Under-rated bands?

Bard

They're great, but they don't get as much of the limelight as they deserve... either because not enough people have good taste these days or because there's too much popstar/girlband/boyband sh*te around...

sort of like the under-rated actors thread, but with bands, - I guess...

I'm talking about the likes of :

Muse
Blink 182
The Devlins
Aslan
Gorrilaz

any more examples?

Dr. Loon

Originally posted by Bard
They're great, but they don't get as much of the limelight as they deserve... either because not enough people have good taste these days or because there's too much popstar/girlband/boyband sh*te around...

sort of like the under-rated actors thread, but with bands, - I guess...

I'm talking about the likes of :

Muse
Blink 182
The Devlins
Aslan
Gorrilaz

any more examples?

Yeah... us!!!
IMO Aslan are over rated, big time, and they weren't nice to us when we supported them so

Beruthiel

Type O Negative

how come they're not better known??

and DO NOT say anything bad about them 'cos I'm in lust with Peter Steele!!

the fnj

The Frames

atonal

Well Irish Music in General.... Outside of Ireland anyway it seems that not much attention is being paid to Irish artists.

Also
Jump, Little Children
The kinks
the yardbirds
The Jam
Thin Lizzy
The Prayer Boat
Richard Ashcroft's Solo work
Ian Brown
The Frames (outside of Dublin)
Elvis Costello

hmm I guess those are underappreciated actually not really underrated per se.... well im sticking with my list anyway

Panda

Skindive
Muse
JJ72

Aslan are hugely over rated.

meh 2 cents.

Kali

this looks like an overrated thread.. muse ffs? underrated? haven't heard anyone shut up about them in the past 6 months.

my two cents: sebadoh and kila.

harVee

Originally posted by atonal
Well Irish Music in General.... Outside of Ireland anyway it seems that not much attention is being paid to Irish artists.

Ireland is a little spit of a country right on the edge of a continent. why should your average german pay us any attention when there's a much larger music scene in their own country...
If it's any consolation, one of the largest US TV audiences of the year will see U2 play the half time show of the superbowl next week.

back to the topic in question, my vote goes to
1. Village People (so much more than YMCA)
2. Warlords of Pez (best band in the country right now, but far too colloquial for an international audience)

PiE

Jimmy Eat World.

Lucutus

Damien Dempsey

Go on, say it...

"Ya Wha'?"

Kairo

Originally posted by Bard


I'm talking about the likes of :

Muse
Blink 182

any more examples?

Muse and Blink 182 underated?! Fup off! Blink are all over the place, and Muse are happy where they are..they don't want to be massive and poppy and are talking more of a Radiohead route.

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by Beruthiel
Type O Negative

how come they're not better known??

and DO NOT say anything bad about them 'cos I'm in lust with Peter Steele!!

Um...

Agreed with the whole band being under-rated, but can we leave out the lust!?

Take a look at my sig!

atonal

Originally posted by harVee


why should your average german pay us any attention when there's a much larger music scene in their own country...

Why should anyone have paid attention to Seattle a little backwater of a city almost in Canada? Becasue at one point it had loads of great original music coming out of it. I think Irish bands get a lot less respect than they should, it is an opinion.

plastic membrane

Doves.

Lost Souls is a great album, and seeing as how a) their music is used as backround music in every TV clip excerpt in the world ever and b)they have a new album out this year, i thought i'd mention how great they are.

Beruthiel

Angelwhore - but can we leave out the lust!?

I'm sorry, but there is no way to leave out the lust - after I saw him in da flesh there was no going back!!! lol mmmmm yummy..

btw - cool sig!

the celtic tiger

under rated bands.

blink 182. While they are superb, they are not under-rated but are in fact massive in america.

One of you losers said that the kinks and thin lizzy are under-rated. that's just not true.

A UK band that are actually under-rated and should be way bigger than they are are feeder. great music, great live.

The frames. absolutely under-rated. one of the best bands to come out of ireland in a long time. albums and live performances are as the french say....'c'est tres beaucoup magnifique'.

Aslan. if anything they are over-rated. scumbags love that sh1t cos they like to see one of thier own being semi-succesful. I fupping hate this band.
AUDIENCE: CHRISTY! - WE LOVE YOU
Christy: Well then spot me a score so i can get me fix. waaaa.

Gerry

I agree tct.

muse are not underrated, and as kali said, they get plenty of airtime.

Skindive are a band with potential, I heard them live, but they still have some way to go before becoming a band that deserves a higher rating.

ASLAN FOOKING ASLAN are way overrated. Useless.

Niallmac

Have to say I do not believe noone mentioned The Walls. Really good band that do not get enough attention.

Shiminay

The Frames - yes.

System of a Down - everyone who's heard of them but doesn't listen to them thinks they're some sort of nu-metal rubbish. This is just not true - they are the new RATM for me. For any band to have produced 2 albums of such insane quality is a rare thing.

Muse won the "Best Brittish Band" award from Kerrang! They're not in need of publicity and they're certainly not under-rated in my opinion - I quite like.

Blink 182 - they're very popular with the kids - the young twenty-somethings (i.e. the likes of me) don't have too much respect for them because we had Green Day in our time However, they do have potential to write good tunes when they're not ripping Green Day off.

Devlins - yes indeed. I quite like them (playing in Galway 28 Feb incase people don't know).

Skindive - not groundbreaking by any means so, no.

Scheer - they've split up now, but they absolutely ruled! So few people have even heard of them too - criminal. One of the best bands to have even come out of Ireland. The album's called "Infliction" incase anyone's interested - look for it in the bargin bins *sniff*. And yer one, Audrey Gallagher who was the lead singer is an awful cute bit of fluff

Shred

Aslan.... I fupping hate this band......

LOL:D

I absolutely agree, they are frickin' S.H.I.T.E!

There are so many other bands out there that deserve the recognition more then those gits :mad:

And the Frames, yeah I'd have to agree they desrve to do better - they're brilliant musicians

MarcusGarvey

Elbow
Turin Breaks
Beta Band
Sigur Ros
Boards of Canada
Cannibal Ox

Kali

Originally posted by the celtic tiger
A UK band that are actually under-rated and should be way bigger than they are are feeder. great music, great live.

nah they got their mtv time, then disappeared into obscurity to reappear with that horrible new single and some dead drummer. didn't quite think much of them when i see them live.

The frames. absolutely under-rated. one of the best bands to come out of ireland in a long time.

i don't think they made it out of ireland

Fidelis

Under-rated: Snow Patrol, Zero 7, Relish & Picturehouse.

Over-rated: Muse, U2, Aslan & Madonna.

Shred

The Frames:

i don't think they made it out of ireland

They have tried (and still are) playing gigs in Europe and America etc

But if they had had the good sense years ago to get the f*** out of this country and emigrate, they would undoubtedly have had major success

mayhem#

Originally posted by Beruthiel
Type O Negative

how come they're not better known??

and DO NOT say anything bad about them 'cos I'm in lust with Peter Steele!!

Having shared a van with them for 30 minutes I can only say that they suck bigtime...

atonal

Originally posted by Shred
The Frames:


They have tried (and still are) playing gigs in Europe and America etc

But if they had had the good sense years ago to get the f*** out of this country and emigrate, they would undoubtedly have had major success

Nah... there are plenty of great Irish bands in the States getting even less recognition than The Frames (mostly only Irish at the shows of Irish bands)... its pathetic but unless you have mastered the synchronized head bob you are not going to get famous in the US right now. Maybe they shoud have gone to Soctland?


And to whoever said I am an asshole for saying Thin Lizzy, are you saying they werent good or just not under-recognized becasue out of Ireland nobody knows who the hell they are - they know the song "the boys are back in town" but would be hard pressed to name the band.

The Frames are playing The States next month - I am curious to see the turnout.

GreenHell

I was under the impression that the frames turned down chances off becoming a "recognised" band after their first album, and are happy the way they are.

Shred

Well apparently the Frames signed a **** record deal in the last year (they didn't realise) that they are now contractually bound tofor the next couple of years. So that's them f****d for world domination (a pity )

its pathetic but unless you have mastered the synchronized head bob you are not going to get famous in the US right now

Well I'd have to say I disagree with you on that, it may be hard but...

Look at Stand (a rock band from Tallaght, for those of you who don't know http://www.standland.com ), they are doing really well over in New York. They've been there for a year working their asses off and have garnered a massive following over there along with a lot of hype and major label interest

They released two independent albums here and off they went (after being together for years though, they're all around their mid-twenties)

It can be done, I just don't think this country is a decent outlet for new talent

alb

Well apparently the Frames signed a **** record deal in the last year (they didn't realise) that they are now contractually bound tofor the next couple of years. So that's them f****d for world domination (a pity )

I find this hard to believe since after their first album they screwed around a lotby record companies, and eventually started their own label - plateau records on which they've been releasing albums since. Have you more info to back up this claim?

atonal

Originally posted by Shred

Look at Stand (a rock band from Tallaght, for those of you who don't know http://www.standland.com ), they are doing really well over in New York. They've been there for a year working their asses off and have garnered a massive following over there along with a lot of hype and major label interest


It can be done, I just don't think this country is a decent outlet for new talent

I have both cd's, they are apparently coming out with a new one.
I will be seeing them on Thursday night (opposite mrnorth another fantastic Dublin rock band, although I think they are not very well known there they are doing pretty well in NY also link in my signature will get you to their mp3.com page), I have seen them both quite a few times they play my local, - they are doing allright it is true but still the bands getting the big deals suck. Stand have a good group of dedicated fans but.... The Majority of STAND's shows are 60% cover shows in pubs. Meanwhile the big venues are full of total **** not to mention the radio.
The Frames are playing Mercury Lounge - that is an OK venue but pretty small - my cousin's shyte band played there.

It can be done true - Yes I dont think Ireland is a great outlet for talent I agree - but it produces alot of it which is what I was getting at in the beginnning when I said Irish Bands were underrated. New York has too many bands most of which suck finding a good one is a needle in a haystack.

Enough complaining, im gonna see two great bands this week and the frames next week so im happy anyway.

Shred

Have you more info to back up this claim?

Well it was a friend of mine who told me they'd signed the same deal that Stand were on years ago (with Warner) which wasn't worth the paper it was written on and Stand told warner where to stick it when it matured

As I said

apparently

You are most likely right, it was just something this friend told me (he was knocking around the scene here at the time and had a few contacts, he's not one for bull****ting like) he'd heard

he thought it was a shame anyway

Shred

I have both cd's, they are apparently coming out with a new one.

Yeah, an e.p. I think

Having said all of that about them, they pissed me off the last gig (Vicar st, 29/12), they changed a few of the tunes around (ruined one or two I thought) and the site seems to be completely aimed at Americans now, well the mail updates are ( no offense to the yanks , I know the band have a bit of brown nosing to do though)

pugwall

I agree with plastic membrane, Doves are defo under rated. Their debut album Lost Souls is amazing. t'was my album of 2000.

atonal

Originally posted by Shred

they changed a few of the tunes around (ruined one or two I thought)

they have been messing with stuff - some of the songs kind of need it though. I think they are better live than they are studiowise put on a good show, "Anorak" and "Lift" are solid tunes.

Shred

some of the songs kind of need it though

This is true, but they really made a balls of 'Hoper'. It was a nice mellow tune with the quartet etc

Then they played it in Vicar St. and rocked it out! All they needed to do with the original was shorten it and make it a little less repititious towards the end and it would have been perfect

I just think they're starting to sound a tad too American ,losing some of their unique-ness, imho:rolleyes:

atonal

Originally posted by Shred


This is true, but they really made a balls of 'Hoper'. It was a nice mellow tune with the quartet etc

I just think they're starting to sound a tad too American ,losing some of their unique-ness, imho:rolleyes:

I have noticed this. I think all of these bands are trying to get noticed and are under some pressure to conform to a marketable sound. This is also somewhat true of the band playing opposite them tomorrow who are i.m.o. the best band in NYC in the set they choose the songs that are the most marketable and not necessarily the best. (although they hold the line a bit more than Stand). I can imagine STAND getting produced into Matchbox 20 if they ever get a deal. Sadly conformity sells. No disrespect to them, we all do what we have to.

Washout

The Frames are so under-rated its not funny..

I also think Aimee Mann is also a very under-rated musician

Shred

I can imagine STAND getting produced into Matchbox 20 if they ever get a deal. Sadly conformity sells

This is what annoys me - that I can also see them heading down that road and it would be a shame

Cheez

Sigur Ros
The Frames
New Radiohead stuff

Monkey

Badly Drawn Boy

Greenbean

Fila Brazillia

DadaKopf

Irish rock bands doing well in America? Heh. What about that Irish death metal band? I hear they're doing real well in Germany! Hasselhoff style!

atonal

Originally posted by DadaKopf
Irish rock bands doing well in America? Heh. What about that Irish death metal band? I hear they're doing real well in Germany! Hasselhoff style!

NO my point was they are not doing nearly as well as they should be, they are doing OK I supposse. Also they are under huge pressure to conform thier sound a to more popular style (the crowds really don't get the artistic vocals and stuff) so the industry will pay them mind.

cournioni

In Flames
Morbid Angel
The Haunted / At the Gates

atonal

Originally posted by DadaKopf
Irish rock bands doing well in America? Heh

OK I recant some of my previous statement on this....

Last Thursday S T A N D and M R N O R T H played back to back at the Bitter End in NYC. It was a truly magnificent show. They packed the house (lined up outside, pressed against the walls) and OWNED the crowd. It was a great thing to see these two fine Dublin bands share the stage for the first time and to see thier mutual respect for eachother. Frankly M R N O R T H blew the house down with an inspired performance and a fantastic encore of their anthem/hymn King Solomon. S T A N D put on an excellent show as well (although they did rock out Hoper) Both bands are apparently working on a bunch of new material, I am sure both will come through with more quality stuff.

neither band is by any estimation getting the industry attention they deserve but that night they were without a doubt the best thing going on in the city and they and everyone there knew it.

Two class Dublin Rock Bands Two class performances one little covercharge - unbeatable.

Raggamuffin

um under rated hmmmmm

dinosaur Jr and the minutemen are very underated meaning there're never given the full praise for their contribution.....

cournioni

Oh jeebus yes! I nearly forgot Steve Vai.

Lolo

Ultra Vivid Scene (late 80s- early 90s band - well, just one bloke really - on 4AD). Nearly all of my favourite wee bands who I championed when they were unheard of have become big - Spiritualized, Mercury Rev, Flaming Lips etc. But poor little UVS never made it, and their records still sound amazing.

With the exception of Fila Brazilia and the Minutemen, all of the bands mentioned so far have got loads of positive press coverage, some of them to the point of hype. I don't call that overrated. While the Minutemen have had their fair share of (justified) gushing reviews, they are one of those bands who seem to have a small number of very passionate fans but never became very well known. Dinosaur Jnr on the other hand, although they never made it to huge stadium status, are still regarded as legendary, and most people with half a clue about that era of music will at least have heard a few songs.

But Steve Vai?! Every metal-flavoured muso I've ever met gushes about him, not to mention evey guitar magazine. How is that 'underrated'?

Rolo Tomasi

Jebus whats with all the Aslan bashing? Aslan have been been turning out consistently good music for over 10 years, the last album being one of their best.

My god people talk about the frames being under-rated, has any one actually heard their last album. Absolute and total rubbish.

Respect to Christy D, the biggest scumbag in music.

atonal

Originally posted by Rolo Tomasi

My god people talk about the frames being under-rated, has any one actually heard their last album. Absolute and total rubbish.

come on taste aside, agreed Frames are not to everybody's liking, but that is a brilliantly produced album Steve Albini did a wonderful job there really tapped into the band's skills. The best imo of the 4. I see how someone my not like it, it is a strange album, but it is not rubbish.

PS One of my favorite Movies Rolo!

pugwall

Oi........................
What about the Charlatans? They consistently release fine records, with the exception of 'tellin stories'. Britpop & the Charlatans just doesn't sound right.