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Dragon Cam

jhegarty · 2005-10-19 09:10:19

I have heard that the new dragon cams allows view of sky programs in a non-sky box… any use one of these/know if its true ? For the record: I am talking about a fully paid sky subscription, just don’t want to use the sky dogeybox I am not talking about getting anything I am not fully paying for with sky…

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I have heard that the new dragon cams allows view of sky programs in a non-sky box… any use one of these/know if its true ?

For the record: I am talking about a fully paid sky subscription, just don’t want to use the sky dogeybox

I am not talking about getting anything I am not fully paying for with sky…

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#2 19-10-2005 9:33am

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Lots of reading here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=1124205

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#3 19-10-2005 11:34am

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The support of nds is with the new firmware update removed, you can set the old firmware and you can used it

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#4 19-10-2005 4:10pm

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Greenman wrote:

Lots of reading here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=1124205

link is gone ,

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#5 19-10-2005 5:32pm

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I beleive ther is no g'tee it will continue to work. Definately a "hobbyist" solution.

Search Google. Zaphod might know.

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#6 19-10-2005 7:36pm

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Nds will work on the old firmware with a original dragon I tried and is no problem at all, but the new firmware with nds support (sky) was removed because it was unstable, for other things, or just try also a dreambox they support also nds

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#7 20-10-2005 1:37pm

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whats a good dream box and are they a bitch to use?

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#8 20-10-2005 2:41pm

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yvry wrote:

Nds will work on the old firmware with a original dragon I tried and is no problem at all, but the new firmware with nds support (sky) was removed because it was unstable, for other things, or just try also a dreambox they support also nds

correct !! the Predator 3.22 version does not support NDS.
To stay it was unstable is not true in my case.Version 3.21 works perfect with my Sky card

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#9 20-10-2005 2:47pm

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if on a budget the 500s (no hdd) for 195 incl .del http://www.elektronikwelt.net/product_info.php?cPath=12_76&products_id=588 model will do fine. the 5620 (no hdd) has ci slots and costs about 260 incl. del (should get cheaper off other german sites) off hm-sat.de ,highly recommended.hm-sat also has 7000s ,about400 incl .del, model which you can add a hdd to.have one of these and its great.have my sly card working with it.can record onto your hdd.did not have a clue how to use the dreambox when i got it but now its no problem.there is loads of forums,guides for help.

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#10 20-10-2005 5:52pm

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Is there not a problem you need a digibox as well as the card does not get new "keys" and needs periodically re-activated in a Sky Digibox?

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#11 20-10-2005 10:31pm

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seano wrote:

correct !! the Predator 3.22 version does not support NDS.
To stay it was unstable is not true in my case.Version 3.21 works perfect with my Sky card

Where do you get the firmware updates these days for dragon cam?.. I used to go to http://www.dragonmodule.com/ but it is no longer working.

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#12 21-10-2005 8:51am

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mayto wrote:

if on a budget the 500s (no hdd) for 195 incl .del http://www.elektronikwelt.net/product_info.php?cPath=12_76&products_id=588 model will do fine. the 5620 (no hdd) has ci slots and costs about 260 incl. del (should get cheaper off other german sites) off hm-sat.de ,highly recommended.hm-sat also has 7000s ,about400 incl .del, model which you can add a hdd to.have one of these and its great.have my sly card working with it.can record onto your hdd.did not have a clue how to use the dreambox when i got it but now its no problem.there is loads of forums,guides for help.

cheers,

i have a tm 7700 and a humax 5100,just wondering do you have to update the dreambox every few days ?and are these babys user friendly?

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#13 21-10-2005 9:55am

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Yes. But I would recommend a Dreambox 500s receiver instead. No cams required.

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#14 21-10-2005 10:14am

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Butterbox wrote:

Yes. But I would recommend a Dreambox 500s receiver instead. No cams required.

no cams , just download up dates aye [possibly with a memory stick]?

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#15 21-10-2005 11:16am

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the dreambox 500 and 5620 do not have usb ports i think,so cannot use usb sticks. internal memory allows you to store software cam etc.there is a software cam which will update sly card each month,just leave sat on astra 2
when update is due.

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#16 21-10-2005 11:18am

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The box has flash memory. Can't use a USB stick on the 500s but you can on larger models. New 500s-pvr has a hard drive. Loading a non-official image will allow updates to be downloaded directly from internet. There is no need for updates if just using SKY card. The card WILL update in the dreambox so no need for digibox. If you have other dreamboxes in the house they can all share the one card (equals free multiroom). If box has a hard drive you can record channels as per SKY+.

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#17 21-10-2005 11:21am

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So for starting off would you recommend the 500 or should i look for an old 7000 on ebay?

[ i like the HD option , mainly only use my TM 7700 for footy / tps / art sport and movies on tps]

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#18 21-10-2005 11:29am

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As far as setting up both boxes are the same. The 7000s has more choice of images to pick from but the most popular is Gemini and is available for both. I have both boxes. The 500s is a beautiful trouble-free machine. I have had more problems with the 7000s, but it is fine now. A note about second-hand 7000s: There were problems with original models with tuner chips and overheating and you would not have a warranty. My 7000s went back twice under warranty. No problems with 500s. To start I would suggest a 500s. Get everything working (treat it like a hobby) Then if you get a 7000s you can share the card with the 500s.

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#19 21-10-2005 11:32am

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will do ,cheers.:)

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#20 21-10-2005 11:40am

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Forgot to mention, the 500s has only one card slot, the 7000s has two. The two slots are useful if you have a UK freesat card for ITV. C4 and C5. If however you have two dreamboxes you can share the slots on each.

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#21 21-10-2005 12:37pm

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SO basically I can have a dreambox 500 and then can get rid of my crappy sky box with the FTA card.
I will still have the same channels
BBB1 - 4
UTV's
Ch4
Ch5

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#22 21-10-2005 1:21pm

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i would not buy a dm 500s for the sake of sly ftv channels.the sly box ain't that bad.if you get a dreambox,you can get digitalb card (soccer and movies) for 111 euro incl. del,or you can get art card(nearly all prem matches) for 131 euro incl off this site
http://www.satellite-supplies.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_28 .both cards are for 6 months but good value for a premiership fan.they responded to my delivery question(which is 12 euro for reg. mail) within a few minutes,which ain't bad.

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#23 21-10-2005 6:53pm

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Its fine if you want one _ANYWAY_ for PVR and lots of other stuff. But possibly a bad investment if "just" for Sky card use, which could end anytime, even though a legitimate card is legitimately paid for.

Complain about Sky's monoplistic lack of issue a CAM to EU, TD, Consumer agency etc...

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