Kpnqwest woes continue

spongebob

Here we go again

Looks Like the End

If you are wondering why I care, and are an Eircom Internet user then go to http://www.traceroute.org and trace from a selection of sites linked there back into yourself or into http://www.eircom.net if you don't know your own IP

expect funny bizness when it shuts down.............

Many traces from Europe were still coming thru Kpnqwest tonight.

M

stormkeeper

will all the other Irish ISPs be affected too? (I'm using elive atm) ^ i guss that's a rhetorical question after this point

and also, what is Kpnqwest called under the traceroute readout?

Edit: I just did a trace on my current IP addy (under elive), http://eircom.net, http://www.unison.ie and http://www.iol.ie (which also has a server with linx). All of these ISPs share the first 9 peers, so if any of those are kpnqwest, we've got trouble.

I've also done a check on www.telenet.be, www.xs4all.nl, www.chello.nl and www.casema.net and the first 5-8 peers are the same as ours.

spongebob

eircom routers appear at the end and are named blah.blah.eircom.net

if the ones before them are named..say...

blah.blah.kpnqwest.com

it means that the primary route from that carrier to eircom runs thru Kpnqwest who have a lot of IP transits in place for the likes of eircom in Europe

if it is switched off the routes into eircom from those carriers and into all of eircoms customers like Microsoft Europe for example will become funky meaning slower at best...hopping across the atlantic a few times for example

we'll know soon enuff

M

stormkeeper

do either ixprime.net or colt.net go through kpnqwest?

Tellox

If eircom even THINK for one moment that Im paying them full-price for a 28.8kps connection, they are VERY VERY WRONG!!

the least they can do is give us flat-rate at this stage

stormkeeper

I wouldn't think even with this slowup Eircom would give up that easily...

Matfinn

Just out of curiosity from reading this post I decided to do a traceroute to wanadoo.fr ( France Telecom owned ISP ) and got these results. Seems strange that a connection has to go all the way over to New York in order to get from Ireland to France.
Heres the result ->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

1 131 ms 610 ms 391 ms xxx.yyy.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.333.000]
2 771 ms 991 ms 1102 ms fe1-0.tr1.exs.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.238.65]

3 1362 ms 561 ms 140 ms fe6-1-0.core1.exs.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.236
.1]
4 1172 ms 1232 ms 1141 ms atm4-1-0-134.core1.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.13
4.192.9]
5 290 ms 1122 ms 711 ms pos5-0-0.core1.8av.newyork.eircom.net [159.134.1
91.106]
6 191 ms 190 ms 190 ms acr2-so-3-3-1-0.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.193.157]

7 741 ms 540 ms 581 ms agr4-loopback.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.194.104]
8 591 ms 541 ms 450 ms dcr2-so-6-3-0.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.207.189]
9 250 ms 511 ms * agr2-so-6-0-0.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.207.198]
10 200 ms 200 ms 180 ms iar1-loopback.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.194.23]
11 190 ms 541 ms 300 ms 208.173.135.50
12 331 ms 330 ms 190 ms P2-0.NYKCR2.New-york.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.233]
13 290 ms 361 ms 350 ms P4-0.PASCR1.Pastourelle.opentransit.net [193.251
.241.133]
14 220 ms 351 ms 270 ms P15-0.ntsta202.Paris.francetelecom.net [193.251.
126.57]
15 320 ms 401 ms 350 ms P9-0.nrsta102.Paris.francetelecom.net [193.251.1
26.81]
16 210 ms 200 ms 261 ms P7-0.nafti104.Aubervilliers.francetelecom.net [1
93.252.99.114]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.

spongebob

....someone musta written a cheque

Note

a Trace out (from you to a given website) may not be the same as a trace IN (from a given website to you)

M

jd

Originally posted by Matfinn
Just out of curiosity from reading this post I decided to do a traceroute to wanadoo.fr ( France Telecom owned ISP ) and got these results. Seems strange that a connection has to go all the way over to New York in order to get from Ireland to France.
Heres the result ->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

1 131 ms 610 ms 391 ms xxx.yyy.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.333.000]
2 771 ms 991 ms 1102 ms fe1-0.tr1.exs.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.238.65]

3 1362 ms 561 ms 140 ms fe6-1-0.core1.exs.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.236
.1]
4 1172 ms 1232 ms 1141 ms atm4-1-0-134.core1.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.13
4.192.9]
5 290 ms 1122 ms 711 ms pos5-0-0.core1.8av.newyork.eircom.net [159.134.1
91.106]
6 191 ms 190 ms 190 ms acr2-so-3-3-1-0.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.193.157]

7 741 ms 540 ms 581 ms agr4-loopback.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.194.104]
8 591 ms 541 ms 450 ms dcr2-so-6-3-0.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.207.189]
9 250 ms 511 ms * agr2-so-6-0-0.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.207.198]
10 200 ms 200 ms 180 ms iar1-loopback.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.194.23]
11 190 ms 541 ms 300 ms 208.173.135.50
12 331 ms 330 ms 190 ms P2-0.NYKCR2.New-york.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.233]
13 290 ms 361 ms 350 ms P4-0.PASCR1.Pastourelle.opentransit.net [193.251
.241.133]
14 220 ms 351 ms 270 ms P15-0.ntsta202.Paris.francetelecom.net [193.251.
126.57]
15 320 ms 401 ms 350 ms P9-0.nrsta102.Paris.francetelecom.net [193.251.1
26.81]
16 210 ms 200 ms 261 ms P7-0.nafti104.Aubervilliers.francetelecom.net [1
93.252.99.114]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.

it doesn't "have to"

3 60 ms 10 ms 60 ms atm4-1-0-35.gw01.cra.dublin.te.net [194.125.204.
13]
4 <10 ms <10 ms 10 ms 159.134.192.50
5 20 ms 20 ms 30 ms 159.134.192.226
6 20 ms 20 ms 30 ms r21-fe0-1-0.asd-ixx.nl.kpnqwest.net [134.222.197
.33]
7 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms r16-po4-0.asd-kq1.nl.kpnqwest.net [134.222.229.1
89]
8 20 ms 30 ms 20 ms r1-se1-1-0.0.ledn-kq1.nl.kpnqwest.net [134.222.9
6.37]
9 20 ms 30 ms 20 ms r2-se0-0-0.0.ledn-kq1.nl.kpnqwest.net [134.222.2
30.2]
10 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms r1-se0-0-0.0.ldn-kq1.uk.kpnqwest.net [134.222.23
0.169]
11 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms r1-se0-0-0.0.ldn-kq4.uk.kpnqwest.net [134.222.23
1.14]
12 31 ms 30 ms 40 ms p0-0.lonbb1.london.opentransit.net [193.251.251.
233]
13 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms p13-0.pascr1.pastourelle.opentransit.net [193.25
1.154.225]
14 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms p15-0.ntsta202.paris.francetelecom.net [193.251.
126.57]
15 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms p9-0.nrsta102.paris.francetelecom.net [193.251.1
26.81]
16 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms p7-0.nafti104.aubervilliers.francetelecom.net [1
93.252.99.114]
17 * * * Request timed out.