Chechnya.Again.

bugler

Just to keep awareness somewhat alive....

I was reading the guardian and came across this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/chechnya/Story/0,2763,667329,00.html

I read her book, "A dirty war" a few months ago, very interesting. Good to see things from a Russian perspective. Another good book on the conflict is "Crying Wolf", by Vanora Bennet (I think thats her name). The ingrained racism by Russians toward Chechens is perhaps the most striking factor out of that book, which unfortunately only covers the first phase of the Chechen conflict. Anyway, heres a few more links...thought it was about time that the most hellish conflict on earth (possibly) was brought to the fore again, now that everyone is harping on about "terrorists" and the West has stopped even giving token protest to Russia over its criminal war.

http://www.hrw.org/press/2002/03/unchr031402.htm

http://hrw.org/press/2002/02/russia0228.htm

Might try finding a few more later on when I have nothing to do.

Chaos-Engine

There was a piece about "A Dirty War" in a saturday section of an irish times about 6 months ago. I read a god portion of the book in Hughes and Figgs but had no money on me at the time.
Very eye opening.

But the most disturbing thing now is that America activly supports Russian action in Cechnya. Or at least turns a blind eye to it. The Russians are acting just like teh serbs did in Bosnia but the world doesn't know about it and doesn't care either.

I had a russian guys of about 18 yrs of age staying in my house. He ran away from his little town in the Urals and got into Shannon college cause the army had conscribed him in. That means he would probably have ended up in Cechnya if his parents didn't have the dosh to get him into college. He can't return home until he is 25 or they will court-martial him and then but him on the front-line, and by the sounds of the war in the book I would favour permanent exile...
The world needs to know whats going on....

Clintons Cat

The ingrained racism by Russians toward Chechens is perhaps the most striking factor out of that boo

in the recent c4 hidden jihad program, there was an interview with an Asian DJ who went to Moscow for the Millenium cellebrations and ended up being arrested for being suspected of being a chetchen.
Incidently most of the 5000 suspects,mostly of pakistan origin rounded up in america on sept 11 have now been released,or deported for minor visa irregularities.
i'll see if i can refind the article.start here

Clintons Cat

anything is permitted in the name of anti terrorism

Since September 11, the Chinese government has stepped up its harsh repression of ethnic Uighur opponents of Chinese rule and others branded as "separatists" in the name of countering "terrorism", Amnesty International said today in a new report

http://www.religionreview.com/?action=display&article=12636962&template=religionreview/index.txt&index=recent

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,672540,00.html

Boston

im of the firm believe that the bombings which started this war were infact russian in origin. i mean it was all to handy all together, and allowed an ex kgb man to take control who before that nobody knew.

they never did catch anybody for those bombings did they?

bugler

Anyone will do.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,520510,00.html

And look, Russia is getting jumpy about the prospect of war crimes indictments...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/chechnya/Story/0,2763,672699,00.html

Victor

Sorry for dragging up an old thread, but I found this the other day, it dates from 1999. Seems appropriate given recent events.

Sand

Yep, the actions of the Russian "army" ( scum in uniform more like ) are disgusting. They are little better than the terrorists they claim to be fighting in between bouts of drinking, raping, murdering, pillaging and torturing - I have trouble believing animals which would rape dying women can be counted as anything other than subhuman, PC or not.

Prior to his election Bush seemed to be strongly against Russian actions in the region, going so far as to say that American money/economic aid shouldnt be going to the Russians whilst they were acting in such a fashion in a TV interview, but since then he has needed Russian aid in his war against terrorism, the latest being the UN politicking over the Iraq resolution. Whatever he may believe Bush is not going to rock the boat whilst he needs the Russians. Europe doesnt have its hands tied in such a fashion but lacks the ability to project influence - so the ordinary Chechens caught between two tribes of murdering barbarians will continue to live in hell on earth for quite a long time.

bonkey

Originally posted by Sand
Bush is not going to rock the boat whilst he needs the Russians.

You mean like his being OK with the use of gas on a nations own civilians, resulting in deaths, because it was "fighting terrorism", whereas Saddam is a madman because he has used gas on his own civilians, resulting in deaths for some other reason.

Yeah - the US have done a fairly big turnaround on the Russian approach to Chechnya alright, and its pretty obvious why.

jc

Sand

Well Bush certainly has, Its just a pity the Europeans arent willing to step up to the plate and show some leadership on an issue.