Who should be the next Rep. of Ireland manager? [POLL]

Bard · 28-05-2002 05:33PM #1

Well it looks like McCarthy may be on his way out... whether Keane goes back or not, and whether Mick saves his reputation or not, I doubt he's got a hell of a long time left...

Who would you like to see replacing him?

The_Scary_Man · 28-05-2002 05:41PM

Joe Kinnear should have got it the last time.

zAbbo · 28-05-2002 05:42PM

I`d go for Dave O Leary, very impressed with what he`s done with leeds and seems to have good personal/media/player skills that Mick McCarthy doesn`t have.

If Dave O Leary was the boss i doubt we`d be in the situation we`re in at the mo.

Just to recap
sitution: captain sent home from World Cup

gandalf · 28-05-2002 05:43PM

Well I'm not voting in this one.

Talk about premature the bloody Irish team haven't even kicked a ball in anger and cr@p like this is a appearing. Lets get the WC over with and then see how the dust settles.

What happens if they win it........(I know it would take a miracle)

FAI Muppet "ahh Mick thanks for winning us the WC now fuk off !!!"

Gandalf.

tHE vAGGABOND · 28-05-2002 05:56PM

Joe K should have gotten it last time, and hope he should get it now..

Lest it not be forgotten, that Mick got us to the World Cup. Out of a group that no one (me included) give us a hope in hell. That should not be forgotten. But its on small things like this that careers turn...

Littletinyman · 28-05-2002 06:00PM

Lee Carsley

Seriously though - Martin O' Neill.

Sand · 28-05-2002 06:01PM

Could ask David O Leary or Martin O Neill to do the job, part time if they werent going to leave their respective clubs (Which is highly unlikely at this stage). A lot of Irish players play in the premiership anyway so O Leary for example would be keeping an eye on them anyway. Would require top class support, but perhaps people like Kinnear , whose heart might prevent him from taking on the frontline job but a less exsposed stressful role might be right up his street. Meanwhile McCarthy can return to the mediocre 1st division management hes best suited for. His 3-5-2 formations, playing Roy in central defence, and his wonderful subistute stroke in Macedonia are just some examples of his quality.

Bateman · 28-05-2002 06:11PM

Em, can someone answer two questions re: O Leary.

How much has he spent in the past few years?
Hint: more than Chelsea, for a start.

What has David O Leary won as a manager?
Hint: Fùck all.

I have to laugh at the candidates. Jack Charlton is retired from the job. Joe Kinnear would have us playing long ball football. We are not Brazil, but we are better than that. McCarthy has not turned us into the most skillful players in the world, but at least the game we play under McCarthy isn't the Charltonesque long ball. John Giles will never take another job in Irish football again after his last one. Anyone who knows anything about Shamrock Rovers will know how disillusioned with the FAI John Giles is.
Martin O Neill will not leave Celtic for this job, I would be pretty sure of that. He is quite young, and knows they would offer it to him at some stage in the future if he turned it down now. Although he would be the first person I would go for.
Failing O Neill, there is only on candidate. Brian Kerr.
I don't know why Alex Ferguson is mentioned, funny.

IrishGuykokoJin · 28-05-2002 06:31PM

Originally posted by Bateman
I have to laugh at the candidates. Jack Charlton is retired from the job. Joe Kinnear would have us playing long ball football.

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I agree
Martin O Neill will not leave Celtic for this job

Why not some of these guys?

Winfried Schäfer
Sven-G Eriksson
Phil Troussier
Camacho José Antonio
Miracle man Milutinovic
Trapattoni Giovanni

England finally woke up and realised that England premiership coaches were useless for the England team. They decided to get better coaches from abroad.

Ireland of course will do nothing of the sort. If you want good coaches go to Spain.

Bateman · 28-05-2002 06:42PM

In fairness England have had some excellent coaches over the years, like Hoddle, Venables, and Bobby Robson, the press just drove them out.
But generally, I'd agree, England finally realised the time had come to look abroad, and, well, lets not judge now, but Eriksson is doing alright.

tHE vAGGABOND · 28-05-2002 07:14PM

Yea, **** that - Joe K playing football thats proven to work year in and year out..

that would be awful..

Plus Inteternational maangement is hardly stressful, 6 games a year

If Mick goes the post will be a bit piosoned anyway, t'will be a bit hard to get people to take it.

NeRb666 · 28-05-2002 07:20PM

Originally posted by IrishGuykokoJin

IEngland finally woke up and realised that England premiership coaches were useless for the England team. They decided to get better coaches from abroad.

Don't go counting those chickens just yet.

They won't get past the group stage, S-G will head back to Italy soon after. back to square 1

TwoShedsJackson · 28-05-2002 07:26PM

Terry Venables.

KdjaCL · 28-05-2002 07:26PM

Brian Kerr

Kdja

Mr.Applepie · 28-05-2002 07:46PM

Originally posted by Bateman
there is only on candidate. Brian Kerr.

Yeah he'd be on my short list

mewso · 28-05-2002 08:26PM

I agree Joe Kinnear would have been my choice last time. I think it's rather ignorant to suggest he would have the team playing long ball anyway. Kinnear is a very canny manager who gets the best out of the resources he has available. I thought last time if he had gotten the job he would have gotten the best out of the team and not necessarily using long ball.
And I see O'Leary is top choice at the moment, of the named managers. If anyone is going to suggest that McCarthy has mismanaged things then I might dare to suggest that O'Leary could give him some tips on mismanaging in even more style.
At the end of the day though, in all fairness to the current manager we should as Gandalf said leave this kind of discussion until after the world cup, at the end of the day.

IrishGuykokoJin · 28-05-2002 08:58PM

Bateman, NeRb666..

I already think that Sven G Eriksson has proved his worth, he got an England side that was in a shambles, pulled them together and managed to qualify.
The problem now is that England are now in the group of death.
Personally I think, Sweden ( unbeaten in the last 22 games?) and Nigeria are much better sides. I think England will fail ( and so will Ireland ).

Even if ireland do go through to the last 16, this will be McCarthy's last days as manager. I hope we get some one from the Spainish league instead of England

Mossy Monk · 28-05-2002 09:13PM

Martin O' Neill

jacksonflam · 29-05-2002 12:43PM

'SIR' Alex Ferguson??????????? Sir?????????? Do we need to acknowledge that title, recognise it, bow and scrape to the monarchist institution that elevates him above others and reduces others to inferiority. We, in Ireland are proud and free citizens. We are not subjects. We have a constitution.

Quigs Snr · 29-05-2002 12:52PM

Indeed a party political broadcast from Sinn Fein above there. I would put 'Sir' Osama Bin Laden in charge if it would get Roy back. Kinnear should have gotten it last time no doubts about it. Maybe we should be looking abroad. However I don't think there will be a queue of people looking for the job. We have a very poor pool of players lets face it. It's not exactley glamourous.

Ferguson, O'Neill and O'Leary would be as likely to take the job as Elvis, Jimi Hendrix and Shergar.

O'Neill would be my choice in an ideal world.

jacksonflam · 29-05-2002 02:38PM

Wrong. Reactionary and ignorant. There is more than one dimension.

Bateman · 29-05-2002 06:48PM

I already think that Sven G Eriksson has proved his worth,

Considering Bobby Robson got them to WC SF, I don't think old Sven has quite proved his worth yet.

Yerac · 29-05-2002 06:59PM

I think it's amazing that people would be talking about a new manager 3 days before our FIRST game at the World Cup. I also find it amazing that McCarthy's job comes under threat after actually getting Ireland to a finals.
I think Mick should be allowed to continue his 2 year contract (until after Ireland's involvement in euro2004 has ended), judge him then on his 8 years in charge, see if he even wants to continue in the job and have a poll like this then.
As for the choices mentioned they are truly laughable; O'Leary has been disastrous at Leeds, Kinnear doesn't belong near a top side, Giles - don't think this deserves an explanation, Charlton has had his time and has said he's finished with management, Ferguson unavailable and probably uninterested, Roy Keane - this is the joke option right?.
I would agree with some of the other suggestions though, Martin O'Neill would be a good man, as would Brian Kerr, although I don't think the FAI would give it someone like him who is only high profile in the domestic/under-age scene.

Bateman · 30-05-2002 06:45PM

>only high profile in the domestic/under-age scene.

It will be time for a change pretty soon, and the FAI will have to take note. :mad:

prenton · 31-05-2002 09:31AM

Definitely Martin O'Neill but hes probably to strong for the FAI to handle so they'll probably go for someone weaker that they can push around.

Winters · 31-05-2002 10:24AM

Humm. Where is Atari Jaguar?

I HOPE McCarthy will stay on. He is a GREAT manager and just because of some arsehole givin him **** does he have to retire?

Keane...burn in a hot place

DRakE · 31-05-2002 11:31AM

I'd go with Martin O'Neill tbh..

he's done a great job at celtic imo

plastic membrane · 31-05-2002 07:50PM

I'd love to see Martin O'Neil get the job, but there's a vacancy in Manchester in three years with his name on it. Knowing our luck, Roddy Collins will be the next manager of Ireland.