A Hold'em hand (HH)

Lafortezza

As I've posted before I have very limited experience of hold'em cash games, stts/mtts/omaha have been all I've played online and I've probably lost money over the long haul at HE cash. So be gentle.

First hand, should I always be trying to get all-in here? Villain seemed to be a pretty good TAG player.

Hand 1:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($38.25)
Hero ($82.75)
BB ($60.60)
UTG ($60.55)
UTG+1 ($16)
MP1 ($19.50)
MP2 ($16.30)
CO ($13.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Kd, 5d.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 2d, 3d, Ah (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50, BB calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($3.50) Td (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $5, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $7.

River: ($27.50) 6s (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $16, Hero calls $16.

Final Pot: $59.50

Hectorjelly

If he is very good (and tight) then there is an argument for just calling river. If he is only ok then check raise river all in. At this level they will treat T J and Q flushes like the nuts. Also a point to note is that if the BB has you beaten he must of flopped a pair of aces, so why did he not bet? Im going all in on that river with those stacks 90% of the time.

willis

Hectorjelly wrote:

If he is very good (and tight) then there is an argument for just calling river.

if he is very good would he have not jus have called the hero's check raise on the turn if he had the nuts, wat reason does he have for reraising and showing the strenght of his hand, especially in position. if he has the nuts do u think he has extracted the most from a player with the 2nd nuts?again im new to cash, dont murder me in your analysis hector

Hectorjelly

willis wrote:

if he is very good would he have not jus have called the hero's check raise on the turn if he had the nuts, wat reason does he have for reraising and showing the strenght of his hand, especially in position. if he has the nuts do u think he has extracted the most from a player with the 2nd nuts?again im new to cash, dont murder me in your analysis hector

Your exactly right. A small reraise is nearly always a bad play with a strong hand on the turn, because it alerts your opponent to the fact that you have a big hand, but keeps the pot small. In this case just calling the check raise then tanking the river would be a viable play with the nuts, but I prefer a full pots size reraise. If he makes it 20 more its almost impossible for the king hi flush to fold on the turn, then on the river the king hi flush is going to feel committed for the rest of this money.

If the you ever see a hand where the Ace high flush didnt get the King high flush all in (assuming the boards isnt paired and its a 2 card flush) then the ace high flush must of played it very badly indeed.

Norwich Fan Rob

looks more like the Q or J high to me, certainly at 0.5/1

Lafortezza

I was a combination of the turn action where he bet, I raises and he reraised, that caused me to slow down.
Plus the fact that I'd been playing Omaha earlier where the K-flush isn't worth dick. Looking back I should have got it all in.
Villain showed 7d8d

NickyOD

Hey Luke how did you convert that hand? The bison convertor has been discontinued and I'm looking for a convertor for Party hands.

Lafortezza

Nicky,

http://clark5.net/cgi-bin/hhconverter.cgi

it doesn't work perfectly but for this thread I used the "Bet the Pot" format when converting.

RoundTower

Hectorjelly wrote:

Also a point to note is that if the BB has you beaten he must of flopped a pair of aces, so why did he not bet? Im going all in on that river with those stacks 90% of the time.

This is the most important point, if he is a good player he would surely have raised on the flop with top pair and the nut flush draw when no one has shown any strength.