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Paladins Puzzles No.3

  • 23-02-2000 3:45am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭


    You have 9 snooker balls.
    All appear identical.
    One of them however is a slightly different weight to the others but feels the same to ure hand.
    This ball is either lighter OR heavier. You dont know.
    To determine the odd ball ( smile.gif) you have a balance scales.
    You must find the ball in three weighings or less.
    How can you do it?
    Answers must explain FULLY how this is done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭Cloud


    I think I have this one...

    Okay let's say we have three groups of three balls, A, B and C...

    There are a number of cases...

    A and B same weight
    ===================
    Weighing One
    First, take A and B and weigh them.

    If A and B are the same, the odd ball is in C.

    We call the C group C1, C2 and C3.

    Weighing Two
    Then take two balls from C and weigh them (e.g. C1 and C2). If C1
    is the same as C2, then C3 is the heavier or lighter ball. If they
    are different, then take C2 and C3.

    Weighing Three
    If C1 was heavier than C2, then if C2 is lighter than C3, C2 is the
    lighter ball [C2=odd]. If C1 is lighter than C2, then if C2 is
    heavier than C3, C2 is the heavier ball [C2=odd]. If C2 is the same
    weight as C3, then C1 is the heavier or lighter ball [C1=odd].

    .
    .
    .

    A and B not the same weight
    ===========================
    Weighing One
    Now if A and B were not the same weight, well then we know that the
    odd ball is in either A or B.

    Weighing Two
    So we take say group B, and weigh it against C. If it's the same
    weight as C, the odd ball is in A. If not, the odd ball is in B
    (since B cannot be different from both A and C and not have the odd
    ball). Let's call the group that ball is in (be it A or B) X. You
    should now know whether the odd ball is lighter or heavier:

    If A > B and B < C, ball is lighter.
    If A > B and B = C, ball is heavier.
    If A < B and B > C, ball is heavier.
    If A < B and B = C, ball is lighter.

    Weighing Three
    Take two balls X1 and X2 from group X (X1, X2 and X3). Going on
    the condition above, if X1 is not the same as X2 you should know
    which ball is heavier or lighter (and therefore the odd ball).
    Otherwise, if X1 is the same as X2, X3 is the odd ball.

    Where do you want to go inniu?

    [This message has been edited by Cloud (edited 23-02-2000).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan



    2 wieghs

    3 sets of three. weigh 2 sets. if they are equal then the odd ball is in the 3 set
    weigh to balls from the third set..if they are equal then its your last ball
    hey presto

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭Cloud


    Well that's one case wwman.gif - it can't always be done in two, that's just your pure optimism!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Paladin


    Pretty good C
    How long did it take?
    Enjoyed it I hope smile.gif

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    One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    actually its the same in all cases john...
    no matter what whay you look at it it can be done in 2 weighs
    wink.gif


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Paladin


    Im afraid ure wrong wwman smile.gif
    You need 3 weighings to cover all scenarios.
    There are only one or two that cover 2 weighings smile.gif

    One ring to rule them all, One ring to to find them,
    One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭Cloud


    Well it took about 10 minutes or less to figure out, but more like 20 minutes to type up wink.gif

    Where do you want to go inniu?



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