Will we beat Iran

b20uvkft6m5xwg

Well what d'yall reckon.

Can't exactly say I envy the lads having to go off to Tehran @ this point in time- but....

Me thinks the fitness of Big Roy will be crucial. If he's fit then I think we should do it. The home leg will be crucial, as I feel we would need a few goals in the bag. From what I saw in the 1st leg, Iran aren't shy going forward. Also, the game is Nov. 10th and the Iranians dont like the cold so we'll have to use that to our advantage [ Lets all hope for a pissing wet, windy day @ the Lanner:p ]

Verdict:
We might sneak it [fingers crossed] !!

GoneShootin

of course we will win. we pulled of miracles so far, one more wont hurt the space time fabric that much

cmon the boyz

WhiteWashMan

we will win comfortably.
im sayng 4-1 over the 2 legs

gandalf

We should win on paper !

Gandalf :rolleyes:

Pitty we are not playing on paper

Xterminator

I think it will be a very close game over the 2 legs.

I hope we will take at least a 2 goal cushion to Tehran.

Does any1 know if away goals count double?

x

nore

Away goals NEVER "count double"...

WhiteWashMan

Originally posted by nore
Away goals NEVER "count double"...

in a home and away 2 leg situation, goals always 'count double'

nore

Really? So, Team A plays Team B. In the first leg Team A plays at home and loses 0-1.
Early in the second leg Team A manages to go 2 goals to nil up. At this point what is the score? And how many goals does Team B now need to level the score?
By the "away goals count double" rule the score is now Team A 4 (2 away goals), Team B 2 (1 away goal)? So since Team B is now playing at home it needs 2 goals to level the score at 4-4? Right? WRONG!
The aggregate score is 2-1 to Team A. If Team B manages to score the aggregate score will be 2-2. If the match finishes like this there will be a tie at 2-2. And in order to "break the tie", away goals will now be counted - they won't be counted DOUBLE, they'll just be counted. Team A will win because of 2 away goals to Team B's 1. But the aggregate score will still be 2-2.
So, away goals NEVER "count double".

WhiteWashMan

oh look at me, im mr pedantic.

i think you know what is meant by counting double.
if you dont then stop being stupid.

nore

Listen, you child, don't trot out cliches so lazily and you won't have to be corrected.
As for

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
i think you know what is meant by counting double.

... I would understand "counting double" to mean multiplying it's value by two. In the situation of football I understand the "away goals rule" to be a means of breaking a tie at the end of a two-legged football match - but it doesn't mean that the value of the goals scored away from home is DOUBLED.
Just think about what you are writing.

WhiteWashMan

Originally posted by nore
Listen, you child, don't trot out cliches so lazily and you won't have to be corrected.
As for

... I would understand "counting double" to mean multiplying it's value by two. In the situation of football I understand the "away goals rule" to be a means of breaking a tie at the end of a two-legged football match - but it doesn't mean that the value of the goals scored away from home is DOUBLED.
Just think about what you are writing.

ohhh. touchy arent we.....

i do apologise, what cliche was that again?
you are obviously not a follower of football otherwise you would know that the away goal rule is the same thing.

probably a celtic supporter as well. theyre all annoying bas7ards...

nore

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan

what cliche was that again?

The one that says that in a two-legged football match "away goals count double"! Which as I think I have clearly established is NOT TRUE.

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan

you are obviously not a follower of football otherwise you would know that the away goal rule is the same thing.

"The away goal rule is the same thing"? As what? The "same thing" as what? (Did you go to school? Did they teach writing the English language there? And you're a moderator!) The away goals rule is a means of deciding a two-legged football match when the aggregate score is level and works by means of comparing the scores of each team in their respective away legs and has nothing to do with doubling anything. "Away goals count double" is just a lazy hackneyed expression which means nothing.

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan

probably a celtic supporter as well. theyre all annoying bas7ards...

Liverpool actually - hope that doesn't mean you have to alter your prejudices.

Mountjoy Mugger

Originally posted by Xterminator
Does any1 know if away goals count double?
x

Back on topic again and to answer your question. Away goals do count double.

GoneShootin

and let the flames begin.....

WhiteWashMan

oh dear lord.
we have a dog with a bone here....
fine have it your way.
you have a long way to go before you learn to
troll, but your making good headway.

im glad youve given me your informed opionion.
i will take, it look at it, examine it and then cast it away.

after all, they do say that the empty can rattles the most.
and you my friend, do seem to be rattliong on.

so we will have it your way.
away goals it is.
but they count double if scored with the left foot?

Xterminator

"Away goals count double" is just a lazy hackneyed expression which means nothing.

In football parlence,in casn be said away goals count double in a two legged playoff, or a league table

This means if the score is tied at the end of the match/league, away goals are the deciding factor.

The other option is away goals donrt count, and another rule is used to seperate the tying teams, such as fair play score etc.

The key(, and obviously difficult for you) point here is it is in football parlence, not in the oxford dictionary.

If that statement was examined by say an English teacher who did not understand football, they might draw the same conclusions as you profess.

BUT if they were a football fan, they would know that in football terms, it means something else.

(Did you go to school? Did they teach writing the English language there?

And thats just bad manners. Dont speak to your elders in that fashion young man!

X

WhiteWashMan

thank you mr. x.
much appreciated.


oh yes, we will beat iran by the way.
oh, ive laready said that.
but i dont think away goals will count coz we will beat them anyway. mind you if we score 8 and the score 5 goals in ireland, will they win?
like if away goals are double and all our goals are hoime goals. that would make 10 - 8 to them wouldnt it?

b20uvkft6m5xwg

Ah come on Lads

Cant we all just get along....and more importantly back OT

See if FIFA have a vbulletin on their site for you to debate the rules:)

nore

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
you have a long way to go before you learn to
troll

What? What the f%ck is "troll"? I'm not trying to "troll" or learn to "troll". I was just trying to explain how the away goals rule operates and how it has nothing to with "doubling". It was just a point of fact.

(And please don't explain what "to troll" means - I can only guess it is some sort of subtlety of posting that is only understood by people who have posted, like, a thousand times, dude!!)

TwoShedsJackson

Shut the fuck up the lot of you.

As to the topic at hand, we should beat Iran over two legs - if we carry on our group form we will definitely win, however we do have a slight tendancy to choke in playoffs

A couple goal cushion and a clean sheet at Lansdowne and we should be ok. But you never know in football, it's a game of two halves and four corners.

The team that puts the ball in the net the most wins etc. etc.

Hairy Homer

I hope we do. But it really all depends on the first leg at Lansdowne Road, and if we have a run of bad luck, or they defend with the keeper up front and the other ten behind him, they could sneak a scoreless draw, which would be a nightmare.

Don't fancy watching our boys in Teheran needing a result to go through.

I just can't believe a defence as flimsy as ours is going to go through an entire qualifying competition without a couple of howlers. Please, God. Let them just hang on for one more match.

WhiteWashMan

Originally posted by nore

What? What the f%ck is "troll"? I'm not trying to "troll" or learn to "troll". I was just trying to explain how the away goals rule operates and how it has nothing to with "doubling". It was just a point of fact.

(And please don't explain what "to troll" means - I can only guess it is some sort of subtlety of posting that is only understood by people who have posted, like, a thousand times, dude!!)

here you go.....

b20uvkft6m5xwg

Totally and utterly completley OT....

but serious LOL:D

GoneShootin

i hear the jingle jangle of the LOCK UP keys a comin