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Converting a trinty degree into one from Oxford/Cambridge

  • 04-11-2005 4:57pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 756 ✭✭✭


    Oxford and Cambridge college rules allow for the 'incorporation' of trinity degrees into degrees from their universities. The rules for Oxford are here.

    So the rules says you can get your degree incorporated if you get a teaching job at the university or become a student.

    Does anyone know which courses count as being a student? There are plenty of post-grad taught courses with smallish fees and little in the way of entrance requirements. Anyone know what the minimum course is and have any of you gone through this process?

    thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,579 ✭✭✭Pet


    Traitor!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭padser


    So first you want to 'buy' your MA. Then you would like to change it to an Oxford degree. Im impressed. You dont look for shortcuts at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Zaph0d


    I just scraped the degree in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭rugbug86


    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 thecheekofyou


    Just in case you are confused, you cannot "convert" your degree. You would need to apply to the other University to award you their degree instead of the Dublin one. You would need to have your results, have not commenced in Dublin and have been accepted into a course in the other University. Good luck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭cuckoo


    Just in case you are confused, you cannot "convert" your degree. You would need to apply to the other University to award you their degree instead of the Dublin one. You would need to have your results, have not commenced in Dublin and have been accepted into a course in the other University. Good luck.

    Therein lies the main problem with this for me (leaving aside the whole 'why would you want a degree from the college you didn't study at?). If I successfully finish my course in trinity i want my Big Day Out in the Exam Hall, with the cap, gown and tearful parents in attendance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 thecheekofyou


    You could of course have all that in the other University, if you could pull it off. On a pedantic point, the Universities award degrees, not the colleges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Zaph0d


    1.7. (1) The incorporation of any person under the provisions of these regulations shall mean his or her admission to the same degree or position in this University as that to which he or she has attained in his or her former university.
    You would need to ... have not commenced in Dublin ....
    I can't see this in the rules I posted above

    Have you got a source for this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 thecheekofyou


    Once you pass your finals, you have attained your BA (or whatever) position. Then you can take your degree from Dublin (naturally) or one of the other Universities (providing they let you).

    That's how I understand it anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭punka


    Zaph0d wrote:
    There are plenty of post-grad taught courses with smallish fees and little in the way of entrance requirements. Anyone know what the minimum course is and have any of you gone through this process?

    You won't get into Oxford or Cambridge without at least a 2:1. Besides, what's the point of enrolling for a postgraduate degree there just so you can change your undergraduate degree? You'll still have a degree from Oxbridge at the end of your course, on top of the one from Trinity. What's the big deal?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Zaph0d


    punka wrote:
    You won't get into Oxford or Cambridge without at least a 2:1.
    That's a guideline but not all courses are so strict and some take work experience, publications etc into account.
    Besides, what's the point of enrolling for a postgraduate degree there just so you can change your undergraduate degree? You'll still have a degree from Oxbridge at the end of your course, on top of the one from Trinity.
    My idea was to register for a post grad course in Oxford, 'incorporate' my degree before starting and then drop out. Then, 3 years later, 'proceed' to an MA by paying the requisite fee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭punka


    I really doubt they'll let you away with it. You'd still have to pay for the course and the incorporation fee. But I take your point about admissions requirements. To be honest, though, I think you're going to excessive extremes just to get a more prestigious degree without having worked for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    plus the one thing is that if you're doing a science program, you're awarded an undergrad BA Mod. - however a masters awarded in the same subject (for instance in my subject CS) would be a MSc in Computer Science. an MA in CS would look quite dumb :P


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