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Playing AKo in Fitz Double chance

  • 19-10-2005 5:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭


    Fitz Double chance (50 + 5 )

    17 ish players left blinds 300 / 600

    Hero 10.5k
    Villain 11 k = Avg stack at table 8 players

    Villain limps UTG
    Fold to Hero CO - 1 Holding AKo

    Previous orbit same player had also limped in early position I raised to 2.5k and he folded, so I felt the same raise would be called this time with a wide range of hands.
    Whats your play here and why ?


Comments

  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    I would raise to 2.5 again. Assuming he is a good player then if he comes over the top I fold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    I'd push, it will stop him reraising and pushing you off your hand. If he calls then there's only 2 hands you really fear and he could easily think you're at it and call with a weaker As or KQs or something. Or he could fold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Assuming hes a good player you must call his reraise all in based on the last hand.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Hector I presume you are responding to me and not the original question. I expect a good player not to limp with a hand that can't stand a raise based on my previous raise. The Snapper is assuming he will call with a larger range of hands because?....he is pissed with the previous raise? Makes no sense to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    musician wrote:
    Hector I presume you are responding to me and not the original question. I expect a good player not to limp with a hand that can't stand a raise based on my previous raise. The Snapper is assuming he will call with a larger range of hands because?....he is pissed with the previous raise? Makes no sense to me.

    Because you raised him last time his range here is wider than normal, he may have AQ and think hes trapping you.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Is this because he puts you on a steal based on one previous hand? I accept a range will be wider if you have been loose and agressive but we have one example. Surely thats not enough or am I missing something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    musician wrote:
    Is this because he puts you on a steal based on one previous hand? I accept a range will be wider if you have been loose and agressive but we have one example. Surely thats not enough or am I missing something.

    The second time you raise somebodies limp they will give you a lot less credit. Id say the limper folds here less than 90% of the time regardless of what cards he holds. Noone enjoys being raised!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,250 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    The second limp looks like a trap to me...the whole table have seen him limp and then fold to a raise,so it would be very bad play to do it again so soon after been push of a hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,222 ✭✭✭Davey Devil


    I've seen it countless times in The Fitz, bad players limping like a one legged Vietnam veteran. The blinds get bigger but they keep limping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭The Snapper


    Ok ! . I raise to 2.5k as before and I'm pretty sure I get called as suggested in OP.
    Folded to limper who eventualy calls after much thought.

    Pot = 5.9 k

    Flop As 4h Jd

    limper checks

    I Bet 4k leaving 4k behind ?

    Again he deliberates for ages and eventually flat calls.

    I now am pretty confident he is on a weaker ace.

    Pot 13.9k

    Turn (As 4h Jd) 10h

    limper checks and I push for last 4k ?

    Obviously he calls with A9 h and hits the flush on the end.

    The post is now flamed as thinly disguised bad beat. But that is'nt the point at all and I don't consider it a bad beat even though I do think he made bad plays on all streets.
    I am only concerned with my own play in this hand. So , some questions.

    Is my play flawed here.

    I have read recently various posts (2+2) and poker strategy articles talking about controlling pot size. Is pot size a factor in this hand and should I try to keep it smaller (maybe check the flop) given that an outdraw is terminal not damaging.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    I think you played the hand well. Pot size is an issue because you are miles ahead, so you would like to get a large amount of money into the pot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    You played it well


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