-07-2002 05:44PM

someone has a lot of pent up aggression.

imo its kinda jealousy. Knowing that his team (takign that he's english of couse

)are the biggest load of bollox even tho they should really be better while the Irish team are more than the sum of their parts.

Btw I like Sky. Way too many adds but they are still the best station going atm.

Mossy Monk · 10-07-2002 08:39PM

Originally posted by Thanx 4 The Fish
Was anybody listening to today fm this morning ? They ran a brilliant sketch around the FAI trying to organise a pizz up in a brewery, I think they may have been poking a bit of fun at the incompetence of said association. If you haven't heard it listen out for it on Sunday morning, it is a classic.

i was listening but i had to leave it. could you please PM me what happened. i got as far as Delaney giving a press conference out a window or something similar

Pigman · 13-07-2002 01:22AM

Originally posted by Bateman
Exactly, the question said "the world", showing a contemptuous disregard for associations about which we know little. But even the Brazilian association is probably more corrupt and possibly incompetent than the FAI. And they won the fúcking WC!

No, I wasn't being contemptuous towards smaller countries as do I believe pound for pound (or euro for euro?) the FAI are the worst. Some smaller associations may make big mistakes or get into bigger scandals (or do they?) but how many of them have put themselves under the microscope by qualifying for 3 out of the last 4 world cups and as such making themselves accountable for their incompetence?

This opinion isn't based on the current TV rights debate (in fact if I was to be unbiased I could probably say it was a good business decision), it just seems the FAI can't even go six months without gettting highlighted for doing something incompetent that other high profile federations never seem to get drawn into.

Bateman · 15-07-2002 03:53PM

True to say that you can only go by what you know, but all the same, some associaitons (I go back to the Brazilians as an example) are ALWAYS in the news, not just every 6 months.

Helix · 29-08-2002 03:04PM

Originally posted by Pigman
The future is some 8 year old kid out there who'll not pick up a ball now because he'll be getting interested something Else

yeah coz the ONLY reason kids start playin football is coz rte showed the irish internation games isnt it:rolleyes:

Helix · 29-08-2002 03:07PM

Originally posted by Bateman
True to say that you can only go by what you know, but all the same, some associaitons (I go back to the Brazilians as an example) are ALWAYS in the news, not just every 6 months.

agreed, the brazillians are quite probably the worst football association. constant public power battles. and what about fifa themselves? the amount of shyte that goes on there make the fai look like geniuses

Pigman · 31-08-2002 10:50AM

Originally posted by Helix

yeah coz the ONLY reason kids start playin football is coz rte showed the irish internation games isnt it:rolleyes:

Never said it was the only reason, but it was for me anyway. I'm sure many others on here are the same.

And Just out of interest, why do think so many players between the age of 20-25 are making it into the international team nowadays as opposed to the past?

Pure coincidence, or perhaps it had to do with the fact that the 'golden era' of Irish soccer coincided with when these guys would have been around 6-11 years old and at an age where they'd be deicding if they'd like to try soccer for the first time or not.

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