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SW2: AoTC... Anyone else notice...

  • 19-05-2002 4:23pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭


    ... the god awful CGI implementation in some of the close up shots?

    I mean .. the film was ok, good fun even, better than TPM and fairly entertaining. I was impressed with the set pieces and large battle scenes.. but for someone who is supposedly using 'cutting edge' technology as part of this digital evolution.. the way Lucas implemented the CGI stuff in closeup shots was absolutely disasterous.

    Anyone else notice some truely awful moments like...

    1) The fruit being passed to padme for her to bite into it, only to miss the CGI fruit by about 2 inches in the final print:) Gee - never guess she was acting with a blue screen here.

    2) The horrible leap by Obi-Wan from his craft to a ledge below in coruscant. Wow that was really bad. I've seen japanese cartoons do better than that.

    3) The absolutely cheapass worm things used to crawl over padme. I mean - seriously, these just looked terrible and didn't fit with the rest of the CGI stuff in the shot.

    I could go on and on.. but I was just wondering if anyone else noticed these little 'gaffs' in the film, or was everyone caught up in the whole story etc.? I was very impressed with the overall quality of larger scenes.. where the CGI was not as noticable, but the closeups just really annoyed me. Considering the money and technology used for this film.. I would have expected better.

    Another case of 'Duh!.. how did they miss these in the post production'?

    c0y0te


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    I've seen a few comments about the fruit biting. Apparently she also doesn't slow her jaw down while eating the apple (to simulate the resistance while biting into fruit) either.

    Thanks a bunch - you've turned me into a nerd.:)


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    I didn't notice. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭c0y0te


    LOL @ Sceptre :)

    It wouldn't be so bad if it just was slipped in there, unnoticed. The problem is the CGI is soooo bad, you notice it while watching the film. All the other CGI is so well done that it just 'fits', so you (as the audience) don't pay it any attention and get on with the plot/story and action sequences.

    c0y0te


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    I noticed the fruit yes... but it was so unimportant it did not bother me! Bemused me for a few seconds thats all..


  • Subscribers Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭Draco


    Yeah, some of the cgi was ropey. Rather disappointing really. But feck it, I'm sure it will be fixed in the special super dooper dvd release.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    I thought the background secens in corasant looked a bit carp. Like the view out the window of the same 5 or 6 ships passing every 5 seconds or so, relly blanent looping of efects unless the all faly the same ship in the future!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    The only thing that bothered me was the Ultra shiny ships. But I didn't give a boll0x about anything else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭banbutcher


    i dont see why every one rips the new films apart with a fine tooth comb just to see what mistakes they made, thats not what they are made for, they are made for your enjoyment! and so what if they made some mistakes nearly every film made has mistakes in then!! so i just think that you should go to see a film just to see it, not to rip it apart!!

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    True banbutcher... besides not all are mistakes... take Lord of the rings... www.moviemistakes.com said in the part in the field with the scarecrow there was a car driving by? That turned out not to be true.. it was smoke from the chimney of the farmhouse in the background... to be expected!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    I agree with banbutcher. It's incredibly anal and pointless nitpicking little things in films. Bit plot errors is one thing. Little "Oh look the window isn't broken now" errors, sad....

    Even Pulp Fiction had it's continuity errors. Does anyone care? If the story is an amusing one and you enjoy watching it, why care about stupid little nitpicky facts.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭c0y0te


    ...There are those of us who are interested in more than just the film on the screen and the popcorn in our hands. For example, people (like me) who are interested in the sound, direction, art, editing, cinematography etc. Both points of view are valid (imho) and there is room for all of us.

    I understand that you consider this 'nitpicking'.. and indeed you are entitled to that opinion. You have no interest in looking beyond the image on the screen, and that's fine. But others do look beyond it. It wouldn't bother me as much if this had been a cheap or independant film with little or no expectations.. but its not.

    It's supposed to be ground breaking (digital film anyone?), using the best people in the industry (music, editing, production etc.) and delivering an "epic" end product.

    On that basis I have to say that it was let down slightly (and I emphasise the word slightly here!) by dodgy sound in the first 10 mins (possible due to cinema implementation, will check on next viewing in different location) and some truely awful CGI in close ups. I am curious to understand why post production issues like these, which are obvious to anyone with an eye for them, can make it into the final print on such a large project with so many professionals working on it.

    So - call it nitpicking, call it 'waaaay too much detail', in fact call it anything you want, but at least allow for the fact that some people get different things from cinema visits. Just like everything else in fact.. we all have different perspectives on the same thing, and there is room enough for all.

    c0y0te


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Sound was perfect at Ster Century


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭daveJAM


    The fruit was so noticeable. She misses it by a mile. This isnt cgi but when she falls out of the ship onto the sand, she's lying there in bits and groaning and squirming right up until the clone asks her if shes ok. Then she hops up as if she just suddenly realised she was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭BeatTun


    for the love of god get a life


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Bloody Drunkard


    The scene when Mommy Skywalker died was hilarously bad she went "i lo o o o o o o o "then made two burp noises and her head fell dramatically Sheer awful really adds to the enjoyment of the film

    By the way best line is when anakin says

    "Go back to your drinks this is Jedi business"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭daveJAM


    No, the best is

    "I'm going home to rethink my life."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    Personally, I was looking at the characters, and foreground action. I wasn' checking out the fúckin window behind them to see if they were looping scenes!! Cop on!!

    I did notive the fruit and I do think it's so noticeable you';d think they would've sorted it, but I forgot about it after the scene. I thought it was a great film. Also, in relation to everyone slamming the films, has anyone ever thought, that we were probably all quite young watching episodes 4, 5 and 6 and therefore it was easier to enjoy?? Maybe? We're all alot older now, our minds are a bit more intelligent, and we see plot and character alot more. When I was 10 I wasn't really thinking about all the shít everyone's talking about now. Were you? I doubt it.

    I imagine all the kids watchin these films think they're great, as we did when we saw the originals. Now, I know you can say, "well I've re-watched the originals and still think they're far better" which is valid yeah, but your first viewing was quite probably the most impressionable. When I re-watched them, I found some of the stuff hilarious, whereas when I was a kid I was.... "WOW!!" Anyone??? Just a thought! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭Mistakill


    i thought the directing was ok. The only error i noticed was the fruit and thats because it was *blatent? blue screen. The CGI in the large battle scene against the dark ond the light side was class. The scene with Boba Fett's father on that planet that wasnt recorded was also cool.


    If this seems vauge to you please take into account that im not trying to write any thing that might give the plot away (i.e spoiler)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Spiffing


    Natalie Portman more than makes up for it though :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭Mistakill


    Originally posted by Spiffing
    Natalie Portman more than makes up for it though :D

    RIGHT ON!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭GreenHell


    Sorry I didn't notice any mistakes, I was to well immersed in the film and natalie portman.


    Its a damn good film thats it for me really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭jonno


    Oh she is the most beautiful life form in the film. she's not a bad actress either I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭GreenHell


    MMhmmm like her, we do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭jonno


    An excellent film it is and I was too busy enjoying it to notice any of the mistakes(although the fruit thing was bad).

    PS - Good lucks are strong with Natalie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Spiffing


    Nice nipples too ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭jonno


    Yes one of the highlights of the film methinks


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