Eircom ADSL

Celt

My parent got a phonecall from them saying that it would be becoming available in april.
Is this bull****?

THE SPERMINATOR

I dont dout dublin will get adsl in a limited capacity.Sounds like your going to be one of the lucky ones.Im sure Eircom wouldnt pish you about no way not our beloved Eircom.


Stone

Lenny

but then again, this could be all misleading info
trying to get people to stay on eircom and not switch to ntl

Leverz

If they don't compete, and supply what they say, they will loose their customers anyway.
Just read the fine print, make sure they ain't fking about as usual.

our Beloved Eircom, pah!

[This message has been edited by Leverz (edited 22-02-2001).]

Celt

I just switched to NTL ( ) but i dont think i will get cable until after april just to see, if they really are offering 1.5mb dsl.

THE SPERMINATOR

Mad fool that i am ive just upgraded my chrorus account to digi got a 76 rating 80 being the highest 69 the lowest so this is well in the bounds to get the phone so hopefull i will be getting a cheap connection to the net soon through chorus ill keep you posted.Just another bit of news i asked about a two way sat conection from web sat plc heres what i got back.


We have not offered our system / service on the Irish Market, we plan to offer a service later this year (July / Aug) when we have our higher return speed model available (64Kbps). With our present model we can achieve up to 300 Kbps download speeds (depending on source of data we have been able to eliminate most of the lag by modification of the TCP/IP protocol and the use of "Push" Technology.

If you require further information please call me at 01-4509480.

Sounds prety good just hope the kit isnt way to exspencive


All the best the hunt go,s on

Stone

PiE

NTL offers a unique combination of super fast internet connection for a =
flat
rate of =A50.00 a month. The cable modem internet service is available =
as a
stand alone product for customers connected to the two - way network. =
To
avail of this service you will require a PC with the minimum =
requirement as
outlined below :

* 60 mb hard disk space
* CD rom
* 10 base - T Ethernet=20
* cable modem
* Internet Explorer (4.01 or above) or Netscape Communicator (4.5 or =
above).

IF your computer runs on windows 95-98 , you must have :
* Pentium 166 or above recommended
* 32 MB RAM ( 40 mb or more recommended).

With this service you will get unlimited access to the internet with no
additional on line charges. A flat monthly charge and a once off
installation fee will apply. Downstream speeds of up to 512 kbps - =
that's
four times faster than the average ISDN line and nine times faster than =
any
standard 56k modem. The upstream will be up to 128 kbps.
An always on service for use at your convenience day or night. The =
ability
to make and receive telephone calls whilst accessing the internet , =
since
the NTL cable modem does not use the the telephone line.
You will have to buy a cable modem and we are happy to recommend a =
cable
modem supplier.For more information you can contact me on my direct =
line
051-334371.

---

That's what I got back from NTL.

I've read somewhere, may have been the Chorus.ie site, of a 2GB LIMIT ON DOWNLOADS. I'm not sure but if this includes the downloads used through casual surfing as well as downloading Mp3's etc, if it does this 2GB does not work out to be alot.


Just thought you should know.

<b>+aR</b>

PiE

NTL offers a unique combination of super fast internet connection for a =
flat
rate of =A50.00 a month. The cable modem internet service is available =
as a
stand alone product for customers connected to the two - way network. =
To
avail of this service you will require a PC with the minimum =
requirement as
outlined below :

* 60 mb hard disk space
* CD rom
* 10 base - T Ethernet=20
* cable modem
* Internet Explorer (4.01 or above) or Netscape Communicator (4.5 or =
above).

IF your computer runs on windows 95-98 , you must have :
* Pentium 166 or above recommended
* 32 MB RAM ( 40 mb or more recommended).

With this service you will get unlimited access to the internet with no
additional on line charges. A flat monthly charge and a once off
installation fee will apply. Downstream speeds of up to 512 kbps - =
that's
four times faster than the average ISDN line and nine times faster than =
any
standard 56k modem. The upstream will be up to 128 kbps.
An always on service for use at your convenience day or night. The =
ability
to make and receive telephone calls whilst accessing the internet , =
since
the NTL cable modem does not use the the telephone line.
You will have to buy a cable modem and we are happy to recommend a =
cable
modem supplier.For more information you can contact me on my direct =
line
051-334371.

---

That's what I got back from NTL.

I've read somewhere, may have been the Chorus.ie site, of a 2GB LIMIT ON DOWNLOADS. I'm not sure but if this includes the downloads used through casual surfing as well as downloading Mp3's etc, if it does this 2GB does not work out to be alot.


Just thought you should know.

<b>+aR</b>

PiE

Oh and another thing, If I were you I wouldnt hold my breath waiting for Eircom to launch Broadband access. They dont even have the infrastructure needed. Be lucky if they have the capacity to launch it next year.

LegacyUser

Thanks for that NtL information.

I am getting on to the phone to them now, £50 flat rate is not bad at all if you ask me.

---

TheBoxNetwork.net

THE SPERMINATOR

NTL is all well and good if you live in dub but if you live in the **** end of nowhere like me chorus is the only way to go at the mo.


Stone

ps its 3gig and there not charging for over runs untill they have gotten all there customers settle in hehehe so thatll take some time im guessing

PiE

Oh sorry, my bad. Still, any limit is a rip off. =/

THE SPERMINATOR

With luck they may either boost the limit or if we are very lucky drop the idea all together.Anyone out there know why they charge for over 3 gigs does it actualy cost them anything extra?.

Stone

PiE

Chorus said:

Residential

High speed modem Installation IRP 150.00 inc. VAT
Monthly Rental IRP 40.00 inc. VAT
Monthly Flat rate Download limit 3Gb
******Volume charge above limit 2p per MB********


Subject to a min. twelve month contract

Option of self install or using a recommended IT install company
Payable directly to the authorised IT install company

Software Install IRP 48.00 inc. VAT
Software/ Ethernet card Install IRP 99.00 inc. VAT (to include a specified d-link ethernet card)
Software/ USB to Ethernet adapter IRP TBA

NB Above amounts are payable COD directly to authorized install partner

---

only 2p u might say...but that could work out alot with an "Always On" connection >_<

PiE

Oops read your post again.

Dunno if it costs THEM any extra, probably just trying to make as much as they can by exploiting customers who know no better =/

nard

PiE Said:

Oh and another thing, If I were you I wouldnt hold my breath waiting for Eircom to launch Broadband access. They dont even have the infrastructure needed. Be lucky if they have the capacity to launch it next year.

Where, pray may i ask, did you get that info. from ?

The fact is they do, the infrastructure is already there, and trials have been going on for months - its there, but will they bother go to the trouble of releasing it for the average jo (most of whom wouldn't know the difference between an apple and a pear) is the real question.

THE SPERMINATOR

In fairness when i get 24/7 just coz ive got it doesnt mean ill be leaving my machine on 24/7.Ill use it mainly to get demos playing cs and general surfing so i dout ill even get to the 3 gig limit.My point was how are chorus set up ie are they paying for a backbone connection to yank land or the uk and if they have do they have to pay per mgb over a certain amount of traffic ??? If so im asumeing they have done there sums and figured if they get x amount of customers all useing the system there limit would be reach hence the 3gig limit per house.Failing that they could be just squeezing the heavy user hehehe.
As ive said before i was told by a tech line guy they wernt going to charge for over 3 gig untill they have there customer base in place and even then the limit may go up there not sure what there doing yet.I cant say how reliable this guy is but that is what he told me.

Stone

Skeptic1

International bandwidth is paid for on a capacity basis. You pay so much per month for a pipe of a certain capacity and it is up to you to use it. This is dedicated capacity. If you buy a 10mbs, that is what you get.

Of course Chorus will be offering a shared bandwith service to customers. With this you are buying a maximum of 512kbs (or whatever). They do not guarantee you will actually achieve this.

I think the download limit is a very odd way of sharing out this shared capacity. At the end of a billing period you will have people using up their spare bytes which will slow down the connection for everyone else. Much better would have been to limit the maximum capacity to a reasonable level. You would still get the low latency which would enhance gaming without the need to watch the clock. The low latency would also improve web surfing etc. The lack of a limit would alow people do download linux distributions without hogging the bandwidth.

PiE

got it from...

http://www.iol.ie/~kooltek/

=]

Kali

sort of on topic.. anyone recommend any download limit monitoring software?

THE SPERMINATOR

I think this may be the point of them not charging for overuns atm they havent got a system in place where you can check how much youve used.What i mean is they will probably know but unless they have a website or something you can check to see how much youve had its hardly fair to expect people to stay within the limits.
This is just a guess so if you know otherwise tell us more hehehe.

Stone