Hallow'een Bonfires

LegacyUser

Is it just my estate .. or is there a big cut-down in the amount of bonfires this year?

Last year, the green on the left and the one in front of my house had a bonfire .. but there is not as much as a twig of firewood in sight! The day before Hallow'een.

billy the squid

bubby wrote:

Is it just my estate .. or is there a big cut-down in the amount of bonfires this year?

Last year, the green on the left and the one in front of my house had a bonfire .. but there is not as much as a twig of firewood in sight! The day before Hallow'een.

we have had a lot of rain over the past few days, its keeping the pyromaniacs inside.

Endurance Man

bubby wrote:

Is it just my estate .. or is there a big cut-down in the amount of bonfires this year?

Last year, the green on the left and the one in front of my house had a bonfire .. but there is not as much as a twig of firewood in sight! The day before Hallow'een.

They're allowed to just start fires in the middle of an estate .

Sarsfield

There's a great big mother of a bonfire stacked up on a 'green area' down my road. It's full of tyres so I expect a huge stink and a new hole in the ozone layer over Ballyfermot come tomorrow night Can the guards/council/fire brigade not deal with these or does Joe Citizen have to report it first? Burning rubbish is illegal isn't it?

Lenny

Ahh lighten up will ya, the kids love it. by the time theres a noticeable difference in the ozone layer for yourself you'll be on your way out anyway..

Endurance Man

Lenny wrote:

Ahh lighten up will ya, the kids love it. by the time theres a noticeable difference in the ozone layer for yourself you'll be on your way out anyway..

Not even going to justify that with an answer....

Karoma

Sarsfield wrote:

There's a great big mother of a bonfire stacked up on a 'green area' down my road. It's full of tyres so I expect a huge stink and a new hole in the ozone layer over Ballyfermot come tomorrow night Can the guards/council/fire brigade not deal with these or does Joe Citizen have to report it first? Burning rubbish is illegal isn't it?

For the love o... You're the sort of fool that calls the fire brigade out to put out a bonfire,and car fires (In a field),arentcha? I'm not a fan of the whole bonfire thing-but if it's an any way reasonable distance from houses, and not a fire hazzard you do not call the fire brigade. There's a finite amount of resources - that could otherwise be of use to ,oh i dunno, put out a housefire or something slightly more important..
If it bothers you so much-put it out yourself :rolleyes:

LegacyUser

Sarsfield wrote:

It's full of tyres ... Burning rubbish is illegal isn't it?

Sarsfield .. I'd say there is probably a lot worse than those tyres in there.
I saw some REALLY young kids wandering around last year, with no supervision (that I could see). I'd worry about the poor little things, it is their time of the year. But it is a dangerous one for them too. Sure we all know the story wth bangers going off all over the place.

Lenny .. I agree with you. I have fond memories of the once a year bonfire we used to have. It is a time for the kids, and parents have to be really careful and have eyes in the back of their heads literally!!

The guards are probably on pilot on Hallow'een, dealing with things as they happen, along with all the regular call outs. Some of the areas the guards get stoned out of it if they try to put order on things.

I love Hallow'een though, love to see the kids dressed up as ghosts and what not. It brings back fond memories.

Endurance Man

Karoma wrote:

For the love o... You're the sort of fool that calls the fire brigade out to put out a bonfire,and car fires (In a field),arentcha? I'm not a fan of the whole bonfire thing-but if it's an any way reasonable distance from houses, and not a fire hazzard you do not call the fire brigade. There's a finite amount of resources - that could otherwise be of use to ,oh i dunno, put out a housefire or something slightly more important..
If it bothers you so much-put it out yourself :rolleyes:

Fires are dangerous, kids should not be playing with fire and they are probably the ones starting these. I think calling the fire department is a very smart move. Kids are stupid when faced with a big fire and lots of friends to impress, to many accidents can happen.

Karoma

Which is why parents and members of the community should get involved to build one in a safe location and applying common sense...rather than calling out Gardai,and fire fighters -when clearly the fire has been built OK, and is not causing a direct hazard.

LegacyUser

Endurance Man wrote:

Fires are dangerous, kids should not be playing with fire and they are probably the ones starting these. I think calling the fire department is a very smart move. Kids are stupid when faced with a big fire and lots of friends to impress, to many accidents can happen.

Ah, to an extent I agree with you Endurance man. Well, rephrase it, I agree with you. I think it is up to the parents to supervise these fires. But in most cases this doesn't happen ... enough.

Someone posted above about cars on fire .. and pointed to NOT calling the fire brigade. If there was a car on fire in my estate I would call too. Fire is dangerous, when NOT supervised.

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Karoma wrote:

Which is why parents and members of the community should get involved to build one in a safe location and applying common sense...rather than calling out Gardai,and fire fighters -when clearly the fire has been built OK, and is not causing a direct hazard.

Yes, when the fire is controllable. If a fire goes out of hand, then it is time to call the experts in.

Sarsfield

So the fact that burning waste is illegal should be ignored? Is that what some people are suggesting? It's dangerous, filthy and annoying to residents.

Will the people who start the bonfire be clearing up afterwards? Will they re-seed the grass in the area they've destroyed? Will they pay for the disposal of the remains of the bonfire? Or will they expect the council to do it all for them and then protest about having to pay waste charges?

scojones

Bonfires have been in slow decline for years now.

billy the squid

For the love o... You're the sort of fool that calls the fire brigade out to put out a bonfire,and car fires

I'm sure you would like someone to call someone if it was your car going up in smoke.

scojones

billy the squid wrote:

I'm sure you would like someone to call someone if it was your car going up in smoke.

Unless it was an insurance claim

Karoma

"in a field" - i.e. Away from harm. If idiots are drawn to fire like moths,then so be it.. It's not a matter for the Fire Brigade,it's a matter for the police. And were it my car: I wouldn't be too bothered as car+fire=write off (And uh, car+fire+fire brigade=soggy write-off. woop.)
I understand where you are coming from - there is a lot of damage,and they do little to fix things up afterwards. My point(s):
- the community should be allowed build a bonfire. It's a tradition.
- adults, or some responsible people should take to supervising the damned thing
- if it's done by the community,it should be fixed by the community (Residents association!? After all, it is usually people from the same area 99% of the time)
- calling out an already over-worked fire brigade does little use- quite simply, they will call out-look at the fire-check that it's not posing a danger (To housing, telephone poles, or whatever) - and move on to the next callout.. and this is how they spend their night (Occasionally,being stoned when trying to put out a fire that may be a hazard). Meanwhile, the usual issues arise -and have to wait longer for an engine to call out..
Have you approached the people responsible for the bonfire? Attempted to put it out yourself? Hah!

entropi

Same here, there's been kids out collecting wood for a bonfire but the rain is sorta putting that idea off the menu.

However though, they ARE burning a Wickerman [ supposedly the first one to be burnt in Dublin for 1000 years ] so that should look nice

Rb

I've noticed a huge cut down on the number of bonfires this year and couldn't be happier about it. The less of them the better imo.
What's the point in having them anyway?

Karoma

Death Sentence wrote:

Same here, there's been kids out collecting wood for a bonfire but the rain is sorta putting that idea off the menu.

However though, they ARE burning a Wickerman [ supposedly the first one to be burnt in Dublin for 1000 years ] so that should look nice

the first in a 1000 years..a bit suss IMHO (*waits for newpaper headlines re: missing Garda tomorrow..*)

the_syco

Meh. Not helping in the bonfire building this year, nor did I do it last. I am usually the one to get it lighting, tho. Most people think a bit of paper will help it light:rolleyes: Mostly have to use a bit of petrol. I agree that alot of the kids who try to light it have no experience in fires, and thus get in harms way, but who could they ask? The gardai? Nay. A respected local resident? Nay. So they light it themselves.

Locally, once the fire is lit, the local "respected local resident" will come out, and once they're there, I can leave them to it. Can't leave before, as some one may do something stupid, but I usually come back later to see if the fire is still going.

Do I help clean it up? Nope. Usually by the time I wake up/come home from school/college/work the next day, its already being cleared.

Oh, and we use the same spot evey year, as its safe (away from the road and the nearest house), in a good place, and tbh, don't see the point of having more than one bonfire patch.

Dunno about this year, tho. As there are less people intrested in it, there may not be one... and the "respected local resident" will proberly ask me why there isn't one