Online Stock Tracking/Trading!

Brianb8802

Hi there guys,

Im just wondering do ye know what the best online stock tracking/trading website is??

I have a lash of shares in several companies, AIB/Goodbodies are handling my shares for me. But to be honest they are doing **** all. Just taking money off me when i trade, they very rarely give me advise and now that i think of it they havent rang me in about 3 or 4 years.

I have decided to take my share dealing into my own hands. I track my shares on a online portfolio that i have set up on yahoo, its very simple to set up and they have a good layout.

But now that i am going to do the trading myself aswell, do you have any good suggestions what site i should do it with. Obvisiously the most important thing is the % rate, then ease of use, then ease of setting up.

Thanks,
brianb8802

GP

there's quite a few. Are the shares local or international ?

try www.etrade.com.

Brianb8802

Ive got mostly irish and english shares, but i do have one that is canadian based.

Thanks for the link ill take a look at it now

Reyman

Sharewatch, Davy's and Goodbody all have local online services.

Watch for the commission level though. As usual, Ireland is more expensive than any place else.

Sharewatch is the least expensive, though some posts here say their service isn't great.

madaboutmoney

I've invested some money with Rabodirect - they do a range of managed funds. No advice given but plenty of info and calculators on the site. Charges are very low - I bought a Merrill Lynch Emerging Europe fund for 0.25% entry although this was a discounted price. They normally charge 0.75%. Not the same as buying individual shares I know but I prefer to spread the risk around and don't have time to keep a track of individual shares. Hope this is of some help.

Reyman

Interesting about Rabodirect - I didn't know they did funds. That 0.25% entry sounds very good and better than Quinn. What's the annual management fee?
How do you handle tax i.e. CGT or income tax if it's overseas based?

kluivert

www.fool.co.uk

You'll have to scroll down and find the section on share dealing.

Fmicrochip

Anyone got any stock tips?

RainyDay

Fmicrochip wrote:

Anyone got any stock tips?

Don't place any value on any 'tips' that you get on bulletin boards.

Fmicrochip

..yes...obviously research before you dive in with the money.

One I like at the moment is RHAT.
SNDK has been good the last few months but it seems the gravy train may be near the end...

madaboutmoney

Reyman wrote:

Interesting about Rabodirect - I didn't know they did funds. That 0.25% entry sounds very good and better than Quinn. What's the annual management fee?
How do you handle tax i.e. CGT or income tax if it's overseas based?

The management fee varies from fund to fund. The fee on the Emerging Europe fund is 2%. 1.75% on the Merrill Energy Fund. They launched a property fund a while ago and the annual fee is 1.2% on this.
CGT - you have to declare any gains yourself when you sell the funds. I haven't sold mine so I don't have to declare anything.

bob90909

Brianb8802 wrote:

Hi there guys,

Im just wondering do ye know what the best online stock tracking/trading website is??




www.stockbrokers.barclays.co.uk
is fairly okay and dependable. they will set u a euro foreign trading account for you if requested. Rabodirect offer a good service but fees are a bit steep.
Ive used e-trade in the past and found them utterly HOPELESS. their phone service is manned by idiots of the likes Ive never experienced before or since and they keep you on hold for ages even for the most minor of enquires.
The Irish crowds are total rip off

edanto

kluivert wrote: »

www.fool.co.uk

You'll have to scroll down and find the section on share dealing.

I liked the "steady-grow, hassle-free option and buy shares with The Motley Fool ShareBuilder for just £1.50.", I'm not really gonna be a day trader.

The small print said that I had to be a UK resident, is there another place to sign up if you're international?

EDIT: Think this is a record for the oldest thread I ever resurrected!! Must have improved in the last 3 years!!

surveys

edanto wrote: »

I liked the "steady-grow, hassle-free option and buy shares with The Motley Fool ShareBuilder for just £1.50.", I'm not really gonna be a day trader.

The small print said that I had to be a UK resident, is there another place to sign up if you're international?

EDIT: Think this is a record for the oldest thread I ever resurrected!! Must have improved in the last 3 years!!

Haha, resurrect again please. !

So far, all the recommendations I have read only mention share dealing with UK companies which are NOT open to non-uk residents. ! Could someone kindly recommend a share dealing company other than Irish (they are terribly expensive) where Irish people can deal. Motley Fool and Barclays were good but not open to us.

surveys

With world share prices at almost unbelievable 'lows' now is the time to invest. For most shares the only road now is UP. Might take a while to get going but 'if your not IN you cant WIN'. !

SerialComplaint

surveys wrote: »

For most shares the only road now is UP.

THanks so much for cheering me up. I haven't had such a good laugh in weeks.

rugbyman

to poster,
there was quite a bit of info in the investments and markets thread some time ago on this subject. several posters talked about US stockbrokers n being both good and low cost.

Regards,Rugbyman

Merrion

Internaxx are competitive.

Reyman

edanto wrote: »

I liked the "steady-grow, hassle-free option and buy shares with The Motley Fool ShareBuilder for just £1.50.", I'm not really gonna be a day trader.

The small print said that I had to be a UK resident, is there another place to sign up if you're international?

EDIT: Think this is a record for the oldest thread I ever resurrected!! Must have improved in the last 3 years!!

Op - thanks for bringing this thread back from the grave. We're mostly a lot poorer now than in 2005 in spite of our clever 'investment' decisions!

However try www.keytrade.com for trading - very reasonable and I find them good (even though my shares are a little lower)

surveys

SerialComplaint wrote: »

THanks so much for cheering me up. I haven't had such a good laugh in weeks.

There is no need to be insulting.! Why not reply with a constructive and helpful comment instead. ? Bank of Ireland and AIB shares have done exactly as I predicted, so I will just let the facts speak for me ! Nothing else needs to be said. !

SerialComplaint

surveys wrote: »

There is no need to be insulting.! Why not reply with a constructive and helpful comment instead. ? Bank of Ireland and AIB shares have done exactly as I predicted, so I will just let the facts speak for me ! Nothing else needs to be said. !

If you reckon that the growth in AIB/BOI proves your success, that is even funnier than your earlier post.

Anyone who goes into any equity investment at any time thinking that the only way is up is a fool. Markets rise and fall. The fact that a share is cheap does not make it good value. The probability of an amateur seeing something in the value of a share that the full-time professionals with the best analysis tools at their fingertips don't see is tiny.

Shares rise and fall - that's what the do. Don't invest money that you can't afford to lose.

surveys

SerialComplaint wrote: »

If you reckon that the growth in AIB/BOI proves your success, that is even funnier than your earlier post.

Anyone who goes into any equity investment at any time thinking that the only way is up is a fool. Markets rise and fall. The fact that a share is cheap does not make it good value. The probability of an amateur seeing something in the value of a share that the full-time professionals with the best analysis tools at their fingertips don't see is tiny.
Shares rise and fall - that's what the do. Don't invest money that you can't afford to lose.

I never suggested that markets only go up. ! You choose to ignore what I said, that the shares of AIB and BOI were fantastic value for the very fact that they were so low. ""The fact that a share is cheap does not make it good value". So it makes it bad value does it.. !!
In what would you rather invest. AIB at 27cents a share or AIB at euro:17 per share, which is what they were early last year. ? At 17 euro the chances of making much money were very slim indeed. At 27 cents the chances of making any money were extremely high. ! Or perhaps you would argue with even that ?
The professionals. ? Are you one of those. ? Market analyis tools ? "Candle sticks" ? "Probability charts" etc.etc. The biggest fools in the investment market are those that use such tools. ! No amount of mathematics or candlesticks are going to influence any movement in the stock markets, and to try and predict movements using them is foolish indeed. The only things that move markets are 'facts' and 'sentiments' and actual 'events'. You should know that. Will a candlestick or the likes of it predict a move in the markets, or will a big bank going bust, or lack of credit, or fraudelent bankers, or the scared public, or lack of sales, or government budgets, or statements from PM's and Presidents, actually move the markets or move the value of shares ?? Those who waste their time and money on buying such 'charts' and paying the so called 'gurus' to predict market movements and tell them when to buy or to sell are the fools !

As I watched AIB and BOI share prices dropping like a stone I got ready to invest, in the sure 'probability' that once they reached their bottom they could only go up. Thats exactly what they did. Are you arguing with that, or would you prefer to gaze at some 'professional' charts and wait for the charts to tell you when to invest. ? Are you still waiting ?

Incidently since when does making an observation or stating a belief make one a fool ? Has Boards.ie now become a place where nobody can make a reasonable statement or contribute to a thread without getting insulted by others. ? The likes of you. ! Who are you to make judgment upon others. ?
Even if you are a 'professional' and a believer in charts are you not open to suggestions by others, or is your mind totally closed. ?
Are you one of those who travels all over Boards.ie looking for other peoples comments so that you can criticise them and call them fools just for the fun of it ? Enough said ? You might like to disagree with other peoples comments, but that does not make them fools. Rather the person who indulges in it becomes the fool. !

SerialComplaint

1) No, I'm not a professional investor, and indeed you are correct in pointing out the many flaws associated with that profession.
2) In answer to the rest of your issues, see this post.

surveys

SerialComplaint wrote: »

1) No, I'm not a professional investor, and indeed you are correct in pointing out the many flaws associated with that profession.
2) In answer to the rest of your issues, see this post.

"See this post" ? Um, yes it is just above mine on this page. Why quote it back to me when its so obviously part of this thread ? Maybe I miss the point. ?

MrMatisse

www.tdwaterhouse.co.uk

you can hold your funds in multiple currencies.

You have to ring them if your an irish resident and they send you out an application pack.

surveys

Really-Stressed wrote: »

www.tdwaterhouse.co.uk

you can hold your funds in multiple currencies.

You have to ring them if your an irish resident and they send you out an application pack.

"""To open a trading account online with TD Waterhouse you will need to meet the following requirements:

* You are a private individual aged 18 or over
* You are a UK resident
* You are not a US national

If you do not meet these requirements, you may still be able to open an account with us. Please call us on 0800 138 1900 (from abroad, call 00 44 161 819 6467) """

Did you apply, and were you accepted. ? I think these links to other online traders are only useful if the full proceedure and requirements are known.
I would imagine the requirements for an Irish trader to register would be massive. Such as having a UK bank account ?

MrMatisse

No Its pretty straight forward

http://www.tdwaterhouse.co.uk/help/faq.cfm?faq=324

Seems intimadating when you read it but if you call them or drop into their office in london they are very helpful.( If you happen to be there!)

Lots of people on the Investments and markets forum use them was surprised to see that question here.

Original poster got some bad answers such as advice to use Barclays or Motly fool.

Stocktrade.co.uk is also open to Irish residents.

( Just Wondering whether this thread should be moved to the Investments and Markets forum? Two or three simular active threads there already)

The Guvnor

www.internaxx.lu seem to be a decent company. Worth a look.

surveys

The Guvnor wrote: »

www.internaxx.lu seem to be a decent company. Worth a look.

Signed up today. !
Will tell the thread of my experiences and if they any good later on.

Heisenberg.

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