Soccer result Korea and Scotland

Kim Tae-Woo

South Korea 4-1 Scotland
South Korea served notice that they will be no-one's fools at this year's World Cup with a comprehensive victory over a woefully inadequate Scotland team.

The Scots' deficiencies were highlighted to stunning effect by the infinitely superior South Koreans, who limited the visitors to a couple of decent scoring chances.


The match in pictures
Striker Lee Chun-Soo was the star man, scoring the first and tormenting the Scottish defence until he was eventually subbed in the second half.

Ahn Jung-Hwan scored twice after coming on for the second period, with Yoon Jong-Hwan getting the other.

Scott Dobie marked his international debut with a consolation goal, but the Scots were totally outplayed



Scotland were outclassed by South Korea after a performance which will have persuaded even the Tartan Army diehards it was just as well they did not qualify for the World Cup finals.

Manager Berti Vogts saw his side lose for the third time in as many games under his stewardship, but this was the biggest disappointment so far.

From
BBC.co.uk and
Scotlandonline.com

jonno

The poor Scots:p

Bateman

The Scots were pissed on by France a few weeks back as well, this is a shadow of the Scot team that drew with Brazil in the WC in 98, but I would imagine that by the time the qualifiers come around in September, Vogts will have organised them a bit better. I am sorry if that sounds stereotypically German, but that will have to be the first thing he will have to do.

Jake

Originally posted by Kim Tae-Woo
South Korea 4-1 Scotland
South Korea served notice that they will be no-one's fools at this year's World Cup with a comprehensive victory over a woefully inadequate Scotland team.

Sorry to burst the bubble but as far as i know the full Scottish team are ranked 52 in the world!
And this wasnt the full scottish team.............

It was the younger players alot of whom havnt much previous experience and havnt had time to aclimaties, only been out there a few days!
Dont think the likes of Lambert and Ferguson even travlled with the party.

However in fairness I must say that I saw the goals and must complement the south Koreans on their finishing, all excellent goals indeed.

Makaveli

Even if it was just a second string Scottish team, the first team is hardly full of superstars and world class players. Who is to say the first team would have done much better?

Jake

err, I dunno and dont really care to be honest!

Just pointing out a few facts, so please try and chill Makaveli!

:rolleyes:

Kim Tae-Woo

Both Korea and Ireland were the small minority countries in EastAsia and WestEurope.
Japan & England both had a monarchy that dominated it's neighbours.
Japan and England have a Tea Ceromony
A Monarch as the head of state...
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Is Ireland similar to Korea?

Korea has been influenced by both China and Japan. Its early philosophy and religion and system of writing came from China - though in 1443 a new alphabetic system of writing replaced the Chinese system. Its relation to Japan has something in common with that of England and Ireland. Japanese invasions occurred at several times in Korea's history

The Japanese influence in Korea grew until in 1910 they annexed the country. Until 1945 they ruled it as a colony, much as England had ruled Ireland. During this period Japanese filled all the important government positions down to village headmen. Some Koreans were taken to Japan as slave laborers and forced prostitutes during the 1930s. Their descendants are still there, and still denied citizenship.
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/egmatthews/worldinfo/asia/korea_South.html


of Queen Elizabeth II's golden jubilee is unlikely to be celebrated, or even

denigrated, like her silver jubilee was 25 years ago

NEAR the end of Jimmy McGovern's Sunday, the Queen of England drapes a medal around the neck of the British army officer who commanded the paratroopers on Derry's Bloody Sunday. Though stiff with formality, the scene outdoes even a riotous Wolfe Tones' gig for contemptuous triumphalism. Back in 1973, when she gave Derek Wilford his medal, the queen had been on the throne for 21 years.

The crowning disillusionments of royal dysfunction, the Di dramas and the annus horribilis of 1992 had yet to unfold.




Two years later, the Pope came to Ireland and his visit, from the perspective of 2002, appears to have sparked the last great gatherings - at least on the scale of O'Connellite monster meetings - of devout, Catholic Ireland. The silver jubilee of QE2 marks a similar moment for devout, royalist England (although the "fairytale" wedding of Charles and Di in 1981 got the punters out again). With the 50th anniversary of her accession to the throne looming, the heyday of royalty has shrivelled.

There will, no doubt, be intense PR and propaganda campaigns between now and the summer to muster some support for QE2's "golden jubilee". But far more English people are focused on their soccer team's campaign in the World Cup. Mind you, a good run in Japan and Korea could sufficiently buoy England's national mood that cute courtiers could hitch the royal coach to that bandwagon. Given the likely toughness of England's group matches, that's a dodgy strategy, of course.

Still, if England were to win the World Cup, the monarchy would move to position itself centre-circle in the celebrations that would follow.


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Anyway, in an England in which proportionately fewer people know their neighbours than is even the case in Ireland, the idea of expecting them to bring their tables out on to the streets to "celebrate" a woman who lives in ostentatious luxury, is absurd. Some 25 years ago, there was sufficient community and deference to make it work and a compliant media supplied the crowning exaggerations.

It too may come under severe strain soon. The investigation of drug abuses at Juventus, Italy's most revered soccer club, casts a shadow over the club's great team of the mid-1990s. With cycling and the Olympics already discredited by doping scandals, even soccer, the world's most popular game, could go into decline. By the time of a dramatic collapse, of course, the 50th anniversary of Queen Elizabeth II's taking the throne will be history.

Perhaps a brilliant PR campaign will salvage some comfort for the Windsors, but 10 years on from the queen's annus horribilis, it's hard to see how. In a society atomised by forces - not least among these, anti-trade unionism - which have rendered obsolete old structures of community, the royalparty is in rag order


I
ts history was upto 1948 similar to neighbours North Korea, until the Korean war interrupted the peace.
Korea, which has a 5000 year history, has been divided into South Korea and North Korea since the end of World War II in 1945 and the subsequent Korean War (1950-53).
South Korea has qualified for the World Cup Finals six times since 1986. In accordance with the agreements reached between the two co-host countries, the opening ceremony and match will be held in Seoul.
http://www.worldcup-2002.co.uk/hosts.html


As the leaders of North and South Korea talk face to face for the first time in over 50 years, Conor O'Clery examines the parallels with Irish history
Almost half a century after the country was divided, the leader of the southern part made a historic journey north to meet his counterpart. "I shall get into terrible trouble for this," he told his host. "No," came the reply, "it is I who will get into trouble for this."

This exchange took place on January 14th, 1965, between the then Taoiseach Sean Lemass and Terence O'Neill, in the Stormont lavatory, so the story goes, and the Northern Ireland Prime Minister did indeed get into trouble as the North slipped into decades of turmoil and he found himself out of a job.

Yesterday, just over half a century after their country was partitioned, the leader of South Korea, President Kim Dae-jung, travelled north to meet for the first time with his counterpart, Mr Kim Jong-il, and no doubt both reflected on what sort of trouble lay ahead as they broke a historic logjam.

There are many parallels between Ireland and Korea, which is sometimes referred to as the Ireland of Asia. The two have a history of colonial occupation. The people of both Ireland and Korea also have an informality at odds with the more reserved social customs of the colonial power, which in Korea's case was Japan.

Prof Kevin O'Rourke of Kyung Hee University, one of the most highly acclaimed translators of Korean literature in the world, having completed 14 volumes of Korean poetry, recalls how he found the people of rural South Korea very similar to those of rural Ireland in humour and hospitality when he arrived in 1964 as a Columban Father. Recently a senior South Korean government minister related how much he identified with Frank McCourt's Angela's Ashes as it described the life of poverty in which he grew up.

The most obvious shared experience is that of partition. The border between North and South Korea is, however, much more formidable than between the two parts of Ireland, where Partition was never an impediment to free movement.

The frontier in Korea is a mined, barbed-wired no man's land, across which two heavily armed forces face each other. It is guaranteed by 37,000 US soldiers. The two Koreas are technically still at war since an armistice ended the 1950-53 Korean War. Millions of families have been separated and have not seen or heard from loved ones for 50 years.

Korea's misfortune was that it was an area of greater strategic importance than Ireland, and the border became a confrontation zone between two ideologies. The division had its origins in a decision by the United States during the second World War to encourage the Soviet Union to join in the war against Japan.

When Japan suddenly collapsed, Washington decided to carve up the Korean peninsula into two occupation zones. On August 11th, 1945, two American officers, Dean Rusk and Charles Bonesteel, were given 30 minutes to select an appropriate boundary line. They chose the 38th parallel.

AFTER the 1950-53 Korean War, North Korea aligned itself with the Soviet Union and China, and the South became a protectorate of the United States.

The USSR collapsed and China embraced market economics. North Korea's leaders refused to abandon their communist system, and their country became an anachronism in the modern world. North Korea has all along underpinned its ideology with the ideal of self-reliance called Juche, which is "Ourselves Alone" . . . taken to its extreme.

The result is a country without computers, the Internet, mobile telephones, modern vehicles, up-to-date medicines or modern household devices. Its people are stifled by censorship and forced to live in a cult-like atmosphere of worship for the Dear Leader. Millions have died from hunger and related diseases as crops and farming methods failed in the 1990s. Its stunted children are centimetres shorter than half a century ago.

Contrast that with South Korea, the tiger of Asia, which has integrated with the global economy and, after a long struggle against military dictatorship, today enjoys democracy and freedom of expression. Where Pyongyang is a city of deserted avenues and power cuts, Seoul at night looks like a scene from the 1982 science fiction film, Blade Runner, with giant television screens atop glass office towers.

Kim Jong-il now desperately needs aid from the south, the only entity prepared to devote huge resources to alleviating its poverty. The price he will have to pay is opening up to the world. Yesterday was the first instalment.

The experience of Germany shows that a homogeneous people divided by a Cold War frontier can reunite when ideology ceases to be a factor.

In the circumstances, if the two Kims had a conversation like that between Lemass and O'Neill, it's likely the North Korean leader who would have said, "No, Kim Dae-jung, it is I who will get into trouble for this."http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/opinion/2000/0614/opt2.htm

Makaveli

What has that got to do with Korea beating Scotland Kim Tae-Woo?

err, I dunno and dont really care to be honest!

Just pointing out a few facts, so please try and chill Makaveli!

Also what are you talking about, all I did was comment on what you said. Did I hurt your feelings or something? :rolleyes:

Kim Tae-Woo

Are Koreans "fighting Irish" in disguise?

Final Score

Korea 1 England 1
The South Koreans' encouraging performance followed their 4-1 thrashing of Scotland last week.

JacquesPompidou

Group D

Portugal top the Group
Korea second place

Kim Tae-Woo

Korea2 Poland 0
China o Casta Ric 2
Jpn 2 Belg 2
Many fans were quick to remind reporters that the South Korean victory was the first win for Asia in this tournament -- Asia's first World Cup -- after Saudi Arabia and China were crushed and Japan drew.


Yang Hye-ran, a 20-year-old college student, said she had predicted the victory and score.


"I told everyone that we would win by two to zero," she said.


"The next matches, with the U.S. and others, we will win every match, every match, every match! We will reach the final!" she said.

Gink

I think you'll find they lost. Scotland are about N.Ireland's standard these days and thats a disgrace....

Kim Tae-Woo

The Irish equivalent of Korea's ``il-cha, ee-cha, sam-cha . . .'' is scheduled to take in seven bars, but the best part is that guilty consciences can be assuaged by the knowledge that it's raising money for charity.

For further details, check the official website (www.seoulshamrock.co.kr).


So all you Non-Believers

Predict the Italy Versus Korea game?

I say Italy 1 - 4 Korea

Kim Tae-Woo

Irealand Spain Tickets for SALE

Ireland Matches World Cup Tickets - Tickets to Ireland team matches on sale at the Westin Chosun Hotel in Seoul from Saturday, June 15, 10:00 AM for those with cash and Republic of Ireland passports. Irish nationals will be able to buy a limited number of tickets for non-Irish friends. Ticket priced at face value. Go to main lobby and ask for location of ticket sales.

Ireland in the World Cup 2002 - Up-to-date articles and observations are frequently being updated in the Ireland in the World Cup section immediately below this section.

Irish Drama: "I Don't Like Thee Dr Fell" - June 12~16, 8:00 PM at the Jongo Theatre in Hyehwa. Matinee performances at 2:00 PM on Saturday & Sunday, June 15 & 16. The Seoul Players are putting on this Bernard Farrell comedy. Irish Embassy-sponsored reception to follow final performance on June 14. For more information, click here or contact seoulplayers@yahoo.com

98 FM, Ireland's largest radio station, will be coming to 3 Alleys Pub in Itaewon to broadcast live on the 13th and 14th of June between 4pm and 8pm. Everyone is invited "to get hammered and and cry down the microphone to yer Mammies and Daddies."

International Stand Up Comedy, Friday night, June 14, 10:00 PM in Nicklebys Bar, Itaewon. Featuring Bernard Hughes from Ireland and John Redmond Also live music. Admission at door W2,000
http://www.seoulshamrock.co.kr/Index_eng.htm

JarJar bink

But do Koreans have a hope in winning against a good Italian side?


Game ends.

SKorea : 1
Italy : 3

Pigman

Just looking on it as an impartial viewer I can honestly say that I think South Korea are the favorites to win against Italy. Everyone thinks Italy are just gonna turn up and win somehow and that will be that? The fact of the matter is that Italy are still just living on their reputation so far in this tournement there has been little shown by them so far to suggest that they are good enough to beat Korea who lets not forget are playing at home and have put in 3 consistent performances so far. Italy should have beaten Croatia but they were totally outclassed by Mexico and deserved to lose that match.

I won't be surprised if Italy do win the tie because they do have a lot of class but South Korea have proved that they are no mugs. Finally if Ireland do make it to the last 8 then I definetly hope we'll be playing Italy instead of South Korea like I've said there is nothing in Italys game to suggest we can't beat them.

JarJar blinks

The Italian team are good but they're too arrogant, Ireland could beat them easily.

BJJ

well done Skorea