Killer pope

irishguy

what was the name of that pope who cause a load of wars and killed peope for power and money? i rember talking about it in school about 4 years ago but i just cant rember his name.

Loomer

John Paul II

irishguy

Thanx i couldnt think of that

Loomer

No Seriously - The Vatican Church was very much behind the implementation of fascist dictatorships in Latin and South America, i.e. General Pinochet in Chile (amongst others). As you are probably aware Pinochet stands accused of thousands of deaths. Maybe by timing is out a bit, but I'm pretty sure that JP II was head of the church at the time

irishguy

Originally posted by Loomer
No Seriously - The Vatican Church was very much behind the implementation of fascist dictatorships in Latin and South America, i.e. General Pinochet in Chile (amongst others). As you are probably aware Pinochet stands accused of thousands of deaths. Maybe by timing is out a bit, but I'm pretty sure that JP II was head of the church at the time

I think you are out with your timing just a bit we were talking about pope john paul II (1464-71) .but what you say is true the cathloic church promoted fascisim esp Mussolini the church wanted the people to support Mussolini because he was roman cathloic and was against communism which was russian ortherdox.

Catch_22

eh pope john paul II 1978 - present day


think you got the wrong name irish guy

c22

gandalf

was against communism which was russian ortherdox.

Err I think you'll find that communism is against organised religion full stop !

Gandalf.

irishguy

there have been a few simular named popes the pope we were talking about was john paul II the 212 pope (1464-71) Born in Venice in 1417; elected 30 August, 1464.gandalf you could be right about that its been a while scenic i did history but the cathloic church sided with Mussolini because he supported the cathloic church and they both hated communism. Communism was against religion esp the cathloic church but it was not that intrested in destroying the russian ortherdox church.(i think)

ConUladh

irishguy, paul not john paul

Catholic Church leader (1464-1471) Pietro Barbo elected 212th Pope of the Roman Catholic Church August 30, 1464
* Pope Paul II
born on --1417 in Venice, Italy
expired 7-26-1471 in Rome, Italy age 54

irishguy

Whoops,ConUladh your right it was paul :rolleyes:

Asok

The church only supported mussolini because he made the vatican its own state or so i believe

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Hobbes

I can't read braile.

Typedef

Dear oh dear.

Baz_

eh I think you'll find your post modified in the morning typedef

Typedef

Castor Troy
No Surrender!

Eh I meant to say.....
I have to go back to my planet now. Pope JP2's gaff, we're having a hoe down with Eamon Casey and a plethora of imbezzeling clerics, after all it's Saturday.

Excelsior

I don't think anyone has said this yet but I would like to let everyone know that Typedef, in my opinion, you IMPROVE this community with your well argued, excellently reasoned posts.

Typedef

hmm thanks ...

Sean

What has the Catholic church done for Ireland except being a bunch of peodophiles.

Manach

Over the centuries the Church has provided an education when the state was opposed or even hostile. It had acted to introduce a wider European culture to Ireland as well as protecting our native culture against total assimilation during English rule.

Baz_

ROFL!!

What a way to destroy a mans point, very funny indeed.

Manach

I belive I was actually politely replying to Sean's first point to the best of my knowledge of Irish History.
I am not saying that this balances out the wrongness/hiding of peodophiles during recent history by parts of the Church.

Baz_

I know that, I didnt mean anything underhanded by my rofl comment, but sean came here and tried to be smart, you came here and were actually intelligent and it was funny.