Better drivers: men or women?

Bard

Simple question, really.

I say men.

Seriously.

Boston

weman cause more accidents but its allways the men that get caught in the middle of them

The_Bullman

Answer: men.

women have more accidents per mile than men do.

"They do shorter trips, misjudge spaces and get into more knocks around town" -Andrew Howard of the AA

cournioni

Originally posted by The_Bullman
"They do shorter trips, misjudge spaces and get into more knocks around town" -Andrew Howard of the AA

Hey! He's supposed to remain Anonymus if hes in the AA!


Men of course!

elexes

just thought u might like a fact in this

the and is women cause more and are in more

but

men cause more that cost lots more and cause higher deaths .

thats why women get cheeper ins

Meh

Before we get started on the namecalling and accusations of sexism, does anyone actually know of any hard evidence/statistics either way (apart from the fact that insurance companies charge more for male drivers)?

The Clown Man

I read in a survey done on male and female drivers that 83% of female drivers could not make a parallel park the first time round, where as 21% of males had difficulty.

It went on to say that males assume more control over a car due to their having a better understanding of space relations. They say that whereas a man might take a particular curve in the road at a certain speed/angle which might seem mad to a woman, they can usually perform the task just as easily as a woman would at a slower speed.

I can't remember the book in which i read it - i think it was called 'Why men can only do one thing at a time and women can't read maps.' It's a psychology book and is also quite amusing.

But its also a fact that most accidents caused by women are the 'up the arse' kind where the woman would 'forget' to brake at the lights and run up the back of the person in front. Men on the other hand assume that everyone else on the road can drive properly which results in them crashing at greater speeds while driving at the level the women think is too much. Usually, the crashes result in someone else doing something that the man does not expect therefore putting the man in a position where he is no longer able to circumvent the situation. Having said that, most of the time the person that does the thing unexpected has done nothing wrong - it's just that it wouldn't have been the thing the man would have done himself.

So as far as crashes are concerned, the women have many stupid, light damage crashes whereas the men have fewer, more costly crashes resulting from their relatively stupid idea that everyone on the road has a brain.

Blade

Obviously men are better drivers otherwise it would be Michelle Schumacher kickin @ss in formula 1. Women are just anoyingly carefull and would jam on the breaks when they come to a tight squeaze that us men could fit a bus through and in turn this would cause the bloke behind to crash into her because he wasn't expecting such a sudden panic from the woman infront. Having said that I always keep my feicin distance esp when I see someone drive like that in front of me, you'll usually spot early warning signs like the breaks going on 100 feet before the traffic lights.

SantaHoe

Women are far better drivers... men deserve to pay higher premiums because of the whole penis thing.
Silly poll though really... what defines a 'good driver'?
Having no accidents? or being able to take an 'S' bend at 120MPH?
I'd say men are better at the whole driving skill bit (better depth-perception apparently), but male drivers are so cockey and haven't a clue how not to kill people on our roads.
Women don't seem to have the same asshóle show-off "ooh look at me! I'm driving dangerously! I'm mad I am" thing happening as some of the guys do. (Note: most/all "joyriders" are male)
Men only seem to cop on after the age of 30.

Anyone got any (real) statistics on fatal road accidents?
Who's dead behind the wheel most often? men or women?
Who fails the breathalizer test more often?

Who's going to admit to being a crap driver anyway?

Yurmasyurda

I think either / or, it's too hard to pick one. Mainly because there are terrible male drivers and terrible women drivers. So I'm neutral.

PS. You'd definitely know there aint many women posting on these boards with the result outcome

rymus

Originally posted by SantaHoe
Women are far better drivers... men deserve to pay higher premiums because of the whole penis thing.

Its nice to see such a well thought out logical argument from someone... Kudos on churning out that line of utter crap.

I can sympathise with your post blade. only this evening on my way to work I was behind a driver who thought it necessary to brake every 200 yards despite being in the fast lane of a dual carriageway with no traffic in front of her (and yes, before you feminists hang me - it was a woman... I made sure to check before I commented on her extreemely shoddy driving)


But on a different note - whats the female equivilent of a boy racer? are there any? because I'm damn sure I spotted one tonight in a yellow corsa or some piece of crap that looked like a budgie anyway..

chernobyl

Originally posted by rymus




But on a different note - whats the female equivilent of a boy racer?

The accident you just passed by...

SantaHoe

Originally posted by rymus
Its nice to see such a well thought out logical argument from someone... Kudos on churning out that line of utter crap.

Why thank you dear, I do try.
It was a subtle fun-poke at the attitudes of Irish insurance companies, and quite an blatant píss take ... I apologise if it appeared to be any attempt at "logical argument", and hope it hasn't sullied the rest of said post.

But on a different note - whats the female equivilent of a boy racer?

A girl racer? (at a guess?)

SantaHoe

Originally posted by Yurmasyurda
I think either / or, it's too hard to pick one. Mainly because there are terrible male drivers and terrible women drivers. So I'm neutral.

That's pretty much the stance I had when I first spotted this thread, but then I thought it would be fun to play devils advocate for a bit.

mike65

There no better or worse only different way of doing the same task.

Young men do it with excess confidence in thier skills, women do it with insuffiecent confidence in thier own abilities hence the
female driver doing 40 on a dual carrigeway, or braking everytime a vehicle comes the other way on a single carrige road. The female driver is also often worryingly indecisive.

Blokes meanwhile too often belive there really is nothing around the next corner.

Regarding parallel parking, women are just hopless!

Mike.

leeroybrown

Personally I think that there is:

A far higher percentage of lunatic young male drivers. (The kind you meet doing 60 out over the white line while they take a bend to the right.)

A far higher percentage of in-attentive, nervous female drivers.


I'd have to say men.

Although, that said I do know quite a few good women drivers

Kali

could have sworn there was a motors board... yep its still there.

Samba

Well, here is my say on the matter, ive been in two serious motor accidents in my life, the first involved a superman flight over the top of a car having come off a motorbike at 60 miles an hour, this was due to a woman who pulled right out infront of me, it was also discovered tha she was over the limit, the second which occured on a french motorway where my car was lifted 2 metres off the ground and sent flying in to a ditch, the second accident was caused by a young woman obviously showing off to the hitch hiker she had in the car wh was 30 miles over the speed limit.


Needless to say i am not fond of women drivers, i feel that they make too many silly mistakes i.e not looking in their mirror while changing lane etc(nearly came off my bike a second time 2 weeks after the original accident).

However i am sick to death of boy racers with their Ford Escorts who have watched the fast and the furious one time too many, they are the ones who cause death on our roads.

Tbh perfectly honest i feel that the standard of driving in ireland is woeful, compared to the U.K or europe

This reflects the fact that up until a year ago any spotty teenager who was 16 could obtain a driving license with no test whatsoever and possibly no driving experience could be insured and driving on the road, hence they have never been instructed.

This to me is an outrage(was more to the point)

Lister

From personnel experience women are worse drivers.
But we still love 'em :cool:

mike65

All true Samba and then theres' a whole generation still on the roads who never took a test to get a full licence and I don't mean the 1980's' "amnesty" crowd, but all drivers who hit the roads before 1963 (I think it is).

Mike.

amp

Well I didn't vote cos in my experience it's not about gender it's about age and experience.

And Bard, just cos your one of them there Atari Jag haters don't mean you shouldn't include an "other" option.

Nexus

I dont really care... i just hate the price of insurance for men!. those bastards!

Bard

Originally posted by amp

And Bard, just cos your one of them there Atari Jag haters don't mean you shouldn't include an "other" option.

Oh amp who art so wise, perhaps you'd like to explain to me what other options there are/should be?

It's a straight simple question... men or women.

"Don't knows" or "don't cares" are therefore "don't votes".

Dr. Loon

Originally posted by Bard


Oh amp who art so wise, perhaps you'd like to explain to me what other options there are/should be?

It's a straight simple question... men or women.

"Don't knows" or "don't cares" are therefore "don't votes".

It's not that simple though. Nothing is... I reckon this is a moronic post, much like Amp. Isn't it a basic fact that most road deaths are attributed to men? I'm not going to research this, I never research anything, but I'm going to wildly assume this fact. If men kill more people on roads than women do, then that means we are shíte drivers. Full stop. There can be no other argument. If we kill more people, we are worse drivers.

I was going to post a much more abusive shpeel on the politics board, but I thought this would be ok... am I being too strong? Too racist? Sexist? Too nice? Cursing too much? Or am I drunk?

Enygma

"Don't knows" or "don't cares" are therefore "don't votes".

Yet still people ring in to phone-in polls to vote "Don't know"

I've only been on the road for a year and a half, and I've seen women do really really stupid things, like taking off at a roundabout and suddenly changing their mind, doing their make-up whilst driving down a really narrow street, actually looking at their friends when the talk to them(*).

But then there's the "young male" in his souped-up Punto (or Civic if you're from Cork ), this should really be another category in the poll. These guys seem to think everythings a race. Peeling off at traffic lights in built up areas, doing 80-90 on winding country roads, crossing over the white line, overtaking at corners etc.
Makes you realise why you're paying so much insurance.

I'm afraid I'd have to say "Women & young men", because let's face it, there are some complete morons sitting behind the wheel out there.

(*) When I was young my friends mother used to turn around to talk to us in the back seat whilst driving. She used to scare the sh*t out of use, surprisingly she never crashed.

Khynareth

Why isn't there a neither? I don't think it makes a real difference, you have good and bad drivers in both categories. Men are usually too daring, women generally not enough... But the 2 classes are, to my mind, equally dangerous...
Moderation in driving is something that should apply to everybody. Excess in anything (that has wheels and engine) is a risk to self and others... Excess in the rest is, well, your own problem/pleasure...

Makaveli

Wasnt this always going to be a biased poll with more guys than girls here.
I voted women anyway because from what Ive seen they are worse, Im scared to get into cars with some women.
And what is this idea they have that they should drive around the whole time in 1st and 2nd gear? My friends mother has wrecked 2 cars due to this

Enygma

And what is this idea they have that they should drive around the whole time in 1st and 2nd gear?

yeah my mom wrecked her car doing this too, she's goes up to third on the dual carriageway sometimes. Fecks up the car.

MelKor

cars, woman, reality

WHAT IS THIS MADDNESS



women are waay better drivers (snigger)

seamus

Originally posted by The Clown Man
.................
I can't remember the book in which i read it - i think it was called 'Why men can only do one thing at a time and women can't read maps.' It's a psychology book and is also quite amusing.
.................

It's called "Why men don't listen and women can't read maps" by Barbara and Allan Pease. Great book, a must for anyone in a relationship.

All the right points have been made here. How do you define 'good' driver? Is a good driver someone who can navigate the entire N81 without ever touching the brakes (like me )? Then men are better drivers. Or is it someone who is a good driver as would be defined by the rules of the road? Then women would be.
Men drive based on their own judgement of how to do things. Women drive the way they were taught. To me it looks obvious that the way men drive is far superior, but then I am a male driver.

But of course men kill more people because they take risks. 99.9% of these risks are well justified and perfectly safe, but it's that 0.1% that kills people. Men are far more likely to drink and drive. And with 3 pints on them, men become like women who drive at speed and take unnecessary risks. Bad combination.

And yes, I found myself criticising my mother's driving (with 30 years experience) when I had been only driving 6 months.

It's one of those eternal struggles, never to be resolved.

Samba

Well just back from the dentist and witnessed the most hilarious thing involving two women drivers, one was pulling out of a space and the other started reversing in to the space from which the other car was leaving, the two cars reversed in to eachother crunching both their back bumpers, they didnt realise a thing and the two of them just drove off, i was in tears for about a half hour


Classic example of one of those little knocks...

mike65

Anyone remember that story from last year in England with the two women fighting for a space in the central divide of a wide street which was caught on CCTV.Push me pull you! Great stuff, you dont see men doing that sort of thing.

amp

Originally posted by Bard


Oh amp who art so wise, perhaps you'd like to explain to me what other options there are/should be?

It's a straight simple question... men or women.

"Don't knows" or "don't cares" are therefore "don't votes".

"Neither", would be my choice, and a valid (and indeed wise) one at that.

Oh and Seamus, isn't the N81 wonderfull? It's got more curves than Jennifer Connelly.

Mossy Monk

out of the options given i have given women the vote. i have seen women do a lot more dangerous driving. it is the same when they are passengers, with some of the women i know at least. screaming about hitting something which is about 20 meters or so away. while doing so putting off the driver. the option that should be included is the elderly. loads of them don't have a clue. i have seen them going through the middle of roundabouts of all things and sitting so upright there is a space of about a meter between the seat and their back

NeRb666

MEN

because I am one

All these stats claiming men are responsible for more road deaths etc., how exactly are these compiled? For example, I'm driving home late at night, within the speed limit, sober and what not, drunk person walks out in front of me, gets killed. Do the stats record this as being a male causing a death on the road?

Blitzkrieger

The answer is : men are better drivers.

You're all agruing about who's a safer driver

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21663

NeRb666

hmmm

he's right you know

Commence sexism!

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by Mossy Monk
out of the options given i have given women the vote.

looking at this thread again i have read the question wrong. women are the worst offenders not men.

Missy

not to point out the obivious but who bring the insurance up.........????? in reality, men do! see this is another one of those threads that can go on and on til it loses all meaning. my vote goes to women, they are the better driver!!!:D

Irish_Ranger_IR

Not all Women are bad Drivers.
But, all Bad Drivers are Women Drivers!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheez

Men (when they're sober

Samba

Originally posted by Missy
not to point out the obivious but who bring the insurance up.........????? in reality, men do! see this is another one of those threads that can go on and on til it loses all meaning. my vote goes to women, they are the better driver!!!:D

Yes this is true missy,


But were you aware that any time some scumbag goes out and robs a car and they crash it, that that gets added in to the statistics of male car colisions.

Now i dont believe ive ever heard of a case of a woman joy rider have you?

Anyone know on average how many cars in Dublin a night get stolen joy rided and crashed, i think it would be a very interesting figure.


I also feel that men are often too cocky at the wheel and hence this is why you see boy racers accelerating from 0 to 60 mph between speed bumps which are 100 m apart from eachother.

lame.

I know a group of young folks who are mechanics and they all drive Escorts and they think they are the dogs bollicks, but in reality they are the ones most likely to cause death on the road and i honestly think that they go on like this to impress the trophy girlfriend in the front seat or just to look cool.

Now Ireland is renound to be a claiming nation(it has the most expensive insurance for the whole of the e.u) and always has been, people will go to any extent to try and get a few quid off the insurance companies, i would imagine it is men that make the majority of claims, what else do we now about human nature that in general greed seems to appeal more to men than women.

money power etc.

In France the difference in price of insurance between men and women is next to none! explain that for me?

Well, vehicles that crash with no insurance do not get accounted for within their statistics.


My point is not men are better drivers (which they are )

My point is that the basis on which these claims are made are absoloutly herendous.

SHAMAN

Originally posted by Bard
Simple question, really.

I say men.

Seriously.

Ur right.Women Have lots of small crashes, but men are usually responsible for the serious crashes.
So really women crash more often than men.

Lemming

Men are more adaptable behind the wheel than women (as someone pointed out about women driving the way they're taught). I've seen (from the wrong end of another car), women freezing 20 metres from another car that's jsut pulled out and ploughing straight into the side of the car after realising to break only 10 5ft away in the wet and rain.

I've seen absolutely down right dangerous women drivers, but not because of speeding or any attrocious handling of their cars - indecision. Doing something so totally unexpected to anyoen else on the road that it causes an accident.

BUT ... men do tend to have more serious accidents (due to speed), and also our insurance may be that little bit higher because we tend to be far more prepared to claim for the slightest knock to our "pride and joy", etc.

Note: I do not drive, but have arrived at this from YEARS of observation