The 100 Greatest Films

Mills

Anyone catch this over the weekend on channel 4? I watched all of it and it wasn't bad, pretty entertaining, but with any attempt to put so many great films in order you're never going to be able to please everyone.

One thing i didn't like was the way the 100 films were chosen by channel 4 beforehand and people could only vote for what order to put them in, I noticed a lot of old films that I'd never heard of were at the bottom, but I suppose had the list been left completely up to the voting public there would have been many classics left out, it's hard to know.

O the whole the program was entertaining and you can't really ask for anything more than that, Graham Norton was even funny in parts, unusual for a presenter on one of channel 4's "top 10" or "top 100" shows. My personal favourite, the shawshank redemption, came in at number 3, which was a bit of a bonus for me . Star wars came top, The Godfather 1/2 was 2nd.

chunk 3:16

i thought that it was a very good
and enjoyable way to spend 6
hours.

But the only thing that pissed me off
was the stupidly high placement of
the matrix = 15 and
gladiator = 6

why are these two films so high
when dr stranglove is at number 54

and there was only one coen brothers film
in the whole 100 as a great man once said

" whats up wit dat"

Goodshape

strangelove should have been hire (personal favourite). A few more Kubrick films should have featured aswell... but all in all a good show, and better than most TV "Top 100's".

Didn't know CH4 had a predetermined list. Wouldn't mind knowing who came up with that.

...glad to see SW:ROTJ and Godfather 3 get the cold sholder

OSiriS

I my opinion any film less than 5 years old should have a very good reason to be anywhere in that list. A number of the films may have deserved their position, but most wouldn't and are only there because of their freshness and popularity. You can be assured that their greatness will not be debated 50 years down the line. I only saw the 50-40 films the 1st night, and was horrified to see some of the films listed as being place in the second show. I didn't see it, but I am sure that Titanic was in there somewhere ... how many laughed?

Goodshape

I only saw the 50-40 films the 1st night,

....

I didn't see it, but I am sure that Titanic was in there somewhere

nop, Titanic was in the fifties. Shawshank got 3rd though!.. and usual suspects was very high, so were gladiator and the matrix (although, I realy did like the matrix)

..all good films, but undeservidly high on the list. Citizen Kane was around 20 I think.

OSiriS

Well that is a relief of sorts ... I still don't think it deserved a top 100 place though

Lemming

Were the "Great Escape", Platoon, and Rollerball anywhere on the list??

and if so, whereabouts??

the celtic tiger

Titanic definitely did deserve to be there, if not a little higher. I'm not saying the acting was great or anything but it was a great film. One might even say spectacular.

If it was rated by people who actually judge films for a living, i will wager it would have been in the top twenty. Even look at the amount of oscars it was nominated for and recieved!!!! A mediocre film wouldn't be nominated for that many oscars by critics and peers.

It stands to reason that it should be up there.

Lemming

Originally posted by the celtic tiger
Titanic definitely did deserve to be there, if not a little higher. I'm not saying the acting was great or anything but it was a great film. One might even say spectacular.

If it was rated by people who actually judge films for a living, i will wager it would have been in the top twenty. Even look at the amount of oscars it was nominated for and recieved!!!! A mediocre film wouldn't be nominated for that many oscars by critics and peers.

It stands to reason that it should be up there.

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but that WAS a sarcastic post, yes?? I sincerely hope it was!!! :P

Niallmac

The great escape came in at 39 which I thought was very dissappointing. Was surprised to see Bladerunner in at no 8, know it has a big cult folloowing but I did not think it was that big. It is a fairly good film all the same. Was surprised 12 Angry Men did not feature in the top twenty, that is a great film.

Lemming

Originally posted by Niallmac
The great escape came in at 39

ffs!!! :rolleyes:
That film is a top 20 contender!!

Was surprised to see Bladerunner in at no 8, know it has a big cult folloowing but I did not think it was that big. It is a fairly good film all the same.

I'm not. Well .. #8 is a little high, but certainly top-20. That is a serious cult-film. But also, everyone knows about that film too. I don't think I know anybody who has seen that film and NOT thought it was good.

the celtic tiger

My last post wasn't sarcastic at all.

I was very disappointed that Indiana Jones didn't feature.

I think star wars is a great movie and all, but it's not the greatest movie of all time.

The Lion King should have been in the top 100 for sure. It's a wonderful life had a good placing, but possibly could have been a litle higher.

One flew over the cuckoos nest should have been top 10 and bumped gladiator down to the 40's.

Lemming

Originally posted by the celtic tiger
My last post wasn't sarcastic at all.

Well .. in that case ....

Titanic is 2 hours too long. The film has been berated by just about every critic around, and most people I know don't like the film (except for when the ship sinks). So I sincerely doubt that film would have been higher up the list as you suggested. I do in fact think it would have been further DOWN the list, if not excluded altogether.

Kali

I only managed to watch the last 26 or so...
Awful shame that Star Wars was the number one movie.. I wouldn't even rank it in my top fifteen.
Does anyone know if Life Is Beautiful was mentioned?
also I didn't see Das Boot or Platoon in there either.
Apocalypse Now beaten by Gladiator? oh dear.
Glad to see that the Godfather/Godfather2 and Shawshank were deservedly in the top three.

the celtic tiger

i didn't see life is beautiful or platoon in it either.


And back to you lemming.

In a year that films like LA confidential, as good as it gets, good will hunting, Mrs. Brown, Wag the Dog and the Full Monty were released, Titanic notched a rather impressive 14 nominations and 11 wins, including best director and BEST PICTURE!


Did they just give it awards for the craic or what, or was it a great film that deserved the awards it got???? hmmmm.
let's just dwell on that for a moment.

Lemming

Originally posted by the celtic tiger
And back to you lemming.

In a year that films like LA confidential, as good as it gets, good will hunting, Mrs. Brown, Wag the Dog and the Full Monty were released, Titanic notched a rather impressive 14 nominations and 11 wins, including best director and BEST PICTURE!


Did they just give it awards for the craic or what, or was it a great film that deserved the awards it got???? hmmmm.
let's just dwell on that for a moment.

In hollywood .. money talks .. and well .. Titanic cost a LOT of money. The film looks nice, but that it. It's just eye-candy, and I think that a LOT of people who like films noticed that as well. As I said earlier, just about EVERY SINGLE critic slated it (and most people I know too - which is a lot). The acting is absolutely terrible (with the exception of Kate Winslet), and the film is two hours WAY too long.

the celtic tiger

i beg to differ.

Our very own Dave Fanning thought it was superb. In fact go to film.com and have a look at a few reviews there.

Lemming

Originally posted by the celtic tiger
i beg to differ.

Our very own Dave Fanning thought it was superb. In fact go to film.com and have a look at a few reviews there.

Why should I .. I know that most other people seem to dislike it except for the special effects.

Sadly, acting and original storylines are something found in rare supply these days, and so many people are dazzled by special effects.

Personally .. the effects are good, the rest is baggage (except for Kate Winslet).

As for the oscar awards ... I question the integrity of ANY event that gives an award to the likes of Titanic (with the exception of the effects) awards over the likes of L.A. Confidential and Good Will Hunting, which are CLEARLY superior films.

RasTa

why was gladiator so high?
that film is seriously overated

Lemming

Originally posted by RasTa
why was gladiator so high?
that film is seriously overated

Overrated? - yes.

But in contrast to Titanic, that film had decent acting, excellent cinematography, and was well executed and paced.

Jaden

There are some films not there, that really should have been, some you would agree with some not, but 3 or 4 really stick out:

1. Ben Hur. It defines what an epic film is.

2. Close Encounters of the thrid kind. This spawned ET, and countless others like it. This film is one of the most widely watched sci-fi films there are.

3. Willy Wonka and the choclate factory. Don't even TRY to say that this does not belong in the top 100. It never ages, and you'd STILL watch it if it was on.

4. Breakfast at Tiffanies. One of the best examples of on screen chemistry ever. Peppard went downhill after this, and Hepburn was, well, Hepburn. A timeless classic.

5. Sixth Sense. *Shudder*.


Others that should you could argue that should have been there:

1. Leon. (Hitman falls in love with 10 year old girl, how could you go wrong with that storyline, and Luc Besson?).

2. Rocky. (Scoff if you will, but don't hammer a classic because of the crass sequels done later on).

3. Airplane. I defy you to watch this film and not wet yerself laughing. 10 times funnier than anything listed in that top 100.

4. Memento.


WARNING: RANT ALERT!

Just as a last point, Gladiator was a remake of Spartacus, and while a good film, is a plastic imitation of the original. The only reasons it scored so high were Russell Crowe (oh! he's only lovely!), and the fact that we're starved of truely epic films in this day and age of churned out Hollywood tripe.

TwoShedsJackson

Gladiator is probably so high because it's fresh in people's minds - they see it on the list and go 'oh yeah that was good, stick it down', where they mightn't have seen Ben Hur or Breakfast at Tiffany's in years, if ever.

6th is ridiculously high for it alright, 60th might have been better - it was a good film alright, just not that good. Was Seven there at all?

Lemming

Originally posted by Jaden
Airplane. I defy you to watch this film and not wet yerself laughing. 10 times funnier than anything listed in that top 100.

<sniggers> I remember that film .. haven't seen it in AGGGES!!! That film is funny. Thanx for that unexpected, and very enjoyable memory Jaden

Niallmac

I think that both Gladiator and Titanic are worthy of top twenty slots. Now that it is mentioned I am surprised that Ben Hur was not in there either. I was also mildly surprised when I did not see The Odd Couple in the top forty. Did that get a mention at all? That is also a very funny film.

seamus

Airplane is on Sky 1 on Fri at 9, I've been reliably told. :D Apparently, the list was graded mainly on the basis of cinematography, enjoyability etc, rather than the actual storyline so I would think the matrix should have done pretty damn well there(like it did). Funnily, I saw Some Like It Hot the night before, and it was well deserving of it's place. Damn Funny. WTF was the story with the Godfather? I'm probably gonna be killed, but I thought that film was absolute shíte!

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by Jaden
Ben Hur. It defines what an epic film is.

Leon. (Hitman falls in love with 10 year old girl, how could you go wrong with that storyline, and Luc Besson?).

Memento.

Utterly agreed here.

How Gladiator rated above Ben Hur, or Sparticus is beyond me, yet I do think it was deserving of a place in the list, just not so high.

I was gratified that someone mentioned Conan The Barbarian at the end where they asked what films would you like to have seen included. And Ed Wood for that matter.

Brazil also should have been up there. (Or did I miss it?)

I didn't see the whole thing though, did anyone see any of the following in there:

Excalibur
The Big Lebowksi
Twelve Monkeys
Braveheart
Any Tim Burton movies?

Pugsley

I thought gladiator was brilliant and deserved a spot in at least top 30....6 was a bit high though.
As for the shawshank Redemption...very well deserved spot in at 3,i couldnt get over how good it was after it was over,its brilliant!!
I still havent seen the godfather tho All i know is that 1 + 2 are both brilliant,ill rent them out if I see them in extravision,because everyone i know says its class.
Starwars....kinda had to win didnt it ?? it made sci-fi what it is today.

Anyone know where Alien/Aliens was ?? its my all time fave film (aliens) and i know its in the top 40somewhere.
Matrix 15 ?!?! they must have been mad!!!! it was kinda cool but Blade makes it look like the Teletubbies in coolness!!! Although Blade doesnt even deserve to be in the top100 even though it is mega,MEGA cool.

Anyone know where there is a full list of the films ?? i want to see the top 40,because i only saw the 1st part

Goodshape

Originally posted by Pugsley
Anyone know where Alien/Aliens was ?? its my all time fave film (aliens) and i know its in the top 40somewhere.

...aliens wasint there. I thought Alien was <40, but if you didint see it then it must have been in the late 30's or something. Not sure though.

Matrix 15 ?!?! they must have been mad!!!! it was kinda cool but Blade makes it look like the Teletubbies in coolness!!! Although Blade doesnt even deserve to be in the top100 even though it is mega,MEGA cool.

dont be stupid. the matrix was the grand master of cool :cool: . blade was silly, get it right. :rolleyes:

OSiriS

Why people insist on calling Gladiator an epic is beyond me. Watch films like Ben Hur, Quo Vadis, Sparticus, The Ten Commandments. Gladiator attempted to emmulate the old MGM formula seen in such films, but I feel they failed to pull it off properly. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it but itplainly borrowed heavily from Ben Hur and particularly Sparticus. The only improvement was in the coreography of the fight scenes.
Watch Peter Ustinov in the role of Nero in Quo Vadis and tell me that it is not one of the best acted roles you have ever seen.

As I have said, and CastorTroy backed me up on it, alot of these films are still fresh in peoples minds. I can guarantee that in 20 years most of these recent "greats" will be all but forgotten.

Pugsley

Originally posted by OSiriS
I can guarantee that in 20 years most of these recent "greats" will be all but forgotten.

That statement is so true its almost scary.
Old classics like Sparticus,Godfather etc will be remembered as the origionals and so will never be forgotten.The film industry has gone downhill i think,now its all big budget lumps of horse s**t.Which are good at the time for the big audiences but arent truely great films.I ciuld almost guarentee that if you watched Shawshank Redemption in 20years you would still call it a masterpeice! Which is what made Star Wars so special,its still good viewing even though its well over 30years old.

the celtic tiger

dumbass

Bard

How people can ask "why did this movie not get higher?" and "how could they put this movie higher than they put this one?" is a tad amusing to say the least.

It's simple:

It was a popular VOTE.

People VOTED on this.

People, collectively, can be terribly thick.

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Personally, I'd have to agree with seamus in that I think the Godfather movies are terribly over-rated. The first one, for example, bored me to bits, and overall I thought it was a poorly acted rendition of a badly written story with very little substance to it. More than that, it failed to entertain me - and THAT is the basic requirement of ANY good movie. ... and before anyone says it, NO, it's not that I "just didn't get it" (I hate when people say that), - I got it - I understood it - ... I just thought it was rubbish, and that other movies (such as Donnie Brasco, Casino and even True Romance, among many) tell the gangster/mafioso/"family" story far better.

Why do people call Gladiator an epic?... Consider this... Why do people continue to show off their knowledge of OLD movies (such as Ben Hur, Spartacus, etc.) and insist that nothing has or ever will beat them?

... It's a bit of a rhetorical question anyway, isn't it? ... "Why do people call Gladiator an epic?" ... The answer? "BECAUSE ITS AN EPIC!" :rolleyes: . Look up the word epic in the dictionary...

An extended narrative poem in elevated or dignified language, celebrating the feats of a legendary or traditional hero.
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Surpassing the usual or ordinary, particularly in scope or size.
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Narrated in a grand style; pertaining to or designating a kind of narrative poem, usually called an heroic poem, in which real or fictitious events, usually the achievements of some hero, are narrated in an elevated style.

Substitute "film" for "poem" there... Gladiator fits the bill in all of the above.

It would help to have an understanding of what you are denying before you deny it ... of course it's an epic... it's a tale, told in a grand style, on a large scale, of historic events featuring a heroic character.

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Yeah, I think Leon, Braveheart, Aliens, The Big Lebowski, Sixth Sense, Willy Wonka and an Indiana Jones movie (Temple of Doom, anyone?) should have featured, - but hey, I didn't vote for (and wasn't on the panel that edited) this Top 100 list. Like I said, ... popular vote - a vote by people... and one thing you can always rely on people to do..., is to be stupid

Bob the Unlucky Octopus

Originally posted by OSiriS
Why people insist on calling Gladiator an epic is beyond me. Watch films like Ben Hur, Quo Vadis, Sparticus, The Ten Commandments. Gladiator attempted to emmulate the old MGM formula seen in such films, but I feel they failed to pull it off properly. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it but itplainly borrowed heavily from Ben Hur and particularly Sparticus. The only improvement was in the coreography of the fight scenes.
Watch Peter Ustinov in the role of Nero in Quo Vadis and tell me that it is not one of the best acted roles you have ever seen.

As I have said, and CastorTroy backed me up on it, alot of these films are still fresh in peoples minds. I can guarantee that in 20 years most of these recent "greats" will be all but forgotten.

Hear hear OSi, my thoughts exactly. I can't believe people have missed how much Scott has actually taken straight from Spartacus plot-wise, or how much he's watered it down. Spartacus isn't just about fight scenes, wooden dialogue (the characters seriously look like marionettes with someone moving their lips, very unconvincing stuff) or a poorly written plot, it's far more complex than that. For one thing, it actually examines better than any other Hollywood film, the desperate struggle between the patricians and plebians of Rome that was the hallmark of that period of history.

As far as whether Gladiator's an epic or not, I would say no. I somehow feel an epic film would have more convincing characters, and a little bit more substance in between the clash of cymbals. I mean let's face it, while we call Quo Vadis, Spartacus and Ben Hur epic films, in each film there is a myriad of plot threads which are meticulously explored. Gladiator on the other hand, is a very linear film. It's plot is very thin on the ground, and it truly is hard to suspend belief. The dialogue (except that delivered by Ollie Reed, and to an extent, Phoenix's melodramatic peformance) seems dull and contrived when delivered by the actors, who seem to be doing it merely to provide information that moves the plot along. Now that really shouldn't suprise anyone- if you simply look at the quality of the actors involved. I challenge anyone to tell me that Crowe and Phoenix hold a candle to such legends as Olivier, Ustinov, Douglas, Curtis or Laughton (all in Spartacus). Ustinov won an Oscar for his role as an unscrupulous gladiator trainer (a watered down version of this character is basically Ollie Reed in Gladiator), and Olivier was unlucky not to win one as well for his stirring patriotic peformance as Marcus Crassus, the renowned patrician of Rome.

As OSi says, they attempt the MGM swords & sandals formula- they got the spectacle right, but the story, characters, actors and even the pace in parts was seriously off the mark.

I'm absolutely astonished that 12 Angry Men wasn't more highly rated, and that Leon failed to make an appearance. I didn't watch the whole thing, but I'm fairly sure Gattacca didn't feature either. I was on the whole, extremely pleased with the top 10, Star wars would be my pick for number one, the Godfather, Pulp fiction and Bladerunner are all also genre-defining films. Titanic doesn't belong in the Top 100 from a critical point of view, but this being a popular vote, I suppose we can be thankful it didn't clinch a top 10 spot :P

I understand Bard's dislike of the Godfather saga, I must confess I didn't fully understand it until I'd almost finished college. The most amazing thing about the Godfather is that it's a study of change. Much in the way Forrest Gump takes us through a man's life, the Godfather explores how changing times and changing circumstances chart the path of a man's (Al Pacino's) life. From a bright-eyed youngster determined not to take part in the family business, by the end of the second film, Pacino's pulled off an incredible transformation. It's one of those films you either love or hate I suppose

Occy

DeadBankClerk

http://www.filmfour.com/greatest/results/results_all.jsp

1. Star Wars / The Empire Strikes Back
2. The Godfather / The Godfather (Part II)
3. The Shawshank Redemption
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Some Like it Hot
6. Gladiator
7. It's a Wonderful Life
8. Blade Runner
9. Schindlers List
10. Goodfellas
11. Psycho
12. Jaws
13. Apocalypse Now
14. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
15. The Matrix
16. Casablanca
17. The Usual Suspects
18. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
19. Citizen Kane
20. Raging Bull
21. ET
22. Taxi Driver
23. The Life of Brian
24. Singin' in the Rain
25. LA Confidential
26. The Wizard of Oz
27. 2001: A Space Oddysey
28. Kes
29. Vertigo
30. Lawrence of Arabia
31. Fargo
32. Gone with the Wind
33. Trainspotting
34. The Full Monty
35. The Graduate
36. Alien
37. The Silence of the Lambs
38. Withnail and I
39. The Great Escape
40. Toy Story
41. The Third Man
42. Four Weddings and a Funeral
43. The Sound of Music
44. Fitzcaraldo
45. Deliverance
46. The Good The Bad and The Ugly
47. Kind Hearts and Coronets
48. Chinatown
49. The Exorcist
50. Annie Hall
51. The Italian Job
52. Sunset Boulevard
53. The Jungle Book
54. Titanic
55. Jean de Florette / Manon des Sources
56. Dr. Strangelove
57. Rebel Without a Cause
58. Seven Samurai
59. A Matter of Life and Death
60. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
61. Secrets and Lies
62. Blue Velvet
63. La Dolce Vita
64. Spartacus
65. Metropolis
66. Bonnie and Clyde
67. King Kong
68. Get Carter
69. The Searchers
70. The Seventh Seal
71. Don't Look Now
72. Brief Encounter
73. M*A*S*H
74. The French Connection
75. Top Hat
76. The Producers
77. Three Colours Trilogy
78. Cabaret
79. Goldfinger
80. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves
81. The Gold Rush
82. High Noon
83. Saturday Night Fever
84. The Adventures of Robin Hood
85. Enter the Dragon
86. Breathless
87. Ice Cold in Alex
88. Battleship Potemkin
89. African Queen
90. The General
91. A Hard Day's Night
92. Way Out West
93. Henry V
94. Easy Rider
95. My Beautiful Launderette
96. Belle de Jour
97. The Bride of Frankenstein
98. Terminator
99. Saturday Night Sunday Morning
100. Do The Right Thing

koneko

Interesting viewing... can't say I agree with it too much though...

There are certain films that are my personal favourites that I would expect to see high up in a list like this, and did. Taxi Driver, Star Wars (sad but true), Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction (have to admit it's my all time fave), Blade Runner. Oh what a sick list

There are others that I would consider incredible films, that didn't do too well in this list. Fight Club (am I the only person that was blown away by this??), Aliens, Clockwork Orange, a few more but I'm too tired to remember them, heh.

There's a whole lot of films in this list that are very very good, but shouldn't really be in the top 20 at all. This is where it shows that it's a Voting list, not decided by critics (who admittedly aren't always right). Gladiator (good, loved it, but will it stand the test of time? I can think of 10 films that are better, then again...), The Matrix (oh come on! I enjoyed it as much as anyone but #15!!!), Crouching Tiger (again... not top20 material).

Don't get me started on Titanic. What a POS. Awful story, awful acting, awful everythign. Cept the CG/fx of course. The Full Monty? Secrets and Lies? Four Weddings and a Funeral? All English, all ok-ish. Why are they in the list at all?

Blade and the Matrix are equal (I prefer Blade in some ways, and The Matrix in others), but neither deserves to be in the top20.

Extorence

My favourite film would have to be, "Fight Club" or "Usual Suspects"

The Usual Suspects had a great ending, fight club was very entertaining i must add.

Mills

There are others that I would consider incredible films, that didn't do too well in this list. Fight Club (am I the only person that was blown away by this??)

I was very disappointed not to see fight club on the list, especially when they've included other films which have been released around/since fight club, like Gladiator or the Matrix, IMO fight club deserved to be on the list even without this.

More and more I'm thinking they should either leave it completely to the public to vote out of a selection of 500 or so and only show the top 100, or make it exclusively compiled by a panel of film critics, the two don't mix.

ayatollah

star wars is not that good!!!!!!



i'm not saying that it is not a good film but it's nowhere near the same league as the godfather1 & 2 or the usual suspectsetc...

this is my main problem with it there are others but i wont go into them now!!!

Guinnessman

I was surprised not to see the Indy films or back to the future series anywere in top 100. Id agree with the top 3 though

DeadBankClerk

omg they forgot Police Academy 4 : citizens on patrol


and where are the short circuit films!?
johnny five is alive!

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Like Guinessman said where were Indy and BTTF? OK they might not be revelatory excavations of the human psyche or feature outstanding performances scaling the height of emotion, but TBH who didn't want a hoverboard? And Indy just rocks.

Films I expected to see that didn't make it were the Big Lebowski cuz it's just so damn funny, the Long Good Friday cuz Bob Hoskins is just amazing in it, a Clockwork Orange although it's understandable why it wasn't voted since most people never got to see it.

IMO Silence Of The Lambs was never as good as Manhunter (based on the first Lecter book Red Dragon), which Hollywood execs have conveniently forgotten in order to remake it. Anthony Hopkins does a great camp act, but is that really what we want from a cannibal serial killer? Brian Cox was genuinely scary, simply because he acted normal. Point being you wouldn't realise he wanted to eat you until it was too late. Scary stuff.

Gladiator should stay in the list but boot it down to about 90.
Terminator but not Terminator 2? Whaaaat? Sorry but Terminator 2 is easily the better film, not only for the gfx.
Also as a diehard Pythonian I demand to know where The Holy Grail was in all this.

IMO the top spot would be decided by a bitchfight between the Usual Suspects (should have been in the top 10 at least), the Shawshank Redemption (the most uplifting film ever, and I'm saying this as a miserable little bastard), and the Godfather films - you need to watch GF1 and 2 to really get the point, with Pacino turning from the good little boy to the evil Capo.

OK now it's name 'n' shame time. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon... sorry but I've seen it all before. One time too often unfortunately. It wasn't only obvious they were on wires, it was obvious they were concentrating on staying upright instead of fighting. If you wanted to represent this genre there are better choices.

Trainspotting? Nothing compared to Requiem For A Dream.
The Full Monty? Er no... best film set in Sheffield possibly.
Four Weddings and a Funeral? Go away Hugh before I hit you.
Titanic? If only the film had sunk instead of the ship...

Finally since I haven't mentioned Star Wars yet, I guess it goes in at around 5.

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Originally posted by seamus
WTF was the story with the Godfather? I'm probably gonna be killed, but I thought that film was absolute shíte!

Seamus... you bring disrespect to the family... Don Corleone is not pleased.:p

DerekD Goldfish

I think Memento should have been there but it suffered because it was so new glad to see the fantastic usual suspects doing well

DeadBankClerk

did anyone enjoy cool hand luke as much as me?

dccarm

I've always argued that polls such as the hundred greatest films should exclude anything made within the past five years or so. I don't think you can properly judge a film without a decent amount of time to see how good it really is.
As for films missing from the list, Gregorys Girl is the greatest film ever bar none.