Masculine and Feminine

Yo Mamma

(this post was inspired by http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36587)

When I was young, before I was permitted to make my own decisions concerning my hair, or lack there of, I was cursed with the all-too-common nightmare of every male child, the "bowl cut". My first haircut of my own free will was a "crew-cut", and my hair hasn't gotten much longer than that since then.

Personally, I just never liked having hair. Life is so much simpler without it. It's more of a convenience thing than anything else. However, there is another aspect to not having hair, and that is the masculine aspect of it. I think the only time a man should spend behind a mirror is when he's shaving his face, and the occasional popping of a zit, but that's it. I had this roommate once. His hair was a big deal to him. He went to the hair salon and had his hair professionally dyed, he had rows of hair spray, gel, and moose all over his bathroom counter, and a ridiculous amount of shampoo and conditioners. It was sad, really; it looked like I was sharing an apartment with a bird. The contents of my bathroom consists of a razor, shaving cream, aftershave , deodorant, a bottle of shampoo that I've had for like four months and is a little over half empty, and a bar of soap. What else does a man need?

It used to pi$$ me off . It just so happened that this same roommate was also, like me, a DJ. I'd get home from work, hit the shower, and be on my way out the door when he would ask me to wait for him so he could share the taxi to the Gig or whatever. Holy crap that was annoying. I would stand in the hallway throwing him the dagger eye, just trying to give him the hint as he stood behind the mirror slopping gobs of fancy colored **** in his hair and nit-picking over the placement of each insignificant little strand. I swear, I wanted to just walk in there, back-hand him across his pretty little face!!

Then there was this guy I worked with. He was pretty cool, a lot of fun at work, always cracking funny jokes and whatnot. One night a bunch of the guys from work decided to go on the pi$$. When he showed up at another friend's house, where we were all meeting, there was something different about him. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, I thought it just might be because I wasn't used to seeing him out of his uniform or something. We sat there for a little while, waiting on the slackers to show up and trying to roll a quick spliff before we headed out. As we were all bullsh1tting about our a$$hole boss and who's always kissing his a$$, my friend, the one who owned the house we were at, blurted out the question to my fellow employee "Man, are you wearing make-up?" Ah ha! That was it! That is what was different about him that I couldn't figure out, the fcuker actually had on make-up! He said he just put on a little foundation to cover up some zits he had. Yeah--right, I didn't notice any zits earlier that day at work, and believe me, I would. I never hesitate to comment when someone has a big bag of puss growing off of their forehead. We all had a good laugh, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Now, he wasn't gay. In fact, he was married to a pretty damn foxy little woman (although they did divorce about a year ago). So, what on Earth would posses a man to put on make-up? I simply could not fathom what was going through his beady little mind at the moment in time in which he decided to apply make-up. Later, at a company party I think, his wife made it known to all (after we all had fun laughing at him about the night we discovered his dirty little secret) that he always puts on a little make-up before he goes out at night. What the is that crazy ****? Why? I just don't understand; the entire concept is far beyond my realm of comprehension. If you ask my, that dude has stumbled way past vain and into somthing new. Then again, that's just my opinion.

The point I'm getting at is this: Where do you draw the line between masculine and feminine? When does a stiff back-hand to the jaw become a limp-wristed slap on the cheek? Am I too extreme in my ideology, or are the so-called "men" aforementioned borderline homosexuals? Not that there is anything wrong with being a homosexual. I always say "Whatever floats your boat." I just don't understand how any male would ever consider applying make-up to his face, or spending half a ****ing hour behind a mirror teasing his hair until it has that luscious shine, or whatever.

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amp

The answer to this is that people are different no matter how much they want to be the same. In other words: whatever blows up your skirt.

I've never worn makeup (outside of some play I was in as a kid) but it's on my list of things to do before I shuffle off me mortal coil.
After all we're given one life, so why the hell not?

So hey, if you meet a well built girl called ampine, be nice.

Baz_

man do you have issues yomamma.

Puck

Not too bad Amp! Not too bad at all!;)

amp

a/s/l?

pepperkin

Now THAT cracks me up. Now, I'm a chick, (yes, I refer to myself as a chick and do not find it offensive in the least, get over it)

I have very long hair, to my waist.
I never use hairspray, gel, curling irons, hair dryers, bleaches/colorings, etc, etc, etc...

I own a bottle of shampoo and a bottle of conditioner (which I do go through pretty quickly) a comb, a brush, and a bottle of detangler spray (that I usually use for my kids, not me.)
Furthermore, the only time I use makeup is for a job interview or a night out at the club, in which event it takes me less than 2 minutes to apply it all. I dated a guy with a crewcut, and it took him longer to get ready to leave the house than it did me. He was into the whole gel spiked look. I brush my hair and walk out the door!

I love a guy with long hair, I admit it! There's something sexy (or something 80's) about a guy with long hair. It's a slight fetish of mine. But only if it is natural, as in no colorings or hairspray or gel or that stupid poof front look. What is up with the poof front look? Why would anyone spend two hours teasing their hair into a wall of bangs 8" high?

Just my .02

pepperkin

Blitzkrieger

Originally posted by pepperkin
Why would anyone spend two hours teasing their hair into a wall of bangs 8" high?

To get laid. Some people will try anything.

Instead of laughing at them (at least to their face) you might show a bit of support

Shinji

I too extreme in my ideology, or are the so-called "men" aforementioned borderline homosexuals?

Don't be ridiculous. I know entirely straight blokes who fuss for hours over their hair and nails and so on, and guys who shower twice a week and wear any t-shirt and jeans that looks remotely clean before going out clubbing to pick other blokes.

The relationship between feminine/masculine behaviour is not strictly attached to sexuality in any way.

This being said, yes, I'm familiar with the phenomenon you describe, and yes, it is amusing when you get a bloke who spends two hours getting ready to go out. Too Much Free Time

Greenbean

Yo Mamma, I know what you're saying. Its foreign and weird, why would a red blooded male want to do it BUT neither is it an issue worth talking about. They are simply different, not everyone aligns themselves to "normal" because "normal" is only an illusion. I wouldn't keep going on about it, after the initial interest, thats just being closed minded - unless to tell them to hurry the feck up.

C B

Originally posted by Yo Mamma

The contents of my bathroom consists of ..., shaving cream, aftershave , deodorant, ....

You fu(king ponce !!!

bonkey

Originally posted by Yo Mamma
However, there is another aspect to not having hair, and that is the masculine aspect of it. I think the only time a man should spend behind a mirror is when he's shaving his face, and the occasional popping of a zit, but that's it.

I'm amazed you havent had the "sexist brigade" jumping up n down on you for this post

I'd ask whether you currently have, or have ever had, a goatee, or any other form of "structured hair growth". If so, then please climb down off your high manly perch and join the rest of the vanity set on stage please.

Assuming that you havent, I still think your comments are horridly dangerous. You seem to think there is something "manly" about being able to get ready to go out in 30 seconds flat. You have a problem with blokes who dont do this. Your mate who put on makeup is "beyond vain" in your books.

By a similar extension, Do you think women are "beyond vain" and should be given a wake-up call for getting all dolled up before a night out? Should they all cut their hair short for convenience too?

If not, then you are setting standards for men and women seperately. In most people's books, this is called sexism.

jc

swiss

Originally posted by Yo Mamma
I just don't understand how any male would ever consider applying make-up to his face, or spending half a ****ing hour behind a mirror teasing his hair until it has that luscious shine, or whatever.

There are many reasons why a guy can be concerned about their appearance. The fact that it may be considered more 'masculine' to appear flippant in relation to one's physical appearance is a stereotype that does not always ring true. It does sound like the guy is quite vain, and tries very hard to look attractive (not hard to guess why if it's just before he's going out). People have different fetishes, be they in relation to hair or any other physical feature.

One question though. If you think this aspect of this fella's behaviour is strange or perverse, do you think it's strange if a woman does the same thing in order to get herself noticed in the pub/niteclub. As bonkey pointed out, placing dual standards for each sex is sexist. If you think that everyone who are deemed 'normal' all conform to societal normalities (in terms of their exhibited behaviourisms) then you may be in for a surprise

neuro-praxis

Who cares?

Lucky you to have nothing to worry about in life except that some men aren't as "masculine" as you are, oh virile one. Please, start a class in teaching young boys how to be "real men". I'm sure you'll toughen them up in no time with your manly threatening voice. Perhaps you could beat them to get the message across? That's manly too.

Who gives a damn? Perhaps your issue is vanity, and not masculinity. That's a whole other issue though. I have a male friend who wears make up and thinks I don't know and frankly I DON'T GIVE A DAMN BECAUSE HE HAS A GOOD PERSONALITY AND WHAT HE DOES IN THE BATHROOM IS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.

:rolleyes:

TwoShedsJackson

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