The Red's to leave Anfield

jonno

Liverpool are plannign to have their new stadium built for the start of the 2005 season. So it means goodbye to the Kop, the gates.
I'll be sorry to see them leave. So many memories.

Makaveli

Anybody know what will happen to Anfield once the new stadium is finished?

Pigman

Give it to Everton. After all it was their ground up to 1892 and Goodison is a dump so they could do with our leftovers.

Jake

A boring team who are gonna move into an unspectacular stadium.
Now I know some of you will have to argue that size isnt everything, you know who you are ........



But I think it would have sent out a clear message that Liverpool see themselves on the same level as Man U and Arsenal if they had of gone for a stadium of around the 60-70 thousand mark, how much more does it cost to build a 70,000 seater stadium as apposed to a 55,000 seater? Seems to me that if yer gonna spend 70 million on a new stadium you might as well spend 80, and have a real arena for football, youll make up the difference in a matter of a few seasons, assuming of course you can fill it.................

Pigman

Liverpool FC (thankfully!) just understand the realities of football. If Anfield had had 70,000 seats during these premier league "boom years" they probably could have filled it, much as Arsenal could have done with a 70,000 seat Highbury and ManU do at present! But it is clear that we are entering leaner times and the days of never ending wage increases and cheese and caviar corporate fans flocking will soon be coming to an end. If you don't believe me then just wait and see how much less Sky pay for the premier Leage TV rights this time around.

So as far as the new Anfield is concerned it's best to have the capastiy at 55,000 and fill it every match day than to have a 68,000 Old Trafford with 40,000 and lower in it. Once again if you don't believe this will happen then look back to the days around 1988-1990 where Old Trafford had a capasity of 48,000 yet average attendances of only 39,000. Expect similar attendances when the bubble eventually bursts around Alex Ferguson and the 20,000 or so bandwagon "fans" decide they would rather go to the Opera or do their shopping.

TwoShedsJackson

Originally posted by Jake

But I think it would have sent out a clear message that Liverpool see themselves on the same level as Man U and Arsenal if they had of gone for a stadium of around the 60-70 thousand mark, how much more does it cost to build a 70,000 seater stadium as apposed to a 55,000 seater? Seems to me that if yer gonna spend 70 million on a new stadium you might as well spend 80, and have a real arena for football, youll make up the difference in a matter of a few seasons, assuming of course you can fill it.................

The 70,000 seat one was priced at 120 million, a bit more expensive than you obviously thought.

PiE

Once again Man U fans prove the idiocy.

AFAIK the stadium is being built in a way which will make it easily upgradeable to 65000 etc seats, if the need ever arises.

castie

hope it oges ahead england needs bigger and better stadiums in order to get the world cup and so we will be quite near to the action and wont have to fork out an arm and aleg to go if ireland suceed i quaifing or you never know they might get in by being the holders :cool:

jonno

Positve Mental Attitude. ÉIRE for the world cup.

Jake

Originally posted by TwoShedsJackson


The 70,000 seat one was priced at 120 million, a bit more expensive than you obviously thought.

Hold on Jackson, so it cost 60-70 million to build a 55,000 seater stadium (Liverpools figures) but to add another 15000 to the capacity costs another 50-60 million!

Id be interested in knowing where ye got that info, your not involved in the "Bertie Bowl" scheme by any chance are ye?

Jake

Originally posted by Pigman


So as far as the new Anfield is concerned it's best to have the capastiy at 55,000 and fill it every match day than to have a 68,000 Old Trafford with 40,000 and lower in it. Once again if you don't believe this will happen then look back to the days around 1988-1990 where Old Trafford had a capasity of 48,000 yet average attendances of only 39,000. Expect similar attendances when the bubble eventually bursts around Alex Ferguson and the 20,000 or so bandwagon "fans" decide they would rather go to the Opera or do their shopping.

Hmmmm, I believe your thinking on this is a little suspect, Celtic were only attracting around 19000-21000 (average) in the early 1990s.
You should see some pics of Parkhead at that time, it was a complete discrace.

However since the new stadium has been built attendances have soared, this in a time when for the most part Rangers have been dominant and nothing has been achieved at Euro level.

The only problem is that the stadium wasnt built big enough and eventually the capacity will be anywhere in the 70-75000 seater region as one whole area remains to have a second level added.

Now I will grant ye that maybe this may also be what happens eventually at the "new Anfield"? but if your right and football in England has peaked then it would suggest to me that Liverpool dont see themselves as being as big a club in terms of support as Man U and Arsenal, which I would find a little surprising.......