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Censorship on boards.ie by the thought police

  • 21-10-2001 8:18pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭


    I think its disgraceful that people with legitamate non violent viewpoints are censored on these forums.I had a post deleted because i spoke a truth the happy-happy utopia liberals of this country would rather ignore.On the subject of travellers i poiunted out that they are more likely to commit crime than the general population.This view cannot be banned as racist.Travellers are ethnically Irish people,not another race.I didnt call for any kind of murder,violence,deportation etc.So this dosent constitute inflaming hate does it?It was on a subject intitled "Why do you hate the English"in which some expressed views worse than mine,but they dont get censored.Please do not remove this post as it is a legitmate view which demands anwsers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Censorship by the Cretin Police more like - you called all Travellers scum amongst other things and were generally your usual abusive self. If that's not inflaming hatred I don't know what is.

    If you're not happy with posts that contain only moronic drivel being deleted feel free to not post in Humanities any longer.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I wonder if you go into a wine bar and start complaining they dont serve you beer.

    most people are very happy here. A few arent. you are free to not come here any more.

    In all my time on Boards I've never seen Castor delete something that wasnt bang out of line.

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭ConUladh


    If you've got a point to make on a sensitive subject then you have to think out you points very carefully, sweeping statements don't cut it

    Reminded of this yesterday watching TV3's Agenda where Kevin Myers made a couple of comments critical of Islam (statements of fact but not flattering), playing with fire but he handled it well

    Personally I wouldn't be able for such delicacy (most of us aren't) so I just keep my mouth shut when it come's to sensitive issues like this, sounds like you should probably do the same


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Bob the Unlucky Octopus


    Oh great...the peasants are revolting again...take him to Room 101 O'Brian...I mean DeVore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Originally posted by Bob the Unlucky Octopus
    Oh great...the peasants are revolting again...take him to Room 101 O'Brian...I mean DeVore.

    <sad_movie_reference>
    The peasents are always revoltin', but now they're rebellin' as well.
    </sad_movie_reference>

    jc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Bob the Unlucky Octopus


    I declare myself patron saint of p3on movie quotations...shoo, jc, shoo!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭JustHalf


    Let's see if we can get this thread up to 88 miles an hour!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭Blitzkrieger


    Originally posted by DeVore
    In all my time on Boards I've never seen Castor delete something that wasnt bang out of line.

    'course you didn't - he deleted it :p

    tbh I'm mystified too - we had a discussion about travellers ages ago and there was probably worse said then. I suppose now there's a greater audience on the boards the moderators have a greater responsibility for removing offensive(ish) content?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Typedef


    Seriously.

    What the hell do you actually care about travellers? I get quite a bit of flack on linuxnewbie.org as being Irish alot of the views I have that people seem to regard as pretty mainstream on boards.ie are deemed as
    communist
    liberal
    socialist
    nazi

    which is ok, I kind of like that my American friends think I'm leftwing it gives me something to troll about because everyone here is so tolerant.

    My point. Why would you have the slightest inclination to troll about Travellers? Travellers are disowned by this state and really can't you show some more understanding towards Travellers, and kids of all ages do destructive things, or at least I did when I was a kid.

    Now lots of smack addicts are so crazed looking for drugs that they do crazy things, and lots of those reallly desperate addicts are homeless. There is a homeless shelter that has just opened up on my street in inner city Dublin. Ok right around the corner there is the AA where alcoholics hang out and scab money from people going to and from the AA and presumably going to the AA itself. So what? you say. There is a girls national shcool right between these two centers, hmmm real nice location no? My point.
    I would really rather both of these centers were not on my doorstep, I would really rather the great brains that saw fit to locate these centers on opposite sides of a 5-7 year old girls school had thought better of it and put it say on their own street but they have to be somewhere right? People are homeless of drunks or addicts not by choice but by accident I believe so, should I call these people scum and say get the fsck out of my face and off of my street now?

    Nope I should recognise that many human beings in this world are not as fortunate as I and that it is my responsibility to help them out if not by getting involved with helping them out, then at least being tolerant enough and understanding enough to realise that I should be tolerant & empathatic.

    Travellers are people just like you or I , simply in a different set of circumstances mostly not of their own making and in any event even if I do not choose to live as a Traveller I should not pass judgement on people who do. That's their choice, it's a tradition and way of life too yeah? Really I don't know anything about it and that is reason enough not to scorn it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Originally posted by DeVore

    In all my time on Boards I've never seen Castor delete something that wasnt bang out of line.

    Hmm, I remember (hazily) about some netiquette argument, where he just mis-read my post, and deleted it, even tho the problem was only with a small part of it.

    Still he's pretty fair, and tbh it's not very PC to make a comment about traveller's like that. If CT wants to delete it, then well he can easily justify it. You might not have said it, but your statement might have implied that all/or most of travellers are criminals. Although if you watched "Snatch" too much I could see why...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 unsane


    Wow, another genius who thinks 'Hitler had the right idea'. :rolleyes:


    If I edit a post, don't re-edit it unless you feel like being banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Originally posted by Blitzkrieger


    tbh I'm mystified too - we had a discussion about travellers ages ago and there was probably worse said then. I suppose now there's a greater audience on the boards the moderators have a greater responsibility for removing offensive(ish) content?
    I strated that thread... it wasn't supposed to be a "member of the traveling community bashing thread, it just turned ugly after a while. It started off me complaining that a group of these ppl came into my cyber café assaulted me n robbed the place n i was sayin if they tried to entre again i'd
    grab the nearest brush
    ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    SMB CASTOR TROY

    *That is ALL*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Unsane, you're obviously an idiot, so let me put it this way:

    If I edit or delete a post of yours, don't re-edit or re-post it.
    Hitler had the right idea when he wanted to kill all the gypsie's(sp?), we need someone with that vision over here to sort out these 'travellers'.

    Don't try to pass that off as a 'joke' - you weren't joking in your original post.

    If you don't like being censored by pinko lefty liberals because of your oh-so-outrageous views - don't post here any longer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 unsane


    Help, help!! I'm being oppressed!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Originally posted by unsane

    we all get on with our lives, i do not see anything wrong with expressing my views on this forum or on any other forum.

    Ok, if we could all express our most extremist opinions to our heart's content, why would we have mods? It would be a glorious free-for-all :) But since expressing that veiw in public ,in most places in this country wouldn't exactly endear you to those listening, to put it mildly, so why should such opinions be tolerated here? Just because you believe that you have some kind of anomanimity(sp?) here doesn't give you a right to do that.


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