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Musicmaker

  • 07-04-2002 8:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭


    I have noticed a lot of complaints about Musicmaker on these, and other forums. I think the problem is that when you go in for the first time, most people are amazed at the quantity of guitars there, and the wide varity of amps, and of course, the sheer size of it. What most people quickly learn is that the staff are the most stuck up, arrogant, up their own arses, pile of eejits in any music store in town. I remember being in there once and overhearing a conversation about how they dont like people playing the guitars. It went along the lines of "Yeah were not gonna end up like waltons, all kiddies playing guitar and leaving"
    Granted, I understand why they would think like this, but waltons sells alot of guitars to "kiddies" due to musicmakers overbearing staff. I've often heard people ask for strings, beginners mind, only to be laughed at and told something like "Oh jesus how am I supposed to know what you want" I remember when I started a few years back and went into waltons and asked something like "Eh can i have the lightest string for an acoustic, the bottom one, ya know" and though they probably were laughing to themselves, they still got the most common brand of strings, took out a high E and sold it to me. And I was as happy as larry.
    I Remember going into Musicmaker to look at some guitars. They would be checking on me every five minutes to see what I was doing. I got asked to leave about 10 minutes later, because I was "only messing about".
    I started to lose confidence in Musicmaker then. But the final straw was last year. My friend and I went in to check out some basses which he had planned to buy. Again with the staring, but we left nearly straight away after he made up his mind. The next week he went in and bought a Fender Jazz American series, much to the delight of the staff, BUT, he got absolutly NO time to play it. He had five minutes in a noisy room full of staff playing w@nk on the guitars. He still bought it and next week wanted to buy an amp. Again me and him went into Musicmaker and were checking out a new trace elliot when staff mosied on over and began staring, he explained to the staff that he wanted to buy this amp, and explained he was there last week buying a Jazz bass. They let him try it out this time, and it was all going well; for 2 minutes, He was quickly interupted by an seemingly more "important" customer, wanting to buy a bass. Who wanted to use that amp to test it out, bearing in mind he stated that he hadn't got that amp or planned to buy it, but that it "looked nice" He left, got his amp elsewhere for cheaper (actually he got the limited edition version of it). These are nothing compared to the strories i've heard by other people, but it shows they don't care about anyone unless they have money. Since then i have had trouble recommending that store to anyone. And what they dont seem to realise is that if somebody goes into a store and plays a guitar, granted they may not buy it but, what happens alot is that they would recommend the shop the had just been in and say stuff like "oh i seen this sweet guitar in xxxxx for x amount.
    I have done this alot as i enjoy looking at new guitars. Thats probably one the reasons I go into musicain alot. They have a more professional attitude to their customers, and can help anyone from beginners to pros. And their damn cheap. ('cept for the PRS guitars :)) Thats were i got my SD hotrails from, and you can't get them in most places.
    The only person in my band who still goes there is my drummer,
    and jesus the stories he tells me about it.

    ps. I dont work for musician inc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Drunk pirate


    First of all i'd like to congratulate you on your (so true) post about music maker! It's about time someone made it clear! ON NUMEROUS ocasions I have been asked to leave that store because "You can't just walk around here pretending you play guitar-now get out" I really feel like punching one of em in the face!

    Every time I go in there I plan what i'm gonna do. In order to buy something I have to walk around quickly pretending to be serious costomer and hurry the fu(k up buying the item/s before I get kicked out. Those guys have some nerve. One time (two years ago) I walk into music maker and ask to play a guitar in the corner the guy said " the leads are all in use" even though nobody was playing the guitars.Then he goes " All your gonna do is show off in front of your friends" even though I was trying to buy this guitar for ages.

    I don't think waltons is very good ether-all though the staff are good,the prices are outrageous.

    All I do is go to musician now. I have to agree the servise is excellent and the stuff is quite cheap. I'm surprised the staff in music maker are not all fired!

    oh and who is that guy on your signiture giblet?

    DP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Well I don't go into waltons that much because there is no guitars of worth there. Except behind the Desk. But if you do go to buy something they will let you test it out. They let people try out Gibsons in a seperate room.
    It think the manager guy of musicmaker just lets his friends hang out there and "pretend" to work, because theres hardly anyone in there buying stuff, less a few misguided souls who insist on buying their BC Richs. When will they learn to buy them in America. A Musicmaker BC Rich is not the same quality of the ones in That Slash uses.Oh And Mockingbird over Warlock anyday. Thats if I Had to go for a BC RICH. Because Slashes one is Sweet. :)

    EDIT: He's The One, The Only: Andy Kaufman (as latka)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Drunk pirate


    Yeah I thought it was him-tHats the guitar that I wanted to buy for years....THE MOCKIN' BUURRD....*druel*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Mr .Bungle


    The Mockingbird is quite the ugly duckling tho. I'm getting my Warlock off an American site www.music123.com for $299. And its a NJ series as well. Full warrenty etc as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Better hope thats not busted up, tis second hand :|

    nt_mockingbird.jpg

    now that's a BCRICH baby!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭NeMiSiS


    Agreed,Music Maker are ****ing pathetic I hate every asshole that works there,they dont treat you as if your a customer they treat you like your there to abuse the guitars allmost,ive gone in there many times to look at stuff which if I liked I had the intention of buying and I have never been anything but ****ed around..they also seemed to be amazed at the fact that I own a Gibson Les Paul..,another e.g. of how they are complete dicks..

    Id bought strings in there ernie ball 10's,now it just so happend that within a week 3 friends of mine had bought the same strings (from music maker) and they were snapping on all our guiatrs within 2 days,giblet will vouch for this as he was one of the guys who had the problem with the strings.. anyways I mentioned it to the guys in music maker and 5 ! of them concluded that it was a problem with my guitar even though i pionted out that my friends were having the same problem i found it very hard to belive that my 1800 quid guitar was anything but perfect..they actully said 'Well we're a shop and your just a customer so we know better' I told em to **** off ..they are just cocky pricks who know one or two decent riffs on a guitar so they plug it in and play their signiture riff and think they ****ing kick ass..truth be known they are insecure little ****s who just hate the fact that theres guitar players coming in everyday that piss all over them.

    as for waltons I cant say ive had much bother with them..I bought the Les Paul off em and i got at least 300 quids worth of free stuff plecs strings a case etc..but the case was all my doing..and they let me play whatever I want when I go there..but id never buy anything off them again I deal with a fella in Athy called Peader for my amps and he sorts me out all the time he actully dropped a JCM 1960 4* 12 cab to my house for my to try b4 i bought if anyone wants his num pm me I just dont want to be advertising directly

    all the best
    nem

    just another note,american bc riches kick ass and are better made and slash's is actully a custom job worth in and around 2500 irish,music maker do actully have a guitar of that standard which is the custom made you see hanging up as you come in with the shamrock on it behind the counter signed by mr rich himself..not such a big deal he signed all hand mades up until his death worth investing in actully if your after a guitar that will acumulate in value..i played a beautiful neck through in music maker not so long ago that i wanted to buy but when i got round to it..it had been sold..im still willing to buy it if the guy is out there..its a natural finish neck through mockingbird it was going for 650 i.e. punts at the time..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Oeneus


    I haven't bought anything from Music Maker and I'm dame sure I never will.

    I have a dramatic story to tell about me buying my Slash Signature Les Paul from Walton's. I bought it back 2 times for repairs, and its soon to go for a 3rd.

    Took it back to repair a dodgy switch. I got it back being told it was fixed and it wasn't. I got on to the manager about it, and he admitted that it was probably never touched. The second time the problem was fixed but they had no replacement switches as I requested which it will go back for. Plus theybroke my case so they're giving me a new one. Crap service but they did appologise and were friendly.

    Someone should really tell these shops about these complaints. Maybe send links to these threads. Anyone got their email addresses? (waltons and Musicmaker)

    p.s. And damn, the standard mockingbird has like 1 switch and 2 knobs where's the Slash Siggy has like 20....Georgeous! The Slash sig Guild doubleneck is pretty damn pleasing, too. Godbless....Slash! AAAhaa! Saviour of the universe!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    for sure, musician or instrumental are your only man!

    BomB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    They had a Epiphone Double neck in Waltons. Dunno if it's still there or not. Last time I seen it, it was behind the counter. It used to be out on the racks. I played it and it was fun to do some Jimmy page stuff, but the intonation was fecked on it. I wouldn't want to be the man fixing the intonation on a 12 String! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    its in frederick st now

    bomb


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    Originally posted by bombidol
    for sure, musician or instrumental are your only man!

    BomB

    Ha ha... Instrumental??? It took me a fúckin year to get my drum stool off them!!! A year! When they delivered my kit, it was missing various pieces as well, fúckin sham!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    not a drummer so i dont know what teh story is with their percussion stuff, they seem sound though, and usually have a decent selection. Whats rocksteady like for drum stuff?

    bomb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Thomas from Presence


    In fairness to instrumental I've spent over £3000 since they opened and have had no trouble or hastle. Musician Inc is good on the service but the price is insane. I bought my E-bow in their for £130 and it was selling in da U.k. for £65 sterling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    Originally posted by bombidol
    not a drummer so i dont know what teh story is with their percussion stuff, they seem sound though, and usually have a decent selection. Whats rocksteady like for drum stuff?

    bomb

    Rocksteady are good for accessories and ****, cheap enough as far as I can tell. I don't often shop for drum stuff as I'm quite often broke! I reckon Music Maker is the best for drum stuff really, there's other places I haven't checked out though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Yeah my drummer gets all his stuff in Musicmaker. There still show offs, but they have good stuff so I hear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Drunk pirate


    I'll try and e-mail this to music maker and waltons. Oeneus's story was totaly unexceptable. I'd sue the bastards!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Drunk pirate


    Oh and I e-mailed musicmaker this thread and i'm still waiting on a reaply...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    You know, I'm probably the only person hear who likes Musicmaker.

    Flame away.

    Personaly, I've NEVER had a string break on me in my life.
    (I use D'addario "10 strings, in case anyone cares.)

    The guys in there are cool, I always seem to get on with them, and they never stare at me at all... And I've spent as long as an hour in there on several occasions playing various different guitars. On choosing my current guitar (BC Rich - Virgin NJ series) I spent the whole day playing as many different guitars as I could.
    I've played an Angus Young signiature model in there before, without even pretending I wanted to buy it. Whereas I was turned down before in another shop (Can't remember the name of it) when I wanted to play one of the ESP guitars, and making a serious offer to buy it.

    I've got a lead from there that I got free when I bought my guitar, gold plated one too, not cheap! And that bastard of a lead is still going when I've gone through a good few others that I've gotten localy (I live in Galway).

    I got nothing against the place, I think it's great, and I'm definetly buying more stuff there. Never had a bad turn in the place at all.

    And BTW, NO! I do not work for them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Mr .Bungle


    Gib, the guitar is brand new, even has a 30 day money back guarentee. And a full warrenty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    !!

    The only Warlock NJ I seen there for $299 was in the Scratch and Dent section. Are you sure?

    It either that you are getting one of them
    You got a VERY good deal
    Or
    You've ****ed up and got a bronze series!


    Have you a link to the actual page where it shows the guitar?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    I have to say AngelWhore, you were very lucky.
    I replace my strings every few weeks regardless of if there broken or not. So I have to deal with a lot of guitar shops.
    Best prices are still TopTwenty in Naas. Though they have a sh*t selection. The Bronze Martins are good for the ol' acoustic. All my Strings are now Gold coloured, and there a very good make, for only €5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 music maker


    I’ve read the thread that was emailed to me and I must say I’m shocked!
    It’s often very hard to know what people think of the shop here, the only way is if people tell us. I am very very disappointed that so many of you feel that you have and are treated so badly by members of staff. I even recognised one of the stories about the Eirne Ball strings breaking because I was there and I’m sorry that the customer felt so insulted it was not intentional – but he didn’t tell anyone to **** off!!

    I can assure all of you that we don’t think that everyone that walks through the door is an idiot. Our staff have a lot of experience in their field, that’s not to say that aloofness or an attitude is acceptable!

    All that I can suggest for now is that if you feel that you have not been treated as you should – with respect – you can contact me directly contact by email or phone in confidence. This is the only way that we will know how you feel and I will try to sort things out for you.

    Yours
    Mark Walsh
    Manager

    mark@musicmaker.ie
    01 6779004 ext 210
    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭NeMiSiS


    I just dont think you heard me I was kinda on the way out the door pissed off when i said it but I assure you I did ;)
    well congrats on that post i didnt expect to see anything like that here ! you've realy up'ed yourself in my books.

    Like man simple things Ive been in there asking about an arial for a wireless guitar system I bought from you its a byer dynamic and one of your guys said well you could build one pretty easily ! like you stock the stuff could he not have offered to order one in ? I think now its need of repair *shrug*

    Ill admit you we're helpful when i was asking about cabs,but patronizing at the same time,but when i originally asked via email i didnt get a reply for 2 weeks.

    Bitching aside ya have great stock and great guitars and newest amps and pedals just saleman ship leaves alot to be desired

    well done on the explanation and apology ..

    nem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Well I do appreciate you responding to the Thread, and hope you can sort out the problems people are having with the store. Bear in mind this is not some childish attack because i'm pissed off with not being able to play guitars. Its just that many people are put off by the attitude that they are getting from some of the staff. I have bought loads of things from Musicmaker, but what some staff don't seem to understand is that just because the person isn't loaded with money at the time there in the store, doesn't mean that they are there to mess about. Granted a few do, but on many occasions I have gone in to check prices and compare guitars and would feel uncomfortable being there due to the staff being overprotective. I've have come away from there sometimes feeling as though they don't want anyone in the store. The store should definatly be more user friendly.

    EDIT: Yeah Nem, I emailed them about my pickup before christmas, and got no reply, which could've saved me a trip. I went in instead but they didn't have it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    I must admit music makers reply was a stand up thing, it shows that maybe they give a sh1t about their customers. I must admit i have bought things in there before, i bought a delay pedal there a few weeks ago, and things werent that bad, i sat there and played bass for a while and messed with a few of the guitars and nobody said a thing to me, now i must admit that if they did say anything to me that was based in spite or anything like that i would just tell them to **** off, its one thing if they say sorry you cant play guitar anymore but if they said turn that off you are **** or something I would be liable to get up a slap him with the guitar.
    But like i said i have had very few problems with them, i got a Pearl Jazz fusion Kit, A 80 Watt Marshall Guitar amp, Delay pedals, Hihats, cables Etc there and i would like to think i am respected as a customer and im entitled to go in and have a look without getting harassed or asked to leave.
    The only issue i have with them is that they dont do Ibanez but i can just go across the road to get one.
    One thing shops like this need is somekind of loyalty card cause you are never done buying and it would be nice to think you would get a discount if you bought all your stuff in the one shop.

    Bomb


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭the_corpo


    loyalty card, eh?

    that's a super smart idea


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 §corpion


    Mark,

    Some of your staff are indeed cretins. In particular there's one obnoxious little ponce with a skin head and a beard?

    I was enquiring as to where I might buy an AC adapter for my outdated DOD FX pedal and the guy thought he'd never get me out of the shop quick enough.

    It turns out you didn't have the adapter I was looking for so I asked if any of the other guitar shops might stock them and I got: '*shrug*.. try them.'

    Tosser.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    That probably is Mark

    BomB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    yes i reckon the loyalty card would be a good idea too

    bOmB


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭the fnj


    I’ve had mixed experiences in there.

    When I was getting my first electric I went around town trying to play as many guitars in my price range. I had been in two or three shops already and they were all really helpful. When I went into music maker I met the most patronising ****wit. I went up and asked him to show my what guitars he had in my price range and the style I wanted. He brought me over to the squire strats and proceeded to point at each one going there’s a blue one, there’s a red one, over there we have a white one. Granted I was a beginner and I did not know much about guitars but I did not deserve that sort of treatment. I wanted a guitar to play to colour code with my hair, as far as this guy was concerned I was some punk taking up guitar to look cool. I left when he was about to show me a black guitar and went of and both a similar guitar in Walton’s. PS I am not colour blind.

    About a year later being a more accomplished musician I went to buy myself a nice new amp. My small twenty-watt practice amp was dieing so I decided to splash out and by something that will last me for years and will be loud enough to play live. Again I went around a few of the music shops with my guitar so I could try out the various amps in my price range. When I got to music maker the guy this time was far more helpful. He recommended a Marshall amp and brought me over to try it out. He even turned it up really loud just so I could hear how it performed when being pushed. He then left me to play for about half an hour let me try out a few others but I went and bought the Marshall.

    I think it’s one guy in particular that seems to annoy most people. Everybody I know who has had trouble in there it has come from the big skinhead guy.

    Anyway my two cents.

    PS I appreciate the reply from music maker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 music maker


    hi again
    If you have a particular problem or request I will try and help you out. Mail me:
    mark@musicmker.ie

    As for me being the skinhead with the beard I’m sorry to say that I have got a bald head but not by design. I think I know The guy you are talking about.

    Please let me know when the staff ( even if it is me) aren’t cool and I’ll do something about it.

    Yours
    Mark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Drunk pirate


    What a thread-I'm glad to hear from music maker and I belive they might have some good parts but I do realise that they don't pay enought attension to the younger crowd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    I've never had a thread stir up so much controversy.
    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭El_Presidente


    In fairness now they aren't all bad.

    I was in there 2 days ago looking at some Taylor acoustics and the guy I was dealing with was very friendly. He had no problem digging out the 3 models I wanted to look at from the back store and didn't give me and **** at all even though I spent a good hour playing the 3 guitars.

    They are (as far as I know) the only store in Ireland that stocks Taylors so if I do end up buying one I guess I'm going to have to deal with them or buy on-line (Not something I want to do for the amount of money involved)

    I have heard some bad stories about their after sales service so I guess anyone buying out of there (or anywhere else for that matter) should be damn sure what they are getting before they buy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Oeneus


    I learned this fact from going into Music shops in the UK.

    Staff with long hair tend to be the best in terms of friendliness, knowledge and wailing on the old axes!
    :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭trent_derby


    Ive been in there a lot of times getting drum equipment and drum orientated gear, but i will say that there is a lot of pretentiousness with the guitar section, eg. I walked in and asked for a set of gibson strings(i play accoustic too) and the assistant said "Why would you want them when gibson dont even make them?!" i mean come on man, what the **** do i care??? also one of my friends had a similar experience with his first guitar purchase, he was in the shop trying out a jackson electric, only knowing two chords and not good at strumming. The assistant ( or unassistant) went over and had the cheek to ask tell him that if he wasnt serious about the guitar to put it down, the main bit i remember was "Guitars cost money, guitar lessons cost money". That was when i was 16, im now 21 and i still feel aprehensive about going into the guitar section. Most of the stuff i buy is in rocksteady, the staff are all pretty sound and will take the time to ask you about other things, what music do you play and they are not judgemental on ability either. Maybe an important thing to remember is that a lot of these bitter salespeople are probably failed musicians themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 323 ✭✭Khynareth


    Originally posted by trent_derby
    Maybe an important thing to remember is that a lot of these bitter salespeople are probably failed musicians themselves.

    Eu Euhm...

    Sorry, but I must point out that in there you have people playing in two well known and well appreciated Irish Bands (i.e. Blotooth & Skyjack), and they are not failed musician... They are, on the contrary very good at what they are doing...

    Now for the friendliness of the staff, I often find their moods (and thus my experience in the shop), as variable as the Irish weather...

    But I never had such a bad experience as described above...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    I feel I shall have to add my weight to the opinions on Music-Maker.

    I've been playing music since I was about 5. I'm now 23, and play 3 instruments, electric-guitar amongst them. Needless to say, I've been aroudn a LOT of music stores (instrumental or music-script, not all of them in this country either), and I do have to say that the ONE store that I am always very apprehensive about entering is Music-Maker.

    Whilst I've never had a confrontation or problem per-se, the attitude and general demeanour of quite a few of the staff has been anything but friendly, ranging from the down-right condescending to "oh f*cks sake .. another custmer - when will they ever f*cking learn to f*cking leave me alone when I'm f*cking talking to my f*cking mates" etc.etc.

    In fairness, the last time I was there (a few months ago at this point) the guy behind the counter was bang-on and very helpful.

    The other redeaming feature was the fact that they deal in PRS .. mmmmmmm .... PRS Dragon III (never in this lifetime mind you) :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Oeneus


    Something tells me these guys really need to recruit or either drop prices considerably low.
    Sh1t service, no pay!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Trev M


    Now here's a funny thing, when I first read this thread I though hhhmmpphh no surprises here, but on reflection I think my experience this Saturday was a little different than in previous years , funny cause I hadn't been in the place in about three years cause I got a bad buzz last time and have had similar experiences to the above.
    Anyway, I spoke with Daragh, he would be the chap with the long red hair and plays bass in Blo tooth. Daragh was very helpful as I explained what I wanted , why I was changing guitar and what sound I was going for, although he was trying to sell me a guitar he did offer some impartial advice too which I though was decent enough.


    Now here's the thing, when I was trying guitars, I felt more irritated by what was going on around me than by any seemingly negative vibe from the staff(coz there was no negative vibe). I think alot of this thread has to do with a couple of factors, firstly I was in the place half an hour and felt like killing the chap behind me who insisted on playing the same guitar solo over and over again at a screeching volume until the staff asked him to turn down(politely too I might mention), then a posse of slip knot hoodies arrive and decided to start thrashing an unplugged bass and spouted **** like "mmmm really nice tone and action" he looked like he was choking a cat, and evidently would be better served doing so.

    Now I know people are gonna get onto me here but I think fair is fair, if you approach the guys in a decent enough manner they will respond to you better. I can sympathise with the staff there to a degree, I mean Eight hours in that place would destroy anyones head, imagine five or six days a week??.

    The guys I'd imagine are also on some commission deal and need to sell a guitar every now and then y'know? Lets face it probably five percent or less of "customers" don't really buy anything when they are in the shop...still and all I guess there is no excuse for ignorance and manners cost nothing.


    I just think a lot of people have a gripe with Music Maker and go in with an attitude themselves to start off with....I could be wrong though..maybe try a different approach when you go in. Know what your talkin about as well, the more you know the better value for money you'll get!! By the way Fender are cheaper in music maker than anywhere else I looked on Sat.....again if your approach is right and you know what your talkin about good things can happen!!

    I have a suggestion aswell to beginners, the best time to go into any guitar shop is when its not so busy, assistant will have more time to explain technicalities to ya.
    I understand that there is a level of apprehension to the whole thing, but you won't learn anything by not asking and no one respects a bull - ****ter. Like everything it takes time to develop confidence and confidence comes through experience (some times form bad experience)....you have to make the trip to the shop worth your while, get something from it , show interest and not that your there to jam and "try the shiney guitars". If you are honest with the guy in the shop you'll get a lot further..

    consider a couple of scenarios.

    Bob enters shop,
    Picks up guitar , muddles through a bar of teen spirit, shop assitant comes up almost suicidal..."can I help you?" , Bob says "nah Im fine thanks"....and proceeds to sit there for another twenty minutes driving everyone in place mad until they leave


    Bob enters shop,
    Goes to the counter and says "Hi Im bob, I want to play guitar, Ive just started I like Nirvana etc etc , I would like to buy my first electric guitar soon, can you help me out?"

    I guarantee that the second approach would be met more favourably, for a couple of reasons 1. The assitant automatically knows what your level of interest is and perhaps your budget.
    2. they will put you some where more suitable than sitting in fornt of the new series of Marshall amps, where a guy with experience might be looking to try some out.

    Does anyone here see where Im coming from on this??


    By the way for the record, I did buy a guitar on Saturday but in Musician and not music maker. I don't have a particular problem with any of the stores, like I said I did have my own bad experiences in the past but learned how to deal with these guys and saw where they were at.

    All Im saying is to a point you can let it irritate you, make a complaint and leave it at that, show a little sop on and you'll get further.

    I'll leave now , hope I haven't pissed anyone off !


    All the best
    Trev M


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    No you haven't pissed anyone off, I'd be annoyed too if people slipknot hoodies came in to my store and spouted sh*t, alot of the time they'd release thier anger on anyone. Maybe they have calmed down after the thread was sent to mark, and maybe he gave out to 'em. My experiences came mostly from when there was no-one in the shop except me. Its very un-nerving when they start to look at you. It's like there deciding who'll move in for the kill :):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Bateman


    My mate got the wrong amp from MM before by accident. Saved 30 quid because they gave him the reverb model instead of the one without. They are generally pricks though, we were delighted to get one over them.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Yeah, every time I go in there, theres always an intimadating silence. And it makes you feel like your being watched even maybe if you are not. But they always look straight at you when your going in the door. I suggest that they put on a record to get rid of the silence, thus easing the intimidation. But they still need to sort some of the staff out. And I think they should know who is going to be the trouble makers and who isn't (fairly obvious in my opinion). And lastly, I think they should let people play the instruments as much as they want, as long as they are interested and willing to buy. I know alot of the guitars in there are very expensive and I think that the customers should be reminded of this. If they break it... they pay. If they don't... well and good, you have just helped your reputation. Its simple and all shops do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Oeneus


    It's laak a Stranger wark'n in to a bar in the Waald Waald Wist!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    i bought a mexican strat from them. 3weeks later the strap button fell out. brought it back and that baldy fella made a big deal about fixing it!!

    recently one of the fellas in musician inc worked on my les paul for about 40mins for free. they'll do loads of little touch ups on the house


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Dragging up 6 year old threads is not appreciated.


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