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  • 12-05-2002 3:19pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭


    PLease do not just turn me away as i'm only playing da guitar with 2 months,

    I can play songs such as;

    Outside: Staind
    Hang : MatchBox20
    Champagne Supernova : Oasis
    Zombie : Cranberries
    Good Riddance : Green Day
    Knockin On Heavens Door : Guns 'n' Roses

    I'm just wondering if anybody has any good tips on playing or knows some other beginner songs 2 play such as the above,

    Any replies will be greatly appreciated
    Thank you

    >DMX<


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭col_nicholson


    I have only been playing a while to, but i played the piano for years and i think the trick is to just play with other people however crap they are and you will learn quicker


    The nico has spoken


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Oeneus


    Try out something a little more tricky!

    Alot of people tend to start off with Stairway to Heaven, as it's quite hard for beginners, but great for stretching them fingers. Keep practicing until you get it right. And when you've finished you'll notice you've become a much better guitarist!

    Try Sweet Child O' Mine, too. The first difficult song I ever learnt.

    Master Of Puppets is a good laugh aswell!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,977 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Just keep playing, and learn as many chords as you can.


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭Scon


    I've been playing 5 months and found tackling the harder songs improves your skills a lot more.

    Example, in the beginning I tackle an easy song and have a little difficulty with it, later forgetting about it. Go off and keep practicing on a much harder song that I've no hope of getting perfect for a long time.... get a lot better at it slowly.... remember old song and find it incredibly easy.

    Works for me anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Trev M


    Lots to link to from here ....enjoy!


    http://www.guitarnoise.com/guitar/index.html


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    It really depends on what you want to play.

    A lot of people specialise in Rythm only and don't bother with lead. Some think they can manage lead without rythme. I've seen both.

    If you want rythme buy one of those 100 greatest songs books that are chord only. You'll pick up the basics quickly.

    If you want to do lead then go searching onlien for some scales now and learn them first before you do anything else....cause otherwise you'll get lasy and then not bother about them afterwards....that way you stunt your learning curve.

    Here....try this site out cause it looks like it would be good for a teach yourself session.

    http://www.mxtabs.net/guitartabs.php

    I learnt rythme first....I use it to help me play lead.....I learnt lead and I use it to help me play rythme.....but I didn't learn the scales first and i'm not as good as I could be because of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Trev M


    Iceman,
    Sound advice on the scales, very important that..

    Unfortunatley for me I spent hours upon hours locked in my room as a young lad pouring over metallica tabs learning guitar solos that took weeks to get down, the reason it took so long was I hadn't developed technique, nothing was natuaral and everything was memorized as opposed to intuitive by ear. Learning scales develops a natural technique and makes soling easier aswell as the obvious benefits of knowing what notes to play against what chord progressions.

    To this day my knowledge of scales does not go far beyond the pentatonic...hopefully I'll get some time soon to get up to speed though!

    Id' also be wary though of getting too clinical in your early development as it might stifle your own creativity. Everything I played for the first two years sounded like metallica, even to this day that early influence is always there in anything I write with my band, sometimes it's frustrating. Learning and listening to new stuff all the time is always helpful too. I deliberatley started to listen to stuff that was way off my usual taste and started to play it just to get some additional inspiration so maybe try that too it could be helpful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 323 ✭✭Khynareth


    Originally posted by Oeneus
    Try out something a little more tricky!

    ....

    Master Of Puppets is a good laugh aswell!

    Still in Metalica, One is... Well, very good practice... And so head wrecking... Ahhh...


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭DMX


    tanx guys 4 all da replys, im really gratefull as i thought everybody would just push me aside as im only playin with couple of months

    Cheers :)

    Thanking you >DMX<


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Jackoman


    I have been playing for years, and I agree with Trev M, learn Scales, it makes soloing do much easier and you understand whats going on, not just learning off the tab you get from some book. But if you want rhythm, just keep hammering away at learning as many chords as possible.
    There used to be a pretty good magazine where I learned a lot called Total Guitar where they gave you the tab and the music and you played along to backing tracks - great practice.
    Also if you want some tab or chord music goto

    olga.net

    They've been around for years and have a great selection to save you buying books.

    Good luck!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Trev M


    I think OLGA (online Guitar Archive) suffered trhe same fate as Napster and is dispersed in different guises all over the web....much like Napster also come to think of it !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭Scon


    I think you're giving the wrong impression saying that rhythm guitarists just learn lots of chords and they're away. (i'm not saying any of you think that, just that it's coming across that way and might confuse a complete beginner)
    Good rhythm guitarists always incorporate a lot more than simple strumming and damping into their playing, there's often some element of scales in their too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Trev M


    Scon I agree that there is more to rythym than a few chords, timimng is paramount, diversity too ,standard 4/4 gets very boring after a while, trying something a little more challenging in a rythymical sense is great fun...

    Years ago I learned how to play "unsung" by Helmet after that I learned how to diversify more. In fact pick up any Helmet album and you get what Im talking about...unsung is on the album meantime which is one of my favorite albums of all time and there feck all lead stuff that stands out which just goes to show you how much I respect what the album is in terms of Rythym guitar....seriously check it out!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,977 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Learn chords then scales then modes, and keep practicing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭Scon


    Originally posted by Trev M
    Scon I agree that there is more to rythym than a few chords, timimng is paramount, diversity too ,standard 4/4 gets very boring after a while, trying something a little more challenging in a rythymical sense is great fun...

    Years ago I learned how to play "unsung" by Helmet after that I learned how to diversify more. In fact pick up any Helmet album and you get what Im talking about...unsung is on the album meantime which is one of my favorite albums of all time and there feck all lead stuff that stands out which just goes to show you how much I respect what the album is in terms of Rythym guitar....seriously check it out!

    If you check out some tabs for Dave Matthews Band you'll see a really nice side to rhythm guitar. I know a lot of people hate the band but you gotta admire the songwriting. Although he plays rhythm guitar it'd be impossible to give the songs out as chords and expect people to be able to play them as they should sound.
    Dave ain't the greatest guitarist in the world by a long shot but as a rhythm guitarist he's pretty damn good and my playing is heavily influenced by his stuff at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,977 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Izzy stradlin from GNR is great rythym guitarist, and sometimes swaps lead with Slash, I'd say he has the strongest rythym guitar of any guitarist I know


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Oeneus


    Giblet, you are SOOOOOO right! Izzy Stradlin forever!


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Good for beginners...
    Dream Theater - Blind Faith
    and
    Steve Vai - Erotic Nightmares

    No bother to you my son... ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭Scon


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
    Good for beginners...
    Dream Theater - Blind Faith
    and
    Steve Vai - Erotic Nightmares

    No bother to you my son... ;)

    Add 'Stream' by Tim Reynolds to that list and you've got a triple bill of easies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭NeMiSiS


    Hmmm..

    Learn your scales/chords/modes/rythm paterns (strumming patterns),but dont get to much into the whole theory of it can be very daunting..like thats the part that wrecks my head and i think sometimes ya loose the soul of what your trying to learn/play/develop/ .. when it comes down to it..your looking to find your groove not study notation & not sit in front of a book playing some other dewds stuff.. :)

    Listen to lots of music too,evrything and anything
    Blues/Country/Jazz/Rock/Metal/Whateva Im not saying all of those generes will appeal to you..but ya get more scales into your brain , more strumming patterns etc.Tom Morello from RATM well not anymore..says he gets inspirations from speechs and stuff by ppl like Martin Luther King.

    Also dont over practice you will end up hating your guitar take a break every half or so,like you should with normal studying if ya dont give your brain time to rest nothing sinks in.

    And dont define yourself as a rythm or lead guitar learn to do both like a rythm player can add solos and licks into his/her rythm i think its bull**** to say one or the other,your a guitar player,simple. Look at Jimi Hendrix for gods sake he could play em both at the same time eitherway you gotta be able to keep time,if ya cant do that ya might as well take up Jazz (couldnt resist) ;P

    And dont give up,no one gets good overnite,but when things do click its a great buzz.And never forget why we all took up guitar playing in the first place..to get girls ! Good luck ;)

    NeM


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,977 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    I cant help but think that the outta time jazz comments were aimed at me tom:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭NeMiSiS


    lol it wasnt

    NeM


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