Can England win the World Cup...

The_Scary_Man · 10-02-2002 6:50pm #1

with a cereal fixated scientist at the helm?

Mountjoy Mugger · 10-02-2002 7:12pm

Short answer. Yes.

dobdobdo · 10-02-2002 7:39pm

Hope not but they could and if Shearer goes (I think he will) they just might.... NOT

Lister · 10-02-2002 7:44pm

Truthfully England have some of the best players in the world, but they just don't gel. They struggled to qualify from a weak group.
I mean 2 - 2 at home against Greece in the most important game in the group, doesn't say much for their performance under pressure. I say that they'll be lucky to get out of the group stage.
I say Argentina and Sweeden will progress.

WhiteWashMan · 10-02-2002 8:34pm

Originally posted by Lister

I mean 2 - 2 at home against Greece in the most important game in the group, .

doesnt really say much for irelands 0-0 against lichtenstein does it?
seriously, england, like any other team can have off days you know.

i think england can win it. id like to see them do it as they have a super squad, i just dont think i could bare to hear about it for the next 40 years...

Lister · 10-02-2002 9:53pm

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan

doesnt really say much for irelands 0-0 against lichtenstein does it?
seriously, england, like any other team can have off days you know.

i think england can win it. id like to see them do it as they have a super squad, i just dont think i could bare to hear about it for the next 40 years...

Lichtenstein? How about we talk about the current irish squad!
You know, the one that beat Holland 1 nil.

I don't think that Ireland are better than England, but I also don't think that England would have been able to qualify from a group containning Portugal and Holland.

England chances of winning the World Cup are totaly over-rated.

meglome · 10-02-2002 9:59pm

He's a great manager but please god they don't win then we won't have to listen about it for the next 100 years.

Monkey · 10-02-2002 10:22pm

No they'll not get past the semis

NeRb666 · 10-02-2002 11:43pm

hahahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahaha

NO.

gandalf · 11-02-2002 12:29am

Nope they won't win it. They will go down in flames (ie a peno shoot out) in the Qtrs or Semis.

Argentina will win it.

Gandalf.

NeRb666 · 11-02-2002 4:00am

Yes they will be dealt another injustice, a dodgy ref will send off Becks (the most talented player in the world) for kicking someone in the face (he was going for the ball). How dare anyone other than the inventors of football win the world cup.

Bard · 11-02-2002 5:06am

England will absolutely definitely certainly NOT win the 2002 FIFA World Cup.

Full stop.

TwoShedsJackson · 11-02-2002 9:30am

They have a chance. It's very small, but it is there

Unless Argentina (who my money's on) or France somehow get knocked out before meeting England, then it's basically nil.

But what sort of World Cup would it be without the good laugh when England get knocked out, along with the tabloids going totally insane

Washout · 11-02-2002 9:54am

Lads lads its a knock out tournament...Freaky things can and do happen.
if england do manage to qualify out of their group then of course they have a chance.

11-02-2002 11:27am

Yes they can win but they wont as they are not a team .They are a group of great players .

Makaveli · 11-02-2002 12:25pm

I think if England come second in their group they get France. Assuming France win their group. England could very well finsh last in their group. Nigeria beat Spain in France '98 they can beat England too. That was a deadly goal by Sunday Oliseh. Anyway England are not good enough to win it. Argentina will probably win.
On another point I think if Ireland come second they will end up playing Spain and if they beat Spain they end up with Portugal, again assuming that Spain and Portugal win their respective groups. Things are not looking too good for us.

gandalf · 11-02-2002 12:34pm

Forget Spain & Portugal its bloody Cameroon I'm worried about. They looked very impressive in the little I saw of the Africans Nations Cup.

Gandalf.

SheroN · 11-02-2002 12:36pm

aye cameroon...they won the nations cup there last night...beating senegal on penos!....
a seeminly easy group appears to be getting harder and harder.
- sher

Makaveli · 11-02-2002 1:05pm

I watched most of the African Nations Cup Games. Cameroon are not that great, their defence is dodgy and their control is not so great. If Mick McCarthy doesn't underestimate them we should not have trouble

WhiteWashMan · 11-02-2002 1:23pm

Originally posted by Lister

Lichtenstein? How about we talk about the current irish squad!
You know, the one that beat Holland 1 nil.

I don't think that Ireland are better than England, but I also don't think that England would have been able to qualify from a group containning Portugal and Holland.

England chances of winning the World Cup are totaly over-rated.

i was only giving you an example of how teams have bad days.

how can you say englan are better than ireland and then turn around and say they wouldnt have quailified out of our group. but hypocritical.
i also think ireland were incredibly lucky to beat holland 1-0.
in fact, their manager seemed to be playing for ireland that day....
england do have a chance to win, the same as any other team

the fnj · 11-02-2002 6:51pm

I would like to see them do it. The have one of the most talented squads in the world and if theyw in that maybe they will leave us to win the rugby world cup. A throphy that we could win (if we pull off six of our best perfromances in a row).

Someone pointed out they have trouble gelling and I think that is very true.

If I was making a bet I'd say they will make semi's.

At the end of the day who am I to say who will win?

Bottle_of_Smoke · 11-02-2002 6:53pm

Argentina won't win it neither, everyones sayin they will, therefore they won't

mike65 · 11-02-2002 7:02pm

Engerland can proberly expect to reach the quarter-finals without to much effort, but after that...

Go here for a laugh,
http://team.sports.com/en/forums/Forum29/HTML/000105.html

Mike.

The_Scary_Man · 11-02-2002 7:15pm

I've got to go with France

Barthez

Sagnol Thuram Desailly Candela

Dalmat Viera Zidane Pires

Trezeguet Henry

I mean Come on like!

As for England they still lack something in defence and midfield (left side mainly) up front they can compete with anyone I reckon.

Lister · 11-02-2002 8:16pm

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan

i was only giving you an example of how teams have bad days.

how can you say englan are better than ireland and then turn around and say they wouldnt have quailified out of our group. but hypocritical.
i also think ireland were incredibly lucky to beat holland 1-0.
in fact, their manager seemed to be playing for ireland that day....
england do have a chance to win, the same as any other team

Hardly hypoctritical, the funny thing about football is that the better team doesn't always win. As for ireland being lucky to beat Holland, the fact is that they did and remember that Holland were very lucky not to lose to Ireland in Holland.

I think that England would be a better team if they had a more influential captain. Beckham is a skilful player, but he is not a leader.

I would gladly put a bet on Ireland getting further than England.

WhiteWashMan · 12-02-2002 7:42pm

id happily take that bet.
ireland are a group of hard grafting players.
we have 3 or 4 world class players.
england have a squad of them.

oh, and saying that england are better but that they would lose to holland while ireland would beat them is, quiet frankly hypocritical. and dont say it isnt please, because it just bloody is.

Lister · 12-02-2002 8:05pm

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
id happily take that bet.
ireland are a group of hard grafting players.
we have 3 or 4 world class players.
england have a squad of them.

oh, and saying that england are better but that they would lose to holland while ireland would beat them is, quiet frankly hypocritical. and dont say it isnt please, because it just bloody is.

How about you take your head out of your ass and take heed of what I say. Englands biggest problem is that they have to many "World class players". And like I pointed out, the best team doesn't always win. Ireland are'nt a better team than Holland, but remind me again who is in the World Cup? On paper Liverpool are better than Bolton, but Bolton still beat them this year.

castie · 12-02-2002 10:06pm

well i say bring on the penalty shoot out and england shall be crushed.
i wonder who will miss this time.

tHE vAGGABOND · 13-02-2002 10:56am

get a life wwm..

we dont have 3 or 4 world class players...

We have 1 world calss player, Keano..

If Robbie Keane was a world calss player he would not be a sub at leeds, and nor would leeds have had to buy another striker in Robbie Fowler..

er, Shea Given is not a World Class player, he has never won **** all nor done anything bar a few good saves in the English league..

I cant think of anyone else at all who could even be thought of as world class..

Waylander · 13-02-2002 1:31pm

I think England could do quite well in the World Cup and would like to see them do so as I know their players. However, although I think in an attacking sense England are very good, I also think they are weak defenseively. As a united fan I have to say that a defence featuring one of the Neville sisters does not inspire confidence, if Ashley Cole getrs injured then there is a good chance both will play and that is not good news for the English at all. All the same I hope they do not win it as their press will then be unbearable for about twenty years. I have not seen enough of Argentina to know how good they are but I know they have some great players. The England game should show us just how good they are. As regards Ireland, although we may not have all the talent other coutries have, as a unit we are very good, and hard to break down. I think we could get to the quarters and after that who knows what can happen. Obviously I would not back us to win it, but I will study the odds closely for a semi final berth.

Can England win the World Cup...

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