Huuum What do you think to this beasty

Stonemason

Just wonder what what you think this little lot would set you back.

Case (Midi P4 case+300w psu)
Motherboard (Asus P4T)
CPU (P4 1.7)
Fan+Hs (COPPER BASED 1.5+)
Ram (256mb pc800 Rdram)
Floppy (standard 1.44)
DVD/CD (DVD COMBI RW)
HDD (80GB Maxtor)
Graphics (ELSA GEFORCE-3 64DDR)
Sound (SB/LIVE Platinum)
Monitor (Sony "21" SVGA FTS trinitron
Modem (Rockwell chipset)
Speakers (Creative DTT 3500 D/S/S)
Keyboard (I/R Remote PS2)
Mouse (PS2 Radio Mouse)
Printer (Epson Laser Epl5800L)
Scanner (Epson 1240U USB)

Sweet dreams
Stone

Stephen

Stone - have you got an up-to-date price list knocking about?

Items of particular interest:

• 128mb PC600 RIMMs
• 128mb PC600 ECC RIMMs
• 128mb PC800 RIMMs
• 128mb PC800 ECC RIMMs
• 40gb+ 7200 RPM IDE hard drives

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- Munch

-ADREN-

HOLY Fcking BAZZOOOZZZ

if u have that kinda spec Stone i aint very gona talk to u again :P

-Adren-

LegacyUser

hehe stone if u had that kinda spec of a pc ill be licking ur ass so clean u can see ur iwn face in it

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aka. ray

chernobyl

i have everything except......
Case (Midi P4 case+300w psu)
Motherboard (Asus P4T)
CPU (P4 1.7)
Fan+Hs (COPPER BASED 1.5+)
Ram (256mb pc800 Rdram)
Floppy (standard 1.44)
DVD/CD (DVD COMBI RW)
HDD (80GB Maxtor)
Graphics (ELSA GEFORCE-3 64DDR)
Sound (SB/LIVE Platinum)
Monitor (Sony "21" SVGA FTS trinitron
Modem (Rockwell chipset)
Speakers (Creative DTT 3500 D/S/S)
Keyboard (I/R Remote PS2)
Mouse (PS2 Radio Mouse)
Printer (Epson Laser Epl5800L)
Scanner (Epson 1240U USB)

Stonemason

LOL wish i did have it we can make it but i couldnt afford one .As for price list im trying to get it on the website just a taster tho AMD 1.4 £278.93 Havent heard of any pc600 but i have pc800 rims in 128x2 or 64x2 Sold the last lot today to a lad who also took one of those wintv pvr yokes the ram set him back £235 for 256mb its not a problem we can get more.Just wondering we get oem stuff too graphics cards are very good Radion 32mb DDR £112 or nv gf2 32mb ddr gts £131.00.As soon as the sites up ill add it to my profile unless theres a rule against that ?.

Stone
ps have a guess at the price of that system (closes eyes and prays to win lotto)WHOEVER GETS CLOSEST WINS IT (Joking)
pps stephen 40GB 7200RPM seagate barracuda ATA 100 £172.99

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SickBoy

I thought the Seagate Barracuda was a SCSI drive?

Fidelis

About 2k ?

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Nil Desperandum

Stonemason

Do you really think id be selling a 40gb scsi drive for that price ?.We are cheap, we aint stupid.


http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1121,269,00.html


Stone



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Celt

£1200 - £1300 ?

Victor

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
CPU (P4 1.7)</font>

Let me guess thats a Pentium IV 1.7 GHz.

HEEELELELELLLLLPPPP!!!

Then again you could run Windows 3.1 (stripped down) on a 386 with 20 MB hard disk space.

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Too many freaks, not enough circuses.

Ba$tard

Yep,,

Seagate Barracuda is the 3.5" form-factor family of mid-range performance SCSI drives with 2mb cache or less....you might be on about Nova-II or another IDE family.

Ba$tard

SickBoy

I guess you learn something new every day. sweet system BTW.
Hey Stone, do you have any duel P3 motherboards in stock?

Stonemason

soz sickboy no not in stock probably get one for you.The thing is thats quite an unusal mboard ie not main stream stuff so most people wouldnt hold them in stock simply because the pc market moves so fast that you could end up with an expensive mb that wont sell and by the time some one does want to buy one its be supassed by about 50 other boards all cheaper.

Stone

JustHalf

Stone, I'd like to say this: you keep sending me out catalogues that make no sense.

Apparently I can buy an "Intel 3" from you. Nothing else is given in description. Also, you don't state the manufacturer's or the standard (UDMA66/ATA100/etc) of the hard disks.

People want more information before parting with their hard earned cash.

Victor

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Victor:
Let me guess thats a Pentium IV 1.7 GHz</font>

Intel only announced the 1.6 / 1.8 Ghz design this week - was your manufacturer being trigger happy.

Quality control should get it up to 2.0 Ghz by autumn - after that Pentium will be no more. 2.0 Ghz is the degin limit of the current generation of chips and from now on we will be talking about Itanium chips (2.0 to 20 Ghz).

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Too many freaks, not enough circuses.

JustHalf

Itanium isn't going to penetrate to the desktop market... it's dead in the water. It's a good chip, but Intel are bringing out a better IA-64 based chip quite soon. Later, AMD will bring out their Hammer chips.

These new chips will probably not enter the desktop market either: it's too much work converting software to work on an entirely different architecture (64bit).

There *is* a 1.7GHz P4... the 1.6 and 1.8 came out after it.

I doubt the P4 will be brought out of service at 2GHz. It's specifically designed to operate at speeds in excess of that.

JustHalf

Believed to be the Intel roadmap:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/20162.html

Gerry

Or just read the replies to your thread about itanium victor..

Kali

wah too many threads about the same thing.. its not Itanium anymore its McKinley, Itanium is basically dead in the water, due to its terrible x86 32-bit compatability compared to AMDs offerings (which improved x86 performance)

Stonemason

I know justhalf problem is my partner likes to abreivate to the tenth degree which in fairnes to alot of customers makes no odds if they see a intel p3 866 thats as much info as they need those that need more usaly ring and im happy to tell them what they need to know as for the Hdd the same thing applies ill tell people which ones are best for there stystem (usaly based on there age)i.e a 2 year old motherboard is not going to support ultra ATA/100.Im working on the website at the moment and that has more info on each item than most people will ever need.

Example
Seagate Barracuda III Ultra ATA/100 40GB HDD (7200RPM)Model-ST340824A
Seagate’s Barracuda® ATA III disc drives deliver 7,200 RPM and up to 40 Gbytes for mainstream and high-performance desktop applications and ATA RAID. Barracuda ATA III features superior performance, Ultra ATA/100 interface, quiet acoustics, DiscWizard installation tools and Seagate’s comprehensive 3D Defense System. Barracuda ATA III comes with a three year limited warranty.

Features Benefits

7,200 RPM desktop performance
high performance

Ultra ATA/100 interface
high performance

350 Gs nonoperating shock
toughness

FDB motor as option
quiet operation

3D Defense System
best reliability


Stone

Gerry

You should note though, that ata/100 drives are backwards compatible, and will work on systems that support LBA, and which can see the full drive. I recently got a 40gb quantum fireball ls working on a p2 300, with no problems.

Stonemason

Yea i know they are backward compatible.it just seemed a waste of £40 odd quid considering he was going to put it onto an old bx board (about 2 years old).Heres a question for you though?if he bought a 7200rpm ultra ATA/100 and put it on said board would he see any benefit? ok admitedly the disk spins faster but would he be able to transfere the data any faster ?or would the board act as a bottle neck.

Stone

JustHalf

"Intel 3" was the only information given, Stone.

_CreeD_

Depends really what he's doing. ATA-100 is grand but no IDE drivces actually come close to using it for sustained transfers.
I have 2x30Gb IBM GXp 75s in a Raid-0 array at home. Together they manage ~89mb/s Burst but 'only' 40mb/s sustained.
Now the extra bandwidth does come in handy if you have other drives on the same cable but I think in general you'll still see pretty good performance on an ATA-66 controller.

Gerry

Its not a waste putting it on a bx, I ran a 7200rpm maxtor and an ibm 75gxp 7200rpm on my bx ata/33 controller. The drives worked fast and I noticed very little difference when I moved the ibm over to the ata/100 controller on the board. I still run this ancient bx board! Imagine that, its based on ancient 2 year old technology!

Don't be taken in by the hype stone, as creed says ata 100 is good when you have 2 devices on the one cable, but really you want to avoid doing that anyway.
Creeds raid array can sustain 40mb/sec, my ibm 45 gig can sustain 30 megs a sec. This means that the bx board will not be limiting the speed of the drive. So, in short, its not a waste of money.

Stonemason

Cheers Gerry/creed ill bear that in mind in future hehe.Justhalf sorry about that its my sister who knows nothing about PC`s that types up the parts list even though i give her the list she manages to get it wrong grrrr.


Stone

JustHalf

Apparently, you also stock these items. Remember, these are the only descriptions given.

-> MOTHERBOARDS
"JW S/A633 ULTRA"
-> CPU'S
"AMD S/A S/370 ORB FAN"
"800/100 FSB"
"933"
-> DRIVES
"MEMOREX 12X boxed"
"SONY 8x CLONE Compatible"
-> SOUND CARDS
"SOUND BLASTER Ensonic"
"A-WIN S/B 1024 BEATER" *HA!*
-> MODEMS
"INT. MRI 56K ROCKWELL 3yr war"

Please Stone. I find it hard enough to decipher that; imagine what a PC-World lovin' person would think!

Stonemason

HAhaha

What you never studied cryptology at school shame on you probably to busy smoking out back LOL.I have to agree it sux some of that is definately my dear old (soon the be unemployed sis ) and some of it is our suplier he is damned vague on a good few items(in writing) i usaly have to check the specs before we get it despatched.I think youll find that it is mainly the can get list as we dont have them in stock im unable to get full details on them unless i specificaly asked for them(which intails an long distance call).This should be getting better as every time i phone him now i give him grief ie what is it whats the product code will it do this will it do that he is starting to crumble and has promised faithfully to get me better description.Problem is he knows what he,s got and so do people who live close enough to call arround.The thing is also im having to build systems sell parts give advice search for descriptions of which some are obscure get all this info onto our website and order in normal and specialist parts from our suppliers add to that im building an extension (on my house) trying to stop my missus running off with the milkman get my road tax insurance and update my telly licences.Im not doing to bad

Stone
ps i may as well start doing the lists as well

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JustHalf

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
HAhaha</font>

Indeed.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
What you never studied cryptology at school shame on you probably to busy smoking out back LOL.</font>

No, I never studied cryptology. I also never smoked; what with cancer being prevalent disease in my family. Glad you find it a laughing matter. To quote you:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
HAhaha</font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
I have to agree it sux some of that is definately my dear old (soon the be unemployed sis ) and some of it is our suplier he is damned vague on a good few items(in writing) i usaly have to check the specs before we get it despatched.</font>

Imagine how uncomfortable potential customers would feel reading that. If I wasn't a geek I wouldn't understand that at all, and would be very hessitant of giving my money away.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
I think youll find that it is mainly the can get list as we dont have them in stock im unable to get full details on them unless i specificaly asked for them(which intails an long distance call).</font>

Er, ask for details on everything Stone. It *WILL* increase your sales - if you pass on that description to YOUR customers too...

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
This should be getting better as every time i phone him now i give him grief ie what is it whats the product code will it do this will it do that he is starting to crumble and has promised faithfully to get me better description.</font>

Can you translate that please?

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
Problem is he knows what he,s got and so do people who live close enough to call arround.</font>

Angry Blair lambasts anti-EU 'nonsense'

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stonemason:
The thing is also im having to build systems sell parts give advice search for descriptions of which some are obscure get all this info onto our website and order in normal and specialist parts from our suppliers add to that im building an extension (on my house) trying to stop my missus running off with the milkman get my road tax insurance and update my telly licences.Im not doing to bad </font>

When's the next eviction?

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Ronan|Raven

Stone: whats the addy to ur site?!

Stonemason

Dave

No offence but how the hell was i suposed to know you had cancer in your family(besides who the **** said cancer was funny so stop putting words in my mouth) it was a joke and in any time apart from these aparantly rabid anti smoking times it would have be mildy amusing.If i had access to all the details they WOULD be displayed but as i have mentioned alot of parts have very vague descriptions which i have to clarify over the phone i also said i was trying to fix this and have be ASKING FOR MORE DETAILS (which have been promised to me in a couple of weeks) if i was given a product code i could find all the info needed but i havent be given even this.If someone wants a part they will usaly phone to confirm at which point i usaly have a chat about what they need it for just in case its not compatible with there system.Lastly as i have also explained i did not make the list up that was done by sales who as an added service send out updated prices and special offer ect ect.Im sorry you feel the need to snipe at us for no aparent reason but the fact remains we are doing our best there are only two of us at the moment we have only been up and running for a couple of (busy)months.If you feel you can do better why not put your money where your mouth is and start your own busines.


Stone
PS Ronan the new webby isnt up yet mark has ask i not advertise it untill its alittle better unfortunately hes in yank land at the mo but when he gets back we should be launching

The old url is
http://w.c.p-computers.20m.com/

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