Are we going to reach a stalemate?

DeVore · 07-06-2002 9:59pm #1

gah I just blew myself up off 1.4 million fighters....

Now I think we may have a problem Heuston... I have 3 million fighters on my sectors and nearly a million on most of my mature planets. I could make that 2 or even 3 million in the drop a of hat.

My ship was 20/21 everything pretty much and was fully tanked, so I'm confused how 1.4 million fighters killed it.
I had never been killed this round and have been putting a ton of cash into that ship so apart from Kif's it should have been one of the top ships...

Here's what happened:
I killed 496,000 odd fighters with my beam weapons (less then I expected, what determines that number?) and 336000 with torps... the remaining 700,000 fighters engaged my 496000 fighters and then cut through my 21 shields and all of my armour (!)

Ok, so my bad. oops.

but I think its going to become a stalemate now as defence is MUCH easier to buy then offence, leading to a stage where we are all in our inpenetrable fortresses just farming away...

Now, I could have (and did on several occasions) cloak past the sector defences, but I am presuming that attacking a planet with a base (and beam weapons) will be even tougher... so 2Mill fighters on a planet and its virtually unattackable it would seem...

I think there is a balance issue here...
Ho hum, anyway I've got my ship back up to scratch and I'll go trade for a while.

DeV.

ykt0di9url7bc3 · 07-06-2002 10:09pm

with the right info you can bring down just about any one

Lyconix · 07-06-2002 11:16pm

Tough luck Dev

DeVore · 08-06-2002 12:23am

I'll be back...

DeV.

castie · 08-06-2002 2:51am

dev did u ttack anything before this as you probably ran low on energy and so ure fighters dropped like flies

DeVore · 08-06-2002 9:32am

nope, top of everything.

I killed just over 1 Million Fighters so the remaining 400,000 or so burned through Shields21 and Armour 20?

???

I'm confust.

DeV.

GreenHell · 08-06-2002 12:59pm

The attacking engine is ****ed up tbh

One thing you should remember is that planets have an extra two attacks if the owner is based there, both the ship and the planet get to fire on you.

Number of ways to insure your safety are to by a damn good engine then they can't lock on you, but because of the price system it will end up with the top 10 players having the game level everything.

One thing I do not like is that you can only only destroy a max of half your enemies fighters in any attack! Its bloody annoying, simple tactic for planetery defense is to load up on fighters, woohoo you've won already.....

But the game is called blacknova TRADERS so I guess we most corner the markets in the game, winning by force would appear to very hard.

strat · 08-06-2002 1:43pm

i think by the end of next week with our upgraded hulls we will have exhausted most of the goods>ore trade routes so we will have to attack

Lyconix · 08-06-2002 2:17pm

Having the trade routes gradually restore value over time might be a good idea...

Pepe LeFrits · 08-06-2002 2:40pm

Originally posted by Lyconix
Having the trade routes gradually restore value over time might be a good idea...

They do.

I'd agree with Dev on it being too easy to defend. Although i have found that i've been able to take out defences with a lot more fighters than i have.

I think cloaking past fighters makes a big difference, when I have cloaked past enemy fighters i've been able to destroy system defences of up to 1.5 million fighters & 2 million mines with only 750k fighters and 450k torps.

sector defences should cost more to maintain and stockpiling fighters on planets should cost a FVCKLOAD too. When i was ranked #1 by a good 40000 points i'd come across planets with 4million fighters and 4million torps (against 750k/450k of mine), wtf?

Anyway, good luck with the game, as i'm off to Greece monday afternoon i shall not be playing anymore

ps Legion having 40% of the people playing the game is a bit gay.

Thorbar · 08-06-2002 3:45pm

Since when is 12/65 = 40%?

Lyconix · 08-06-2002 3:49pm

Originally posted by kaids
Anyway, good luck with the game, as i'm off to Greece monday afternoon i shall not be playing anymore

Have fun :cool: Pity I'll be sitting here bored off my arse in all likelihood...

Pepe LeFrits · 08-06-2002 4:36pm

well, last time i checked there were only about 30 active players but if that number has doubled in the past few days fair play to the admins for promoting it

Celt · 09-06-2002 12:57am

Dev sounds like you didnt have enough energy present on your ship to even fire all the beam weapons.

So your shields never kicked in.

Kraken · 10-06-2002 8:07am

or he used what little energy he had for the beams so when they attacked he had no energy for his shields.

DeVore · 10-06-2002 10:13am

yeah I may have had beams 21 and Power 19... didnt know that energy was required for beams... doh.

DeV.

Celt · 10-06-2002 12:50pm

Originally posted by Kraken
or he used what little energy he had for the beams so when they attacked he had no energy for his shields.

What did I say? :rolleyes:

Dev, You need energy on your ship, Power just defines the amount you can hold, it doesnt actually give you any.

Kraken · 10-06-2002 1:35pm

erm but he said he had loads of everything so i just said that he probably ran out of energy.

Celt · 10-06-2002 6:59pm

Originally posted by Kraken
erm but he said he had loads of everything so i just said that he probably ran out of energy.

Dev sounds like you didnt have enough energy

:eek:

:rolleyes:

DeVore · 12-06-2002 11:45am

Yeah I had over 1Mill energy on board but only 400K odd beam weapons so lots of fighters kicked my ass it seems. I presume one beam takes one point of energy?

From my estimation it must have been damned close....

DeV.

Celt · 12-06-2002 12:05pm

Originally posted by DeVore
Yeah I had over 1Mill energy on board but only 400K odd beam weapons so lots of fighters kicked my ass it seems. I presume one beam takes one point of energy?

From my estimation it must have been damned close....

DeV.

You should have as much power on hand as you can carry, especially if your power level is under your shield/beams level.

I know I was carrying ~23mil energy when I last played and each time i fought used 5-6mil.

DeVore · 12-06-2002 12:15pm

Yeah but Celt, you had almost unlimited cash from the port bug.
Power 21 still only gets you like 1.5Million energy or thereabouts.

So getting 3-5 million is going to require power levels around 28 which is going to cost an absolute fortune!

DeV.

Celt · 12-06-2002 12:35pm

Originally posted by DeVore
Yeah but Celt, you had almost unlimited cash from the port bug.
Power 21 still only gets you like 1.5Million energy or thereabouts.

So getting 3-5 million is going to require power levels around 28 which is going to cost an absolute fortune!

DeV.

I'm saying, if your going to attack carry as much energy as you can handle

Are we going to reach a stalemate?

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