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  • 16-02-2002 9:29pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭


    I am extremely sorry to report to boards that one of the guys in my house, a close friend of mine, has died Thursday evening.

    He hung himself in the early hours of Friday morning, but was not discovered until the early hours of Saturday morning.

    I know that some of the newer members of boards will know of whom I speak. Unfortunately, at this time, I don't really want to say much more.

    SearrarD and I both lived with him, and found him to be one of the kindest, most sociable, self sacrificing and soundest people of our acquaintence. He will be sorely missed by all of us.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭chernobyl


    Originally posted by swiss
    found him to be one of the kindest, most sociable, self sacrificing and soundest people of our acquaintence.


    I haven known 2 ppl who wasted themselves, and those are attributes i would never use to describe them, simply because they generally are features of a stable, maybe even happy person.

    Sorry for your loss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    about 2 year ago, i was on a forum, and this kid, must have been about 15 came in, and said he wanted to kill himself, he wrote pages on why he wanted to end his life and everyone could see it was pretty clear this guy was in allot of pain. But over the course of the follow few days a hundread maybe more people replied with their personal accounts of suicide, and how it had effcted them, by the end we had confinced him to give it one last chance.

    Just when i start to buy into all the crap people say about the human race, something like that happens and it makes me rethink my entire view point.

    Im very sorry for your friend.

    Take solace in the fact, that theres very very few people in this country that arn't touch be suicide in one way or another.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    he'll be missed. As a class mate, and good friend, of mine I can back up everything swiss has said about him.

    RIP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭Biffa Bacon


    Sorry to hear that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    I knew him too, great guy, really sound. R.I.P.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Swiss, not to diminish or distract from your grief, but my god-daughter, Áine (age 15 months) died last weekend. She just didn't wake up on Saturday morning. So I know where you are.

    A friend died about 2 years ago (March 2000). He had an epileptic fit on the Monday night and collapsed on his bed. One of his housemates thought that he had just passed out from drinking (as he was wont to do) and closed over his bedroom door. When no one saw him on Tuesday and Wednesday the checked his bedroom and he was in the same position. The last two years haven't been easy.

    While neither of these case can compare directly to your experience, please take the time to grieve, attend the service, talk to people about how you feel, but most importantly take the time to look after yourself, keep some sort of routine, treat yourself to something you like (say chocolate) every day.

    One of the things that my bother in law siad about the children in Temple Street Children's Hospital was he was told about a 4-year old who has spent the last 2 years in the hospital and is only allow out occasionally for a few hours at a time. At least we had Áine for all the time she was here.

    http://www.samaritans.org
    http://www.samaritans.org/know/in_ireland.html


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Samson


    You, his other friends and his family have my deepest sympathy.

    What a waste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭NeRb666


    Sorry to hear that, you have my sympathy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭ayatollah


    aw man i am so sorry - i feel like such a wanker - i was texting searrard all weekend and wondering why he wasent replying!!!


    i too knew jason and always thought very highly of him as did all those lucky enough to know him - we all miss you pal!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭ayatollah




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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Sorrow may the heart sometimes deface
    In ways that will in time its seal emboss.
    Do remember, then, love's gentle grace
    So that the gift be ransom for the loss.

    I'm sorry for your loss Swiss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭ykt0di9url7bc3


    he was the life and soul of the party...
    i shared a room with him last year and we stuck together and moved to a new house this year......

    it was a lovely mass and so many people turned up from college....


    to my best friend
    rest in peace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭swiss


    Again, I would like to thank everyone for their show of support. Needless to say, it's been an extremely difficult and traumatic time for everyone involved.

    We, as his friends loved him deeply. However, the look on his mother and fathers face any time I saw them reminded me of how soul shattering grief can become.

    I'm sorry to say this Boston and please don't take it the wrong way, but I don't take much solace in what you said. The only thing that may comfort me a little in writing this post is that it may convince someone who might be considering suicide to think twice and consider the effect it might have on other people.

    It's still hard to believe he's gone.

    [I just read my first post again - by Thursday evening I mean the early hours of Friday morning]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭ykt0di9url7bc3


    you were the man J


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    We sometimes congratulate ourselves at the moment of waking from a troubled dream...it may be so at the moment of death.
    -- Nathaniel Hawthorne

    fair well noble friend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭daithi


    Unfortunatly I only got to know him on tuesday at the concert in the College Hall. It was the first time i would have had an opportunity to talk to him properly.
    The last thing he said to me was "it is good to get to know people", i am glad i had that opportunity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭Aspro


    My heart goes out to you mate.

    I only heard last week that the brother of an old friend did the same. Apparently he was trying to text a message to my mate earlier in the evening but couldn't get coverage. So now the poor bastard feels "if only" and will probably be torturing himself over it.

    What a waste of young life. Sorry again man.

    Aspro


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Moonpig


    I feel that your friend hanging himself should be kept to your self and close friends, there is no need to post it in this fashion, i am not disputing that he was a nice guy but what does it achieve by parading his memory around like this other than maybe the attention which you recieve from it. I don't think that your friend or his family would apreciate this somewhat selfish act on your part, consider this, if I was to walk down to the city centre and post up this poor felows picture and a msg describing how he died, what good would com eof it, why should i expect other people to care, we all have our own lives to live don't marr this poor boy's memory and have a little respect for his family who i am sure would be deeply troubled by your actions. Treat him like a friend and not a reason for people to feel sorry for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,446 ✭✭✭bugler


    Did you feel it necessary to register and post to boards for the first time on account of this thread, or do you just lack the balls to post under your usual nick? Either way, a look in the mirror is well warranted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Yurmasyurda


    What an awful waste, my sincerest sympathy to you and all who knew him, it makes you realise "Life is so fragile".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Kolodny


    Originally posted by Moonpig
    I feel that your friend hanging himself should be kept to your self and close friends, there is no need to post it in this fashion, i am not disputing that he was a nice guy but what does it achieve by parading his memory around like this other than maybe the attention which you recieve from it. I don't think that your friend or his family would apreciate this somewhat selfish act on your part, consider this, if I was to walk down to the city centre and post up this poor felows picture and a msg describing how he died, what good would com eof it, why should i expect other people to care, we all have our own lives to live don't marr this poor boy's memory and have a little respect for his family who i am sure would be deeply troubled by your actions. Treat him like a friend and not a reason for people to feel sorry for you.

    Sorry Moonpig, but I think that's a bit much. Everyone has a different way of dealing of their grief - who are you to label it attention seeking?

    I don't see how sharing feelings and memories with others who knew or even didn't know the person you've lost can a negative impact on how you come to terms with it.

    Of course it is difficult for family, when every little thing seems like a painful reminder - but hopefully, at least eventually, the kind of affectionate and positive memories and thoughts being shared here will provide a source of comfort.

    To swiss and friends: - sorry to hear of your loss and hope your friend is at peace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Moonpig


    excuse me but i thought that all opinions are welcome, not just the ones that you chose to agree with, I think you might have me mixed up with some one else as this is my first time at this, I am entitled to have an opinion whether you agree with it or not so calm down and relax bugler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭Baz_


    Moonpig, if as you suggested, and they were "to walk down to the city centre and post up this poor felows picture and a msg describing how he died", I reckon the response would be to place flowers or messages of solace and comfort at that very spot, its not attention seeking at all. Some people here knew him and it gave them an opportunity to give their messages of comfort, "lay their virtual flowers" as it were as a mark of respect for someone they loved so much. And for people who didnt know him, it gave them a chance to hear about someone whom was thought of so highly by his family and friends and to add their condolences. This really is what you would call a mar on the messages of comfort an condolence and all posts in response to your's and yours also should be deleted (moderated) in my opinion. If you want to object to this type of post, start a new thread, but dont cheapen the will of his friends to leave a long lasting tribute online. Lads just ignore this post and all of moonpigs.

    To all who knew Jason, I really am sorry for your loss, and I hope you can forever look back with fond memories of your friend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Moonpig


    excuse me, what makes you think that i don't know jason, what makes you think that i was not one of his friends? Don't be so quick to assume, why should what i have to say be any less of that of swiss or anyone else posting msg's, i was a good friend of jason's and i don't think it apropriate that his memory be paraded around like this, thats what i have to say, there's nothing 'virtual' about it. Don't ' cheapen' my memory of him or of that of his family whom i know would not like to see or hear of this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭Baz_


    I didnt suggest or assume anything moonpig, I just disagreed with your opinion, as you say is quite acceptable.

    I am also sorry for the loss you feel, but I think that if it helps even one of the agrieved with their loss that this tribute is here then it was worth it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Moonpig


    also should be deleted (moderated) in my opinion. If you want to object to this type of post, start a new thread, but dont cheapen the will of his friends to leave a long lasting tribute online. Lads just ignore this post and all of moonpigs.


    Seems a bit extreme, i don't need people to feel sorry for me, parading jason's memory around in this kind of forum is not respectful in any manner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    I don't think it apropriate that his memory be paraded around like this. Don't ' cheapen' my memory of him or of that of his family whom i know would not like to see or hear of this

    I fail to see how allowing people to offer their condolences can cheapen the memory of someone. However, bickering will cheapen his memory, so why dont we all make sure that doesnt happen.

    Moorpig - youve made your point, leave it at that.

    I didnt know the guy. I'm sorry for the loss that anyone I know here who did know him will go through.

    jc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    ive given my account of this subject before on these boards, so im not going into it again.
    taking your own life is one of the most selfish bas7ard things you can do, and i will never understand it.
    but, i think its good to talk about the loss, its good to share the good times and the very bad times you shared together, and its important that whatever memory you have of the person remains with you.
    my friends and i tend to make light of the fact that one of our own jumped of dalkey quarrey for his own purposes. we still call him a selfish fúck, because thats what he was. but we miss him, and we still love him. and the highest compliment we can give is to get to gether, have a beer and toast him in our usual tradition.

    to absent friends.....
    fúck em all!

    he would understand.
    my deepest sympathies.


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