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Whats is the tax on rental income?

  • 15-10-2005 12:22AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35


    Hi guys can some one give me a percentage value for the rental tax income in ireland? is tax charged at 20% or is it charged as 42%?thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,228 ✭✭✭Scruff


    are you talking about being an owner occupier or buy to rent?

    If its buy to rent its (from [linkd=askaboutmoney]http://www.askaboutmoney.com/guide/ch14.htm[/linkd])

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    INCREASES THE RISK
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You will pay income tax on your rental income after mortgage interest and expenses at your top rate - 20% or 42%.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭The Troll


    It depends how much you are earning from your day job. if you break the 20% threshold in your normal job then you'll pay tax on the rental income at 42%. if not you'll pay 20%. If you don't but your rental income puts you through the threshold then you pay 20% and 42%(hope that isn't too confusing) - basiclaly you pay 20% on everything under the threshold and 42% on everything over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 lokoman


    hi there what is the 20% threshold in euros. is it about 30000 per annum?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭CCOVICH


    It's €29,400 for a single person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭ck1


    Don't forget you also pay PRSI on taxable rent at 5%


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭PJG


    Is all the rent taxable or is it the balance between the rent less the mortage and expenses ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    PJG wrote:
    Is all the rent taxable or is it the balance between the rent less the mortage and expenses ?
    The profit is taxable not the full rent. However, only the interest part of your mortgage repayment can be claimed as an expense, not the capital part.

    CHeck the FAQ's in the Askaboutmoney.com Property INvestment Forum for more details.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭PJG


    rainyday, thanks for the info and the link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 beanie2012


    we are renting property for €950 per month, and one of us is on the higher bracket tax, how much will we owe? also is charitable donations taken off the tax bill?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Liam D Ferguson


    beanie2012 wrote: »
    we are renting property for €950 per month, and one of us is on the higher bracket tax, how much will we owe? also is charitable donations taken off the tax bill?

    Do you mean that own a property and someone is renting it from you for €950 per month?

    Rental income, less allowable deductions, is taxable as if it's additional income. See http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/leaflets/it70.html

    Donations to registered charities are tax-deductible from your income.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 beanie2012


    sorry should have been more specific, yes we own a second property, which we have rented out, and just concerned of the pending tax bill.

    can the charitable donations tax be claimed back for three year period? have only just discovered that was possible.
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Rental profits are simply added to any other income and the whole lot is taxed as normal, more or less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 ✭✭✭✭Geuze




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 beanie2012


    thanks for that..will have to study it..:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,750 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    beanie2012 wrote: »
    can the charitable donations tax be claimed back for three year period? have only just discovered that was possible.
    :)

    You can only claim tax relief on charitable donations to a charity in excess of €250 if you are self employed. Otherwise you can't claim it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Liam D Ferguson


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    You can only claim tax relief on charitable donations to a charity in excess of €250 if you are self employed. Otherwise you can't claim it.

    Yes - I should have included that - if you're a PAYE employee, the charity can claim the relief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 beanie2012


    well I am not self employed, however as we own a second property, we were told the charities we subscribe to, are unable to claim the tax back, on which I am disappointed. we were told that WE can claim when submitting are tax forms, so now I am really confused...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    beanie2012 wrote: »
    well I am not self employed, however as we own a second property, we were told the charities we subscribe to, are unable to claim the tax back, on which I am disappointed. we were told that WE can claim when submitting are tax forms, so now I am really confused...

    I think the cause of confusion here is the use of the term "self employed" instead of "chargeable person"...

    A Chargeable person for practical purposes is anyone who files (or is obliged to file) a self-assessment tax return. The definition is here if you want more detail: http://www.revenue.ie/en/practitioner/tax-briefing/archive/62/tb05.htm

    As long as you registered as due to file a Form11 for a particular tax year Revenues systems won't allow the charities to claim the relief on your subscriptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Liam D Ferguson


    I think the cause of confusion here is the use of the term "self employed" instead of "chargeable person"...

    A Chargeable person for practical purposes is anyone who files (or is obliged to file) a self-assessment tax return. The definition is here if you want more detail: http://www.revenue.ie/en/practitioner/tax-briefing/archive/62/tb05.htm

    As long as you registered as due to file a Form11 for a particular tax year Revenues systems won't allow the charities to claim the relief on your subscriptions.

    I wonder does that mean that if, because beanie2012 seems to be falling into the category of self-assessed due to the rental income, they can therefore claim the tax relief on charitable donations themselves, like a self-employed person.


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