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Morrissey: lyrical genius or moany oulfella?

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  • 27-10-2005 7:39pm
    #1
    judas101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭


    what do we think?


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    Karlusss
    Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Karlusss


    You fecker.

    Option a.


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    DerekD Goldfish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭DerekD Goldfish


    Both


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    MrJoeSoap
    Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    ^Both.

    One of the greatest lyricists of our time.

    Religions fall
    Children shelled ...children shelled ?
    That’s all very well,
    But would you please keep the noise down low ?


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    John
    Registered Users Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Definitely both. There's times when I think his lyrics can never be topped and other times when I wish he'd cheer up. Then there's times when he does both and I don't know what to think.


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    SprostonGreen
    Registered Users Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    "I know its over" is the only song that I think is a bit of a downer, great song all the same. Most of his lyrics I find amusing.


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    Morgans
    Registered Users Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Two icy-cold hands conducting the way
    It’s the eskimo blood in my veins
    Amid concrete and clay
    And general decay
    Nature must still find a way
    So ignore all the codes of the day
    Let your juvenile influences sway
    This way and that way (this way)
    This way and that way (this way)
    God, how sex implores you
    To let yourself lose yourself

    Southpaw grammer crossed the line into moany, the rest of the lyrics may contain gripes, but they are legitamite.


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    judas101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭judas101


    i love all the stuff he did with the smiths but i have to say, i think some of his best stuff is on you are the quarry.
    not forgetting songs like you're the one for me fatty and last of the international playboys.

    i find it very interesting how much some people despise and some people adore the man. he is truly a love him or hate him charachter it seems


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    dearheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭dearheart


    It's not like you can separate a from b here. The reason he's a legend is because while he's a fabulous lyricist, he has a distinguishable personality [even if that IS a moany one]. Which is criminally rare in his field of work [and especially as he's moany, pessimistic & highly sarcastic in contrast to the Scientologists he lives amongst].

    I didn't HATE 'You Are the Quarry' or anything, but I'd disagree if you told me it had some of his best work so far. I think he finds working easy, and it's easy for him to release work now and have it instantly praised. Ten years ago that was not the case [we mistakenly thought he was the BNP, long story] and he's making good use of his present popularity. That said, there were a few good-but-not-great pop tunes on the album & bejaysus isn't that what he's good for these days? What he's doing is widely believed to be GOOD ENOUGH, a belief supported by the fact that he altered the face of celebrity 20 yrs ago anyhow.... Why demand anything more from the guy?


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    spiderlegs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭spiderlegs


    But see, ya love Morrissey because he's moany-his songs are exactly what the average person moans about. And the fact that many more of his other songs are extremely witty and sarchastic just makes me (and many others) love him evenmore...:)


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    buzzerbuckley
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭buzzerbuckley


    Genius.


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    judas101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭judas101


    so what songs dont you like on you are the quarry n wats your fave mozza album?


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    Morgans
    Registered Users Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭Morgans


    lazy dykes
    america is not the world
    irish blood english heart
    first of the gang to die are the weakest IMO.

    Come back to Camden
    I have forgiven jesus
    Let Me Kiss You
    You KNow it could never last

    stand up to the best of his work, again IMO.


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    uma
    Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭uma


    best lyricist of all time. forget your dylans and co , he is the man.


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    Alana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Alana


    a bit of colum A, a bit of column B.

    Good stuff tho....sigh. Can't beat Christy doing a cover of America tho, classic.

    As for surpassing Dylan-c'mon now lads, he's good, but he's not that good. Dylan has written a load of tripe, but he has some fecking jems in their that Morrissey will not beat. Can you ever see Morrissey writting a decent "love song" (i hate that term)? Dylan is a whole different level to Morrissey imho. Don't get me wrong I love him and all, but Dylan is up there on his pedestal


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    John
    Registered Users Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    *John2 presents an interlude*

    I went to see Corpse Bride tonight and the bad guy in it looks a lot like Morrissey. I've tried to google for pictures of him but no dice.

    *resume thread*


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    rabbitinlights
    Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    The man is a Genius, and I would consider him to be up there with dylan, Although Dylan had more of a movement behind him (hippies) than Morrissey (grumpy people) :p


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    MrJoeSoap
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    Is there anyone who dislikes his lyrics? I don't think I know anyone who (regardless of what they make of the music) doesn't appreciate his lyrical gift.


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    Atrocity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Atrocity


    he is easily the best lyricist of all time, better than dylan.


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    dearheart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭dearheart


    Morrissey BETTER than Dylan? I never got that approach...

    Why does it have to be a competition? Can't they just be different?!


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    CiaranC
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    irish blood english heart
    first of the gang to die are the weakest IMO.
    These are probably the two best songs on the album, or near enough.


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    marwood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭marwood


    Far superior to Dylan I agree.

    As for love songs try these

    Is it really so strange
    ask
    First of the gang to die
    Please please please....
    my love life
    girlfriend in a coma
    back to the old house


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    MrJoeSoap
    Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    marwood wrote:
    Please please please....

    Great song, great lyrics.

    Check out the Muse cover if you like heavier stuff too.


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    micromegas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭micromegas


    He's spot-on 90% of the time.


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    noby
    Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭noby


    marwood wrote:
    Far superior to Dylan I agree.

    As for love songs try these

    Is it really so strange
    ask
    First of the gang to die
    Please please please....
    my love life
    girlfriend in a coma
    back to the old house
    Plus he writes about much more interesting subject matter than just straight forward love songs.
    Including:
    football hooligans,
    serial killers,
    vegetarianism,
    his own ex-fans,
    schools/education,
    tha fact that, er, some girls are bigger than others.


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    thehurricane
    Site Banned Posts: 44 ✭thehurricane


    the fact that alot think moz is better than bob lyrically maybe cos moz is english and maybe we can relate more to him.

    ah what do i know!


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    blu_sonic
    Registered Users Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭blu_sonic


    i love moz, i'm a true fan boy of his, i totally love zimmi too so its a tough one i think moz is more relevent to today and to my life, but to say he's better is a true toughie

    i think how could anybody possibly know how i feel is the stand out track on YATQ, to answer he is a moan but a genius moaner thats why he's great

    also songs on:
    abortion
    disability
    racism
    abiguity
    jealousy


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    buzzerbuckley
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭buzzerbuckley


    In the sky
    WE`ll keep the green flag flying high.............


    Quite correct sonic.

    Looks like Continuity Home Fram in the play offs. Sicken Kicker keeley and fat seery, then get rid of collins and away we go for next year........

    Liam Buckley........


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    #29
    hawkmoon269
    Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭hawkmoon269


    'Everyday is Like Sunday' is one of the finest songs ever written.


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    marwood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭marwood


    hawkmoon269 wrote:
    'Everyday is Like Sunday' is one of the finest songs ever written.

    Never a truer word spoken.


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